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Post by SmoothGangsta on Jun 1, 2022 20:41:43 GMT
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Post by Snow White on Jun 2, 2022 0:05:49 GMT
What mountain of evidence did she present? All she had as "proof" that Johnny was abusive to her was the text messages that JD sent to his friends talking badly about her and using black humor. The bruises she had in some of her photos are more likely edited, she didn't present any evidence of the alleged rape she went through with a bottle.
Whereas Johnny, he had witnesses that attested Amber punching, scratching, throwing things at him or pulling his hair. He had pictures with bruises, scratches, medical records when she severed his finger, multiple audios of her admitting either starting the fights or inflicting physical violence. She defamed him presenting herself as a survivor of domestic violence and adding up sexual abuse in the process as well because she didn't make that claim in 2016.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2022 4:43:27 GMT
How's that petition to cast Mads Mikkelson as Mera?...
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Post by Liberian Girl on Jun 2, 2022 6:24:12 GMT
I'm absolutely thrilled to see justice served. Johnny Depp deserved this.
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Post by ghost on Jun 2, 2022 7:16:22 GMT
Despite the rest of the world thinking otherwise, her statement seems to suggest that she's still convinced she's innocent. Either she's in too deep to tell the truth, or she's fallen for her own lie.
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Post by DirtyD on Jun 2, 2022 19:31:53 GMT
Just saw somewhere that some women on twitter (I don’t use twitter so I can’t confirm this) are cutting themselves in support of Amber. If so, that’s absolutely mental.
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Post by respect77 on Jun 3, 2022 3:13:15 GMT
Clearly the corporate "woke" media is the enemy of due process.
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Post by respect77 on Jun 3, 2022 8:37:12 GMT
The corporate media is so pressed. They are the enemy of the people, for real. In their twisted word no accused can ever be innocent and vindicated. They always look at the world through the lense of this false oppressed-oppressor dichotomy (rooted in Marxism, I believe) where the supposedly "oppressed" is always right, no matter what. In abuse allegations the supposedly "oppressed" is the accuser (that they immediately call "victim" even if the allegation isn't proven). So she or he is automatically right. And even if it turns out she or he is a liar, we should just ignore that and put that aside as "imperfection" and still consider the accused guilty and destroy his life based on this "imperfect person's" (ie. manipulative liar's) words.
I get flashbacks to the Arvizo trial because I remember there too the media tried to represent their pathological lying as minor imperfections that somehow should have been ignored.
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Post by pg13 on Jun 3, 2022 9:57:20 GMT
Well then.....the accused do NOT have to be perfect individuals in order to be believed they are the victim of false accusations and to receive justice as a result.
What some are doing here is a Circular Reasoning Fallacy and Context Collapse.
People need more than an emotion filled set of allegations as the work of Memory Scientist, Elizabeth Loftus and Co demonstrates.
To do anything else is to contravene the concept of justice, especially Blackstone's formulation.
Follow the evidence. If you win your case, it's usually because the evidence is in your favour.
If this claptrap of believing every single accuser isn't reigned in, we'll end up with more people put in prison without basing it on justice.
You cannot solve an injustice by perpetuating another injustice.
Yes, the press and public alike must stop equating every case with a movement. Indeed, movements can themselves become a Trojan Horse with which to destabilise society.
Equality has become a weapon, unfortunately. Here's an example:
"But what's the point? The point is to break these bastards! Equality is what's going to break them and who can argue with equality? Equality is the Trojan Horse of the Republican movement." - SF/PIRA Gerry Adams
That's as good an example as any.
But what makes this possible?
The Internet and social media excessively promote context collapse as well as perpetual conflict and victimhood even when there's none to be found.
And this is highly addictive stuff designed to get people to respond emotionally. And excessive emotion clouds personal judgement.
There’s a reason I rarely respond emotionally to anyone on-line. More people should step back and do the same.
Otherwise, concepts of justice, innocence and equality will gradually be eroded at an unprecedented rate thanks to the Internet and social media.
Society everywhere is increasingly polarised. We should all be worried about it.
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Jun 3, 2022 10:24:50 GMT
Amber's lawyer Elaine has been going on TV and straight up lying about the UK case. She's also saying they had lots of evidence that was kept out, and that the Jury was tainted by social media and got confused as a result. People have since pointed out it was Amber's team who brought the hashtag stuff into court so if that happened they're partly to blame.
I find it strange she's allowed to just go on TV and misrepresent everything like that without any consequence.
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Post by respect77 on Jun 3, 2022 12:10:23 GMT
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Post by aazzaabb on Jun 3, 2022 16:30:46 GMT
Amber's lawyer Elaine has been going on TV and straight up lying about the UK case. She's also saying they had lots of evidence that was kept out, and that the Jury was tainted by social media and got confused as a result. People have since pointed out it was Amber's team who brought the hashtag stuff into court so if that happened they're partly to blame. I find it strange she's allowed to just go on TV and misrepresent everything like that without any consequence. And to think I actually felt a bit sorry for Elaine. Well….. I take all of that back!! |
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Post by respect77 on Jun 4, 2022 5:36:23 GMT
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Post by Snow White on Jun 4, 2022 13:18:43 GMT
Johnny said it well in the trial, the stigma of being accused never goes away. Even if he had audios of his deranged ex wife admitting she was the one starting physical fights, inflicting the abuse, etc.
In the case of MJ, being so famous that his every move could be tracked via photographs or videos almost every day of his life so he could prove he wasn't there when the allegations were made but the corrupt district attorney changed the dates to fit his case. So even if he had proofs he didn't do any of those heinous crimes he was accused of, even if his legal team showed the accusers were liars, he never won despite of being vindicated in the eyes of the law, just like Johnny.
“I’ve lost everything. No matter the outcome of this trial, I’ve already lost. I lost when these allegations were made cause they will stay with me forever. My life is ruined forever”. -Johnny Depp
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Post by respect77 on Jun 5, 2022 5:46:52 GMT
The "toxic fandom" argument? Check.
The mainstream media is really upset that they don't have a monopoly on telling people what to think when people can watch a trial for themselves.
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