|
Post by NatureCriminal7896 on Sept 1, 2022 2:07:18 GMT
I'm not gonna lie. this doc is long overdue BUT let's not be harsh on Taj. none of us know this man and Michael was his uncle. we just fans and nothing more.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2022 5:34:51 GMT
I'm not gonna lie. this doc is long overdue BUT let's not be harsh on Taj. none of us know this man and Michael was his uncle. we just fans and nothing more. To be fair, now is exactly the time to be harsh on Taj.
|
|
|
Post by respect77 on Sept 1, 2022 9:18:17 GMT
we just fans and nothing more. That would only be true if he hadn't asked fans to donate to him. Because he did we are not "just fans" in this project but people who put their money into it. And these people have every right to ask questions about how their money is being spent.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2022 9:51:11 GMT
we just fans and nothing more. That would only be true if he hadn't asked fans to donate to him. Because he did we are not "just fans" in this project but people who put their money into it. And these people have every right to ask questions about how their money is being spent. I'm not saying he has been fraudulent at all (just out of his depth), but I'm assuming GoFundMe has some sort of fraud-report function if there are any suspicions? I think the longer Taj sits on this the more likely he will start seeing fans contact GoFundMe with their comments. Hopefully it would never come to that, but if it keeps going the way it's going he's going to have to address the delays properly.
|
|
|
Post by DirtyD on Sept 1, 2022 9:56:33 GMT
I'm not gonna lie. this doc is long overdue BUT let's not be harsh on Taj. none of us know this man and Michael was his uncle. we just fans and nothing more. Seeing as itβs the βjust fansβ money thatβs going into the project, I think they have every right to question what their money is being used for.
|
|
|
Post by NatureCriminal7896 on Sept 1, 2022 10:30:27 GMT
π€¦ββοΈπ€¦ββοΈπ€¦ββοΈ πππ πππ what mean that is we are just fans when it comes to relations to Michael and Taj. we don't know none of them personally. i feel some fans think they know Michael and Taj personally when we don't.
we are just fans at the end of the day.
as for the money yes i understand that part i'm talking about how fans obsess them like they were born in the Jacksons family when they're not.
Michael and Taj aren't our brother, nephew, uncle, dad, grandfather etc we are just fans.
they see us and probably forget about us after 5 mins. like some fans think Michael and Taj knew them when reality we are nothing but another chart data and money to them.
Michael and Taj love their fans but it's reality.
by any means i hope the doc goes well.
|
|
|
Post by pg13 on Sept 1, 2022 11:48:49 GMT
π€¦ββοΈπ€¦ββοΈπ€¦ββοΈ πππ πππ what mean that is we are just fans when it comes to relations to Michael and Taj. we don't know none of them personally. i feel some fans think they know Michael and Taj personally when we don't. we are just fans at the end of the day. as for the money yes i understand that part i'm talking about how fans obsess them like they were born in the Jacksons family when they're not. Michael and Taj aren't our brother, nephew, uncle, dad, grandfather etc we are just fans. they see us and probably forget about us after 5 mins. like some fans think Michael and Taj knew them when reality we are nothing but another chart data and money to them. Michael and Taj love their fans but it's reality. by any means i hope the doc goes well. Fans not being related to the Jacksons is completely irrelevant here. All of them depend on the fans for their support in the past, present and future, including Michael. So, the views of fans will have to be taken into account otherwise they reserve the right to withdraw that support. Taj is running a risk here. He might well find fan support is not what it could be eventually and then where will he be?! It's not a good idea for him to take the support of MJ fans for granted. After all, we're Michael Jackson fans. Not Taj or 3T fans.
|
|
|
Post by DirtyD on Sept 1, 2022 12:42:49 GMT
π€¦ββοΈπ€¦ββοΈπ€¦ββοΈ πππ πππ what mean that is we are just fans when it comes to relations to Michael and Taj. we don't know none of them personally. i feel some fans think they know Michael and Taj personally when we don't. we are just fans at the end of the day. as for the money yes i understand that part i'm talking about how fans obsess them like they were born in the Jacksons family when they're not. Michael and Taj aren't our brother, nephew, uncle, dad, grandfather etc we are just fans. they see us and probably forget about us after 5 mins. like some fans think Michael and Taj knew them when reality we are nothing but another chart data and money to them. Michael and Taj love their fans but it's reality. by any means i hope the doc goes well. This has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of this thread. Whether the fans know them personally or not, itβs still their money involved in making the docu and if nothing tangible comes of it, itβs their right to question that. You keep trying to create an issue where there isnβt one. Stick to the topic at hand.
|
|
|
Post by WildStyle on Sept 1, 2022 14:01:58 GMT
we just fans and nothing more. That would only be true if he hadn't asked fans to donate to him. Because he did we are not "just fans" in this project but people who put their money into it. And these people have every right to ask questions about how their money is being spent. Not only that, but unbeknownst to you, you're apparently supposed to be working on the thing π
|
|
|
Post by SoCav on Sept 1, 2022 17:47:12 GMT
I just don't understand why he wouldn't simply tweet that the promised announcement coinciding with MJ's birthday was delayed. Instead he's tweeting about negative MJ documentaries in Anglo countries.
It's not a good look and I get the sense that sympathy for him is starting to wear thin. It's one thing to be in over your head and struggling to get the project together. Not even bothering to stick to very basic promises and refusing to respond to donors asking for clarification (while continuing to actively tweet about other things) honestly just comes across as condescending... I don't think it's intended that way, but it just shows again that he just does not seem up to the task here.
And let's be honest, if he hadn't been MJ's cousin but a regular filmmaker, people would have been up in arms about the lack of progress and lack of communication. He's been given a lot of extra leeway due to his connection to Michael and the fact that people are rooting for him.
|
|
|
Post by pg13 on Sept 1, 2022 18:58:47 GMT
I just don't understand why he wouldn't simply tweet that the promised announcement coinciding with MJ's birthday was delayed. Instead he's tweeting about negative MJ documentaries in Anglo countries. It's not a good look and I get the sense that sympathy for him is starting to wear thin. It's one thing to be in over your head and struggling to get the project together. Not even bothering to stick to very basic promises and refusing to respond to donors asking for clarification (while continuing to actively tweet about other things) honestly just comes across as condescending... I don't think it's intended that way, but it just shows again that he just does not seem up to the task here. And let's be honest, if he hadn't been MJ's cousin but a regular filmmaker, people would have been up in arms about the lack of progress and lack of communication. He's been given a lot of extra leeway due to his connection to Michael and the fact that people are rooting for him. Taj is Michael's nephew rather than cousin. But I'm afraid he's been on a crusade looking for racism where there isn't any since LN. Encouraged by a fan on his project who has blatant racist attitudes towards white people, unfortunately. Here's an example of Taj's obsessing over trivial things: Yet he said nothing at all about this example at the time: This demonstrates Taj has poor research skills or he chooses to believe a particular narrative even though it contradicts his belief: The wording is the same across all examples. His logic is simply flawed. His latest retweeting of the USA, UK and Australian TV companies producing anti-MJ programmes is further proof of his obsession with race. As though entire countries can be tarred like that. He's simply not objective at all or nuanced. So, if Taj can't get a more objective mentality (and he can start by ditching quite a few fans on his team!) and actually develop a laser-like focus on the job at hand.....then I'm afraid I wouldn't expect much else. I said before that Jin unintentionally makes Taj look like an unfocused slacker. It's true he does....
|
|
|
Post by pg13 on Sept 1, 2022 19:01:32 GMT
That would only be true if he hadn't asked fans to donate to him. Because he did we are not "just fans" in this project but people who put their money into it. And these people have every right to ask questions about how their money is being spent. Not only that, but unbeknownst to you, you're apparently supposed to be working on the thing π And that highlights the sheer unprofessionalism of Taj.
|
|
ash
Wondering Who
Posts: 86
|
Post by ash on Sept 1, 2022 19:46:45 GMT
That would only be true if he hadn't asked fans to donate to him. Because he did we are not "just fans" in this project but people who put their money into it. And these people have every right to ask questions about how their money is being spent. Not only that, but unbeknownst to you, you're apparently supposed to be working on the thing π Whaaat? Where did Taj say or write this? I need to see it, omg
|
|
|
Post by pg13 on Sept 1, 2022 19:54:11 GMT
Not only that, but unbeknownst to you, you're apparently supposed to be working on the thing π Whaaat? Where did Taj say or write this? I need to see it, omgΒ Β IIRC, in a tweet. It's either in this thread or a related one somewhere around here.
|
|
|
Post by pg13 on Sept 1, 2022 20:14:17 GMT
Not only that, but unbeknownst to you, you're apparently supposed to be working on the thing π Whaaat? Where did Taj say or write this? I need to see it, omgΒ Β Here's the text of Taj's tweet from 2021: Quite a few on that are eyebrow raisers. Anyway, Taj claimed he spoke to each person named which we know isn't true as he obviously hadn't spoken to Respect herself.
|
|