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Post by HIStoric on Mar 16, 2019 12:46:17 GMT
Did my givealittle donation. So far 35,000 donors and $2.4 million donated, its pretty good big donations and some in the hundreds (Mine not that large as I am not very wealthy). Still every dollar counts and we hope it goes to those who need it. The idiot appeared in court and was laughing, he was cuffed and in a prisoner biler suit, he has been remanded in custody until April. Me too! I did it on Friday night. And it doesn't matter how much you give, it's the thought that counts and we can see every little bit counts so thank you
I like to think that sadistic fuck was secretly super-triggered by seeing our amazing Prime Minister wearing a hijab today in solidarity. No matter your opinion on her politics, you cannot deny that Jacinda Ardern has truly stepped up and done an incredible job this past day or two.
This is my Prime Minister right here:
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Post by bedroom on Mar 16, 2019 16:29:53 GMT
I am new to this So sorry for what happened. May they all rest in peace. I dont know much about the politics in NZ, but the PM standing in solidarity with the Muslim community is something to be admired. MY best wishes to HIStoric and Triumph
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 23:28:55 GMT
I was so pleased for her to adopt the hijab too. She is truly and inclusive and inspirational leader. Could you imagine Scott Morrison, Teresa May or Donald Trump adopt Muslim dress? (Hell to the Nizzaw!)
People of the world please realise our culture is not like this.
This gunman was first of all an Australian import. The Australians are much more racist than we are, their government likes to deport New Zealanders born in Australia to Christmas Island or here for minor crimes. Virtually all of them are brown, white New Zealanders are left alone. He was also unemployed and a member of some insane white nationalist cult that was hell bent on liquidating Brown People, Muslims, Africans, Jews, Paedophiles and other non white/ non hetereosexual social minorities like Gays from the world in their world. He was sick and deluded and we are all horrified.
Previous to this date, there had been no violence perpertrated against the Muslim community or by them. The wrost incidenst were isolated clowns telling a Muslim wopman to take her veil off or to go home. Our country had a pretty good race relations record and was seen by Muslims and other people as an excellent location to migrate too - that illusion has been shattered forever. It will take years for our reputation to come back.
Even more annoying is our country does not have the Death Penalty (It was ended in 1962 and no one was executed after 1957). We do not want this guy aged 28 spending 50 years in a jail cell which will cost us $90k a year. many want him to die - some want him deported to Australia. What will happen is he may get PD (Preventative Detention) which means he goes to jail for the rest of his life. A trial should not take too long as we have the video evidence of him doing it and the manifesto which explained his intentions, making this clear cut - Pre meditated 1st degree Murder. No discounts, manslaughter pleas or time off for parole.
Yet many life sentences here are 10 years and discounts for guilty pleas, remorse, 1/3 served and then parole is too common, a life sentence can be 3 years jail which is not enough. The court system is backed up and a trial can take 2years to frutate and they count the time in jail since first arrest or arraignment as time served. Even now very few inmates have more than 10 years assigned, the longest sentence is only 27 years for the murder and sexual assault of young girls by a coked out drughead.
Sadly we have a ABJ culture (Anything but jail) with many people convicted of manslaughter (Running them over etc, king hits etc) who get like 2 years home detention or 450 hours community service and "Restorative justice" stuff that never bloody works. The high number of Maori and Island inmates is also an excuse to try and keep them out of jail and give them home detention, community service and cultural immersion justice. This man is SNOW WHITE so will not be eligible for any of this crap. Yet many will claim some ancestry of Maoriness and be eligible for all this junk.
The only loophole will be if he claims insanity and many have pulled this off.
I really want him to suffer death or at least he gets sent to Maximum security and is beaten to death by Mongrel Mob (A Maori drug and violence gang) members or something.
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Post by HIStoric on Mar 17, 2019 0:53:47 GMT
I am new to this So sorry for what happened. May they all rest in peace. I dont know much about the politics in NZ, but the PM standing in solidarity with the Muslim community is something to be admired. MY best wishes to HIStoric and Triumph Thanks bedroom ^_^
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2019 3:05:18 GMT
Another victim has died of injuries, a 4 year old girl called Alin. The sadness continues and the scars will never heal.
The toll of 50 now takes it past the 1943 Featherston Revolt as New Zealand's worst ever homicide spree.
The 1943 incident was a camp for Japanese POWs in World War 2, the POW's refused to work and revolted, 48 were killed and one New Zealand soldier (The Japanese attacked the guards and being enemies was considered a treasonous revolt and thus they justified the killing). Of cours etoday that would not slide.
This is much worse and much more cold blooded. There are sick people out there.
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Post by pg13 on Mar 17, 2019 13:23:46 GMT
And yes all White people - You have a lot to answer for, for the way you treat the rest of us fellow melanated humans. No, this is not down to all white people whatsoever. Disgusting racist attitude to go with your bigoted attitudes.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2019 22:45:20 GMT
Over $6 million dollars given in Donations now.
My mistake, the 50th death was not the little girl - an additional body was found in one of the mosques.
The Police have started returning bodies to the family. The Muslim tradition is a body must be washed and shrouded as soon as possible with burial following (Cremation is banned under Islam). They realise this is "impossible" circumstances and thus process has taken longer.
Sweeping laws which will restrict guns further and also people's behaviour on social media are also going to be introduced. the mosque near home has a 24 hour Police guard and there are many flowers in front of it.
Pg13 - I am completely ignoring and hazing you - get a life!
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Post by pg13 on Mar 18, 2019 8:40:48 GMT
Over $6 million dollars given in Donations now. My mistake, the 50th death was not the little girl - an additional body was found in one of the mosques. The Police have started returning bodies to the family. The Muslim tradition is a body must be washed and shrouded as soon as possible with burial following (Cremation is banned under Islam). They realise this is "impossible" circumstances and thus process has taken longer. Sweeping laws which will restrict guns further and also people's behaviour on social media are also going to be introduced. the mosque near home has a 24 hour Police guard and there are many flowers in front of it. Pg13 - I am completely ignoring and hazing you - get a life! Can't say I'm surprised you utterly failed to substantiate your "all white people" nonsense there. You're nothing, but a racist, bigoted and ignorant individual. And I pity you.
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Post by Liberian Girl on Mar 18, 2019 10:26:27 GMT
Triumph - your comment is racist. Please refrain from making these kinds of statements. Blaming all white people for bad things that happen is very ignorant and not helpful. Please stop.
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Post by Vega on Mar 18, 2019 21:21:08 GMT
Huh, wasn't it Triumph who made these comments? Wonder if mr Ukeke Juju lips will fake the album plays by saying Ole Bergson of Hoyavind Norway played 987 times at 1.02 am like with Lemonade. The rights hould be leased to an honest company, not one run by a rubber lipped ex drug dealer and musical pimp.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 2:01:56 GMT
That was a comment about JAY Z who I consider a musical pimp and parasite - not because he is Black, but because all his music is guys talking to drum machines about drugs, bitches and bling along with shooting people. He is very overrated and it is a sad indictement on our society the guy is a billionaire. Unless you are blind its clearly obvious his labial extremities are grossly oversized and ugly in the extreme.
I consider such music unconstructive in our community and it leads to shootings like these - gun violence is a serious issue, poking fun at snowflakes is not.
Liberian girl - Please delete all these comments and lets just stick to the facts about this tragedy.
I am also amazed you find it racist, because in New Zealand - addressing white privilege has become a theme and people in general believe that the behaviour of White people who think they are superior and better than everyone else should be reigned in.
I also like many melanated people think that Whites can not be the victim of racism, only people of colour can - The white people invented racism and used it against Blacks, Browns, Yellows and Red people right up to the 1970s and it still lingers now, especially in Trumpmerica and Australia. The guy who committed this tragedy was a White Supremacist who felt the Muslim population were beneath him and casuing problems and deserved to die - because they threatened his precious white people, yet you get bent out of shape by a couple of comments.
It's time we had a forum board moderated by non white people - I did not come here for your cultural imperialism. I suffer enough from White racism and White people making rules outside - I don't need this shit here.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 2:02:48 GMT
Huh, wasn't it Triumph who made these comments? Wonder if mr Ukeke Juju lips will fake the album plays by saying Ole Bergson of Hoyavind Norway played 987 times at 1.02 am like with Lemonade. The rights hould be leased to an honest company, not one run by a rubber lipped ex drug dealer and musical pimp. You have the same ethics as some underhanded Tabloid as they would be in trying to dig up dirt about Michael Jackson.
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Post by pg13 on Mar 21, 2019 8:26:11 GMT
That was a comment about JAY Z who I consider a musical pimp and parasite - not because he is Black, but because all his music is guys talking to drum machines about drugs, bitches and bling along with shooting people. He is very overrated and it is a sad indictement on our society the guy is a billionaire. Unless you are blind its clearly obvious his labial extremities are grossly oversized and ugly in the extreme. I consider such music unconstructive in our community and it leads to shootings like these - gun violence is a serious issue, poking fun at snowflakes is not. Liberian girl - Please delete all these comments and lets just stick to the facts about this tragedy.I am also amazed you find it racist, because in New Zealand - addressing white privilege has become a theme and people in general believe that the behaviour of White people who think they are superior and better than everyone else should be reigned in. I also like many melanated people think that Whites can not be the victim of racism, only people of colour can - The white people invented racism and used it against Blacks, Browns, Yellows and Red people right up to the 1970s and it still lingers now, especially in Trumpmerica and Australia. The guy who committed this tragedy was a White Supremacist who felt the Muslim population were beneath him and casuing problems and deserved to die - because they threatened his precious white people, yet you get bent out of shape by a couple of comments. It's time we had a forum board moderated by non white people - I did not come here for your cultural imperialism. I suffer enough from White racism and White people making rules outside - I don't need this shit here.Why didn't YOU keep it about the facts of the tragedy in the first place? Instead, you decided to blame every single white person for it. Absolutely nobody has been racist towards you on here in this thread that I can see. But it's obvious you need a LOT of salt and vinegar for the massive chip on your shoulder there.......π€
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