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Post by respect77 on Nov 23, 2021 10:09:34 GMT
I don't disagree that the Estate sucks and so much more could be done for MJ's legacy. I criticize them myself. I just don't think it is good to let our fan experience to be determined by that or ruined by a focus on negative things. There are certain negativities we can't avoid (like discussing LN from time to time, esp. in 2019), but there's a lot where we, as individuals, can choose our focus IMO. And I know I don't want to choose to focus on things that would make being a fan a source of frustration to me rather than the fun art/entertainment is meant to be.
And BTW, this doesn't mean we should stop pressuring the Estate to do better, a lot better, but that doesn't mean I will let their crappiness to ruin my fan experience and feel that it sucks to be an MJ fan just because, for example, we don't get any "new" material like Prince fans do etc.
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Post by aazzaabb on Nov 23, 2021 11:26:40 GMT
This is going to be a bit of soap box material and not even about Taj, but a reaction to the above posts, so please deal with me. I think whether someone chooses to always harp on what's negative in being an MJ fan is inevitably going to feel frustrated and feel that being an MJ fan sucks. Of course, there are hardships and genuine things to be frustrated over (and probably a lot more than in any other fandom), but I feel the "doom and gloom" mood some fans drive themselves into is often self inflicted. I mean, yeah LN and the allegations is a massive trauma for all of us. We need to keep addressing it from time to time. Yes, I too envy some of the projects other Estates are doing for their artist and the general care and love they handle their artist's work, while I too voice my frustration about the Estate not really caring about MJ's. But overall my experience of being an MJ fan isn't that it sucks. I don't even consider myself a particularly optimistic/"think positive" type of person, but I think there are a lot of things to be happy about as an MJ fan. The way his legacy keeps up despite of everything. Sure it would be great to hear unreleased material but that's never something that actually keeps up an artist's legacy. It's the work that they left behind while they were alive that does that. And MJ is doing extremely well in that. Maybe it's a double edge sword because that's what makes the Estate too comfortable in doing nothing as well, while other Estates need to work their ass off to even get their artist charting sometimes. I can understand if you are bored with listening to the same old MJ material and want something new, but to be honest while the outtakes on Bad 25 are fun and that was arguably a good project, something in the direction that hard core fans would want, but I still listen to the original Bad tracks more. My point is with that, again, that whatever gets released posthumously, at the end of the day it's the original material that defines an artist's legacy and that we'll keep coming back to. And I'm content with that legacy. I don't feel empty about it just because we don't get posthumous material. And I don't feel like I need to be constantly kept excited with "new" things to have fun as an MJ fan. I accepted the fact that MJ is dead and there won't be anything REALLY new from him any more. The release of unreleased material that an artist left behind can certainly be lots of fun and keep the hard core fandom entertained. And don't get me wrong, I certainly hope we will get some more in that regard. But my fun in being an MJ fan isn't really tied to that. And my bigger point is a bit philosophical, I guess: a lot of how we feel is decided in our own head. Despite certain hardships I personally don't feel that being an MJ fan sucks. Aimed at me no doubt, and yes I’ll take on bored what your saying. The doom and gloom I guess comes from having nothing current going on that I enjoy regarding MJ and at the same time I’m hugely excited for what’s going on regarding other artists who were around way before MJ and still manage to give us brand new experiences and their careers -although posthumous- are bigger than ever. I just feel the older I get the less I have in common with today’s MJ activity. With MJ it feels a bit watered down albeit some success from the likes of Dangerous. I do get it though, and going around in a constant circle isn’t going to achieve anything other than make myself miserable. But meh, a post on the official MJ Site saying something along the lines of “this day 30 years ago MJ performed in Japan” just leaves me feeling a bit empty and disconnected. And with Taj I guess that was something I was at least trying to focus some positivity and optimism on. When I say ‘I’m past caring’ I actually just mean I’m going to put my expectations in check and be realistic. There will not be anything of Beatle level output from MJs estate and you know that’s fine. Fair enough. It is what it is. You make an interesting point about unreleased material. I get you completely on the Bad25 tracks. I’ll also lean more towards listening to the actual album itself although Bad25 was a great release and broke up the year and gave us something to enjoy and look forward to. It was something new to chat about and get a little excited. The thing is, I even love Thriller25 for the amazing memories it’s given me. Obviously though MJ was alive and there was a feeling of optimism and great possibilities ahead. There was a bit of buzz in the air. It even drove some of the older longtime fans back online. To be clear; I love being an MJ fan. Believe it or not the reason why I get so argumentative and doom and gloom is because of how much I do love MJ, not because I’m a negative person. I’m actually quite the opposite to how I might come across at times. In fact I get more frustrated with myself than fans. If I’m ranting on here it’s probably more ranting with myself than anyone else. Anyways, to myself and for the umpteenth time; it is what it is Aaron. Except the things you cannot change and all the hoping, whinging, bitching in the world isn’t going to change anything.
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Post by aazzaabb on Nov 23, 2021 11:51:56 GMT
Honestly mate, I’m past caring. And I don’t mean that in a snide way towards you or anyone here. MJ will probably never be completely exonerated in the eyes of the public in our lifetime and I’ve just got to except that. It ain’t happening any time soon and I’m probably kidding myself if I think Taj is going to change anything. MJ’s estate will never be what many of us would like it to be and again I’ve just got to except things as they are. I think what grates on me most is that by being a fan I’m forced to face a situation and estate I have nothing in common with. No shared goals. The new musical in New York I just couldn’t give a flying fuck about. It means nothing to me. A red vinyl of an album I own 5, 6 different ways is also meaningless to me. I know I know….. I should be celebrating what MJ left us and just be grateful at all I got to experience the great years, and anything extra is a bonus etc. And I do. But I’ve just got to let go of this illusion I get caught up in. No Victory, Bad or Dangerous tour on film. No short films remastered in 4K. No Elvis/Beatles/Prince type box sets ever coming. Nothing. Zero. Zilch. Nada. Nope. Not happening. Not possible. But MJ is still thriving despite all. So just be happy. Bored? I don’t understand how you can be bored?? With all he left us?!! His numbers are rising. He’s being played on the radio. But there’s just a big fat emptiness that goes with a part of this since LN. Leaving Neverland 2 will probably be due soon. And irrelevant of facts or actual sense the media will do their thing of course. The estate will say nothing. Do nothing. Think nothing and continue nothing. Haha, trust me I'm right there with you with your frustration. It is crappy being an MJ fan today. That's not a slight on Michael. That's just what it is. It is boring. You can only discuss the same things so many times. Maybe it's ok for younger fans listening to Thriller for the 50th time, but I've heard that albums thousands of times. I've heard all of his albums thousands of times. I love them, but I don't listen to them all that often anymore. Unfortunately there is nothing we can do. Michael's name will only be cleared if Jordan comes forward and says that he lied. Nobody is interested in doing investigative work on the cases other than fans. Fans will never be taken seriously because of perceived bias. We wish it was different, but nothing seems like it's going to change. The estate will continue to suck. Michael's life's work will continue to collect dust in a vault or be lost in the ether. It sucks. Especially for longtime fans. No doubt about it. Thanks dude. Always appreciate when you post as I know you’re coming from a similar place as myself. I think at this point we’ve probably just got to be resigned to where we currently are. I’ve put perspective on this now and will attempt to hold myself accountable when I find myself slipping into the “what ifs”. I get a thrill out of seeing these older generations ecstatic for The Beatles and Elvis, and then there’s MJ….. don’t Aaron. You’re slipping….. To be fair, all generations are ecstatic for MJ.
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Post by aazzaabb on Nov 23, 2021 12:06:09 GMT
This is going to be a bit of soap box material and not even about Taj, but a reaction to the above posts, so please deal with me. I think whether someone chooses to always harp on what's negative in being an MJ fan is inevitably going to feel frustrated and feel that being an MJ fan sucks. Of course, there are hardships and genuine things to be frustrated over (and probably a lot more than in any other fandom), but I feel the "doom and gloom" mood some fans drive themselves into is often self inflicted. I mean, yeah LN and the allegations is a massive trauma for all of us. We need to keep addressing it from time to time. Yes, I too envy some of the projects other Estates are doing for their artist and the general care and love they handle their artist's work, while I too voice my frustration about the Estate not really caring about MJ's. But overall my experience of being an MJ fan isn't that it sucks. I don't even consider myself a particularly optimistic/"think positive" type of person, but I think there are a lot of things to be happy about as an MJ fan. The way his legacy keeps up despite of everything. Sure it would be great to hear unreleased material but that's never something that actually keeps up an artist's legacy. It's the work that they left behind while they were alive that does that. And MJ is doing extremely well in that. Maybe it's a double edge sword because that's what makes the Estate too comfortable in doing nothing as well, while other Estates need to work their ass off to even get their artist charting sometimes. I can understand if you are bored with listening to the same old MJ material and want something new, but to be honest while the outtakes on Bad 25 are fun and that was arguably a good project, something in the direction that hard core fans would want, but I still listen to the original Bad tracks more. My point is with that, again, that whatever gets released posthumously, at the end of the day it's the original material that defines an artist's legacy and that we'll keep coming back to. And I'm content with that legacy. I don't feel empty about it just because we don't get posthumous material. And I don't feel like I need to be constantly kept excited with "new" things to have fun as an MJ fan. I accepted the fact that MJ is dead and there won't be anything REALLY new from him any more. The release of unreleased material that an artist left behind can certainly be lots of fun and keep the hard core fandom entertained. And don't get me wrong, I certainly hope we will get some more in that regard. But my fun in being an MJ fan isn't really tied to that. And my bigger point is a bit philosophical, I guess: a lot of how we feel is decided in our own head. Despite certain hardships I personally don't feel that being an MJ fan sucks. Well said. I think fans can also be a little short sighted. At the end of the day, there's only a finite amount of material left to play with. If they'd followed Xscape up in 2016 with a third posthumous album and released Dangerous 25 and Invincible 20 with second discs of bonus tracks, what would even be left at this point? MJ was not Prince in that regard. Most of us are still pretty young, under 50 I would say. I might start bitching about the lack of posthumous material if I'm grave-dodging and time is a matter of urgency, but for now, I'm happy to wait. I suppose where I’m coming from, or let me change that to where I WAS coming from in that regard is that, for example we know there’s studio footage of MJ during the recording sessions for Invincible. We hear leaks of alternative takes of Keep The Faith, Earth Song etc and as a fan you begin to imagine and become hopeful with the possibilities. Regarding the grave dodging, I’ve lost several friends in the past few years all under the age of 40 or just a little over it, and could have very well also lost a friend who’s not very old and a massive MJ fan. So I’m always quite aware of my own mortality and how quickly it could all change and simply disappear. But I do take on board the broader point you’re making. Hopefully we’ll see something at some point even if it’s a little down the line.
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Post by TonyR on Nov 23, 2021 12:35:18 GMT
Yeah, I agree with you all!
To be honest, from June 25th 2009 - I fully expected that to be it. I thought Invincible / One More Chance / T25 were the last ever MJ tunes I was going to hear (so it's not as if he left us on a high). Everything since then has been a bonus.
Have said this ad nauseam, but Bad25 I thought was a fantastic release. Virtually a whole album of new songs (albeit ones I don't care for very much) and FINALLY a Bad concert showing him at the peak of his powers (yes it should have been in better quality, but I watch MJ for the performance, power & passion - not the pixels).
And Xscape, you know I love & rate the songs on that better than most of Invincible. And again, I thought quality release - especially the deluxe version which gave us both the untouched & the contemporised versions - keeping both camps happy.
For me, if I never heard a 'new' MJ track again, I'd be cool with it. I don't really want snippets, a thousand alternate versions etc...as such.
What I want is frustrating as it's the 'low hanging fruit' that would be easy to do.
Ghosts DVD/HQ release Jacksons Live Short Films - HQ (inc Making of Thriller) The remixes & B side / Ultimate Collection on Spotify (I'd love to be able to easily add Extended Bad False Fade, Smooth Criminal, TDCAU remixes to playlists without the faff of it now)
Unlike some of you, I still happily play his songs & albums virtually every day (either by choice listening to the album or because so many of his songs are on playlists). So I've always felt that he's never been away really.
So yeah, 50/50 - the things I list above would be great, and if there's nearly complete songs in there, I'd love to hear...but I've enough to keep me happy from when he was alive for now.
P.S. again like I've said before, it's not as if we have things every year while he was alive!
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Nov 23, 2021 14:34:05 GMT
I personally have totally stopped bothering or expecting mj related releases. Even if they do come I doubt they'll be respectful to MJ and that's what I've come to expect from the estate. So I don't really think about whether there is going to be anything new anymore.
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Post by Michaels Lover on Nov 23, 2021 22:44:07 GMT
I couldn't care less about those posthumus projects from the estate, honestly. the only one I've ever cared about was the Wembley concert on dvd. I've never even heard Xscape album for example. I'm more than happy with what he left us, and if we'll never get to hear a new song/album again, it doesn't bother me one bit. Because I already got what's important, which is what he left us while he was alive. I will never get tired of listening to that, no matter how many times I've heard it, and I listen to and watch him every single day. I watch the same concerts over and over, but I never get tired of it. I can't get enough! The magic is still as strong as it was when I was a teenager
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Post by HIStoric on Nov 23, 2021 22:52:13 GMT
Yeah, I think a lot of you have done well capturing how I feel. I think being a Michael Jackson fan in 2021 is definitely a rollercoaster.
The lack of Estate releases is something I really find frustrating, especially when I see what comes from other artists (I can't tell you how many times I've seen something and been like "Man, I wish this was done for MJ" - because it's a lot). I've harped on about it before though and many of you have already succinctly summarised my thoughts here already, so I won't repeat much. I also don't mean to downplay it because as disappointing as that may be, it feels like nothing compared to seeing Michael's name continuously dragged through the dirt (which did actually play a part in stopping some of the Estate releases in 2019 apparently).
That's where I think the real negative aspect of being a Michael Jackson fan comes from, as it cast a huge shadow over his legacy whether we like it or not. Even though he still gets a lot of attention from the public, a huge proportion of people out there believe he is a serial child abuser, be it from his quotes in Living with MJ, or after watching Leaving Neverland or the fact he paid the Chandlers or whatever other thing. It is just really sad at times. I can't lie, sometimes when I'm out and about and I'm wearing a Michael Jackson shirt, I still get self conscious. I wonder if people look at me and think I'm happily endorsing some child molester, or I'm just some weird fanatic or something. It's the fact that whenever M) is brought up around someone I'm not sure of, you're sometimes on edge waiting for that comment. I don't really get that with other artists, and after Leaving Neverland it's actually something I've come to really appreciate about for those other artists since I used to take it for granted. Especially when I feel there was a lot of "healing' in that respect between 2009 and early 2019 for MJ's name.
But I think like Respect says, it's important to try and not drive that home everyday. What Michael Jackson has left behind for this world is nothing short of incredible. The fact his commercial peak was in the 1980s yet he's still doing the numbers he does? That's amazing, It's obvious that his music is still clearly loved and enjoyed by the public whenever you look at his YouTube or Spotify numbers. His adult solo catalogue might not be as populated as some other artists, but his work is generally very high quality and has aged incredibly well. Do you guys know how many times I heard Somebody's Watching Me and Thriller in the weeks surrounding Halloween on TikTok this year? Because frankly it was a lot. And then every once in a blue moon when the Estate actually fucking does something right? Those weeks leading up to Bad 25 went veerry slowly for me, I can't tell you how many times I played Al Capone on loop when I finally got my hands on it. And Xscape? With the success of LNFSG and seeing advertising for it not just in stores but out in public? Man, it was the closest I ever came to an actual MJ album release for me, and it was just incredible. It felt like he was here kind of. I really enjoyed many of the tracks on there too and still play them to this day.
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Post by aazzaabb on Nov 23, 2021 23:01:26 GMT
Yeah, I think a lot of you have done well capturing how I feel. I think being a Michael Jackson fan in 2021 is definitely a rollercoaster. The lack of Estate releases is something I really find frustrating, especially when I see what comes from other artists (I can't tell you how many times I've seen something and been like "Man, I wish this was done for MJ" - because it's a lot). I've harped on about it before though and many of you have already succinctly summarised my thoughts here already. So not to downplay that because as disappointing as that may be, it feels like nothing compared to seeing Michael's name continuously dragged through the dirt (which did actually play a part in stopping some of the Estate releases in 2019 apparently). That's where I think the real negative aspect of being a Michael Jackson fan comes from, as it cast a huge shadow over his legacy whether we like it or not. Even though he still gets a lot of attention from the public, a huge proportion of people out there believe he is a serial child abuser, be it from his quotes in Living with MJ, or after watching Leaving Neverland or the fact he paid the Chandlers or whatever other thing. it feels It is just really sad at times. I can't lie, sometimes when I'm out and about and I'm wearing a Michael Jackson shirt, I still get self conscious. I wonder if people look at me and think I'm happily endorsing some child molester, or I'm just some weird fanatic or something. It's the fact that whenever M) is brought up around someone I'm not sure of, you're sometimes on edge waiting for that comment. I don't really get that with other artists, and after Leaving Neverland it's actually something I've come to really appreciate about for those other artists since I used to take it for granted. Especially when I feel there was a lot of "healing' in that respect between 2009 and early 2019 for MJ's name. But I think like Respect says, it's important to try and not drive that home everyday. What Michael Jackson has left behind for this world is nothing short of incredible. The fact his commercial peak was in the 1980s yet he's still doing the numbers he does? That's amazing, It's obvious that his music is still clearly loved and enjoyed by the public whenever you look at his YouTube or Spotify numbers. His adult solo catalogue might not be as populated as some other artists, but his work is generally very high quality and has aged incredibly well. Do you guys know how many times I heard Somebody's Watching Me and Thriller in the weeks surrounding Halloween on TikTok this year? Because frankly it was a lot. And then every once in a blue moon when the Estate actually fucking does something right? Those weeks leading up to Bad 25 went veerry slowly for me, I can't tell you how many times I played Al Capone on loop when I finally got my hands on it. And Xscape? With the success of LNFSG and seeing advertising for it not just in stores but out in public? Man, it was the closest I ever came to an actual MJ album release for me, and it was just incredible. It felt like he was here kind of. I really enjoyed many of the tracks on there too and still play them to this day. I can relate to every single thing you say here.
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Post by aazzaabb on Nov 23, 2021 23:19:48 GMT
I couldn't care less about those posthumus projects from the estate, honestly. the only one I've ever cared about was the Wembley concert on dvd. I've never even heard Xscape album for example. I'm more than happy with what he left us, and if we'll never get to hear a new song/album again, it doesn't bother me one bit. Because I already got what's important, which is what he left us while he was alive. I will never get tired of listening to that, no matter how many times I've heard it, and I listen to and watch him every single day. I watch the same concerts over and over, but I never get tired of it. I can't get enough! The magic is still as strong as it was when I was a teenager Why have you not heard Xscape? Have you heard the Michael album? Some stunning tracks across both.
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Post by Michaels Lover on Nov 23, 2021 23:28:38 GMT
I couldn't care less about those posthumus projects from the estate, honestly. the only one I've ever cared about was the Wembley concert on dvd. I've never even heard Xscape album for example. I'm more than happy with what he left us, and if we'll never get to hear a new song/album again, it doesn't bother me one bit. Because I already got what's important, which is what he left us while he was alive. I will never get tired of listening to that, no matter how many times I've heard it, and I listen to and watch him every single day. I watch the same concerts over and over, but I never get tired of it. I can't get enough! The magic is still as strong as it was when I was a teenager Why have you not heard Xscape? Have you heard the Michael album? Some stunning tracks across both. Yeah, I heard the Michael album a couple of times back when it came out because of the controversy. So I had to hear those songs for myself...that was the only reason I listened to it...I've not heard the Bad 25 album either....because I don't care about "new" songs. Like I said, it's what he left us while he was alive that matters to me, and I'm just not interested in whatever new songs or albums they release
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Post by WildStyle on Nov 24, 2021 0:21:15 GMT
Why have you not heard Xscape? Have you heard the Michael album? Some stunning tracks across both. Yeah, I heard the Michael album a couple of times back when it came out because of the controversy. So I had to hear those songs for myself...that was the only reason I listened to it...I've not heard the Bad 25 album either....because I don't care about "new" songs. Like I said, it's what he left us while he was alive that matters to me, and I'm just not interested in whatever new songs or albums they release Well, I recommend you give them a shot. They are Michael Jackson songs (well other than the 3 Jason Malachi songs) and they're pretty damn good. If you're a Michael Jackson fan, you're going to like them. I promise.
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Post by aazzaabb on Nov 24, 2021 0:23:08 GMT
Why have you not heard Xscape? Have you heard the Michael album? Some stunning tracks across both. Yeah, I heard the Michael album a couple of times back when it came out because of the controversy. So I had to hear those songs for myself...that was the only reason I listened to it...I've not heard the Bad 25 album either....because I don't care about "new" songs. Like I said, it's what he left us while he was alive that matters to me, and I'm just not interested in whatever new songs or albums they release But they’re old songs really. I mean Al Capone evolved into Smooth Criminal. Much To Soon is absolutely stunning. The original Escape is well worth a listen. You’re not even curious?
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Post by TonyR on Nov 24, 2021 9:14:41 GMT
Yeah, I think a lot of you have done well capturing how I feel. I think being a Michael Jackson fan in 2021 is definitely a rollercoaster. The lack of Estate releases is something I really find frustrating, especially when I see what comes from other artists (I can't tell you how many times I've seen something and been like "Man, I wish this was done for MJ" - because it's a lot). I've harped on about it before though and many of you have already succinctly summarised my thoughts here already, so I won't repeat much. I also don't mean to downplay it because as disappointing as that may be, it feels like nothing compared to seeing Michael's name continuously dragged through the dirt (which did actually play a part in stopping some of the Estate releases in 2019 apparently). That's where I think the real negative aspect of being a Michael Jackson fan comes from, as it cast a huge shadow over his legacy whether we like it or not. Even though he still gets a lot of attention from the public, a huge proportion of people out there believe he is a serial child abuser, be it from his quotes in Living with MJ, or after watching Leaving Neverland or the fact he paid the Chandlers or whatever other thing. It is just really sad at times. I can't lie, sometimes when I'm out and about and I'm wearing a Michael Jackson shirt, I still get self conscious. I wonder if people look at me and think I'm happily endorsing some child molester, or I'm just some weird fanatic or something. It's the fact that whenever M) is brought up around someone I'm not sure of, you're sometimes on edge waiting for that comment. I don't really get that with other artists, and after Leaving Neverland it's actually something I've come to really appreciate about for those other artists since I used to take it for granted. Especially when I feel there was a lot of "healing' in that respect between 2009 and early 2019 for MJ's name. But I think like Respect says, it's important to try and not drive that home everyday. What Michael Jackson has left behind for this world is nothing short of incredible. The fact his commercial peak was in the 1980s yet he's still doing the numbers he does? That's amazing, It's obvious that his music is still clearly loved and enjoyed by the public whenever you look at his YouTube or Spotify numbers. His adult solo catalogue might not be as populated as some other artists, but his work is generally very high quality and has aged incredibly well. Do you guys know how many times I heard Somebody's Watching Me and Thriller in the weeks surrounding Halloween on TikTok this year? Because frankly it was a lot. And then every once in a blue moon when the Estate actually fucking does something right? Those weeks leading up to Bad 25 went veerry slowly for me, I can't tell you how many times I played Al Capone on loop when I finally got my hands on it. And Xscape? With the success of LNFSG and seeing advertising for it not just in stores but out in public? Man, it was the closest I ever came to an actual MJ album release for me, and it was just incredible. It felt like he was here kind of. I really enjoyed many of the tracks on there too and still play them to this day. I think LN is a really good point to bring up. And not to make excuses for the estate, but it's pretty hard to focus on releases during such a negative time for the artist in question. I admit, if I was an exec there, I'd be thinking 'let's choose our moment here & wait for this to die down'. Admittedly, this then means you miss important album anniversaries like D30 or I20 but, every 5 years there's a notable anniversary that would have better timing. LN also means that I'm less bothered about new releases. If I had one wish as an MJ fan (apart from him still being with us obviously), it wouldn't be for new material etc...that pales into comparison against just wishing his name didn't have so many negative connotations. I know it's not an either/or choice but in terms of priority.
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Post by respect77 on Nov 24, 2021 12:44:37 GMT
I admit, if I was an exec there, I'd be thinking 'let's choose our moment here & wait for this to die down'. Admittedly, this then means you miss important album anniversaries like D30 or I20 but, every 5 years there's a notable anniversary that would have better timing. Yes, but I think they could still do projects that are important, but don't attract much media attention, therefore an excuse to bring up the allegations during a time of controversy. For example, the HD upgrading of his videos on YouTube. It's very frustrating that those masterpieces like Thriller and Smooth Criminal appear in such a low quality when you play his videos on TV. And seeing how now every last 80s one hit wonder gets their video upgraded in HD while you still have MJ's in 480p... That the Estate doesn't do anything there really has no excuse IMO. This is just pure laziness or that they don't care (then I don't know why they are there paying themselves high salaries if even this minimal effort that's a no-brainer isn't getting done).
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