TonyR
The Legend Continues
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Post by TonyR on Jan 25, 2019 20:45:29 GMT
We shouldn't get hung up on Tweets. There'll always be idiots out there and it's easy to think they're the majority as they post more.
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Post by Snow White on Jan 25, 2019 20:59:32 GMT
These are some ofthe flyers that were handed out at Sundance. Beautifully made but what a shame just 4 fans attended to protest. If the screening was done in LA, there would have been dozens of fans protesting. Probably Robson and Safechuck planned it this way on purpose.
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Post by respect77 on Jan 25, 2019 21:14:54 GMT
Absoltuely sickening but way too predictable.
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Post by Snow White on Jan 25, 2019 21:24:46 GMT
Quite naive of me to expect some objectivity from the media. Fucking lazy sheep, that's what they are!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2019 21:31:47 GMT
Absoltuely sickening but way too predictable. Yeah I saw that. Are these all supposed to be journalists that went to this film? I actually couldn't care less about their tweets. They waft of the whole #metoo thing. Never doubt the "victim". As shit as the next few days may be, I just hope the uber poxy softy people don't start a #mutemj thing or whatever. The Estate needs to acknowledge whatever the hell it is they need to to adequately counter act what's being said. Despite what we wanted to hear, it has been well received and believed by some on twitter that were at the film. They clearly went for shock tactics and graphic details (over a span of 4 hours) as opposed to evidence. "Love letters" and voicemails etc. ANything can look sinister if you want it to, and I'm sure as hell those "love letters" were not considered sinister when Robson was no doubt showing it off to his family, friends. Another shit part of this, is that it feels like Robson and Safechuck have won this round. They got their standing ovation, they got their Q&A. Load of shit, but this is the card that has been dealt. I think many fans have been amazing up until now fighting for this cause, but it's out of your hands now, those of you that really faught. It's up to MJ's Estate, Family, Friends to counter act what's happened. We can retweet, tweet, like statuses all we like. At the end of the day, our tweets and messages are going to be put in the same pile as the 2 people that turned up to protest, and one of them had only been a fan since 05 BECAUSE of his trial. None of this helps, and the media run along with it, dmaging the credibility of the likes of Respects video and all the other fans hard work that has gone on over the last few weeks. My faith has not altered in the slightest, and nothing has changed for me. But, in this current climate, this film has been timed perfectly. At the end of the day, this is an attack on a dead man. Like we have said, the thing that separates MJ from the other guys getting done for shitty things is that MJ is the only one who was tried for the crimes he was accused of, and won in his lifetime. To survive 10 years of an FBI investigation, for this to be washed aside because Robson and Safechuck could pull wool over an audiences eyes, tug on the heartsrings is just plain wrong. Trial by media. Let's face it, this is shit. People will believe them. But, on the other hand, people won't. This will calm in a few days, and then we will have to prepare for storm number 2 in a few months. It's such a shame the way the world has gone. Twitter decides guilt. People need to be seen on the sides of victims. People need to show their emotion on every tweet. "This is how I feel. If you think differently, then you are wrong." "Whatever happens, don't let go of my hand"
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Post by SoCav on Jan 25, 2019 21:56:02 GMT
Let's face it, this is shit. People will believe them. But, on the other hand, people won't. This will calm in a few days, and then we will have to prepare for storm number 2 in a few months. It's such a shame the way the world has gone. Twitter decides guilt. People need to be seen on the sides of victims. People need to show their emotion on every tweet. "This is how I feel. If you think differently, then you are wrong." Yes. And you know the shitstorm we'll get over the next few days will be nothing compared to the shitstorm when it airs on tv... If this thing does start gaining traction over the next couple of days (I hope not), then the Estate should seriously start prepping some sort of rebuttal. That Take 2 documentary in 2003 was thrown together in a few weeks. They will have more time now until this hits the airwaves. Taj's documentary series, if it ever even gets to be made, will come way too late...
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Post by SoCav on Jan 25, 2019 22:14:38 GMT
This is all over Twitter now, and the first media reports are starting to appear as well. Of course, it's all highly negative - as expected, not even the slightest attempt to critically reflect on their allegations is made. That's the times we are living in, sadly.
For the first time I'm truly having flashbacks to 03-05. Until now, the Robson/Safechuck cases were largely ignored, even when this documentary was announced. But now it seems to be gaining a lot of traction. It's just so unfair and disheartening to see MJ's name get dragged through the mud again...
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Post by HIStoric on Jan 25, 2019 22:15:11 GMT
Quite naive of me to expect some objectivity from the media. Fucking lazy sheep, that's what they are! This dude can honestly piss off. "You haven't watched it!" no but we have read countless hours of recent contradictory testimonies, we've seen hours of interview footage that goes back and forth on the topic, we've read god knows how many pages of court documents from 2005 where he testifies under oath as an adult that Michael Jackson did NOTHING to him. This documentary is not going to suddenly introduce revolutionary 'facts' that change everything from whatever he's spewed before.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2019 22:17:01 GMT
This is all over Twitter now, and the first media reports are starting to appear as well. Of course, it's all highly negative - as expected, not even the slightest attempt to critically reflect on their allegations is made. That's the times we are living in, sadly. For the first time I'm truly having flashbacks to 03-05. Until now, the Robson/Safechuck cases were largely ignored, even when this documentary was announced. But now it seems to be gaining a lot of traction. It's just so unfair and disheartening to see MJ's name get dragged through the mud again... Yes, it seems like no one is questioning anything at all. Hopefully after all the excitement, at least some of the facts will present themselves
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Post by suzie on Jan 25, 2019 22:18:17 GMT
Absoltuely sickening but way too predictable. Yeah I saw that. Are these all supposed to be journalists that went to this film? I actually couldn't care less about their tweets. They waft of the whole #metoo thing. Never doubt the "victim". As shit as the next few days may be, I just hope the uber poxy softy people don't start a #mutemj thing or whatever. The Estate needs to acknowledge whatever the hell it is they need to to adequately counter act what's being said. Despite what we wanted to hear, it has been well received and believed by some on twitter that were at the film. They clearly went for shock tactics and graphic details (over a span of 4 hours) as opposed to evidence. "Love letters" and voicemails etc. ANything can look sinister if you want it to, and I'm sure as hell those "love letters" were not considered sinister when Robson was no doubt showing it off to his family, friends. Another shit part of this, is that it feels like Robson and Safechuck have won this round. They got their standing ovation, they got their Q&A. Load of shit, but this is the card that has been dealt. I think many fans have been amazing up until now fighting for this cause, but it's out of your hands now, those of you that really faught. It's up to MJ's Estate, Family, Friends to counter act what's happened. We can retweet, tweet, like statuses all we like. At the end of the day, our tweets and messages are going to be put in the same pile as the 2 people that turned up to protest, and one of them had only been a fan since 05 BECAUSE of his trial. None of this helps, and the media run along with it, dmaging the credibility of the likes of Respects video and all the other fans hard work that has gone on over the last few weeks. My faith has not altered in the slightest, and nothing has changed for me. But, in this current climate, this film has been timed perfectly. At the end of the day, this is an attack on a dead man. Like we have said, the thing that separates MJ from the other guys getting done for shitty things is that MJ is the only one who was tried for the crimes he was accused of, and won in his lifetime. To survive 10 years of an FBI investigation, for this to be washed aside because Robson and Safechuck could pull wool over an audiences eyes, tug on the heartsrings is just plain wrong. Trial by media. Let's face it, this is shit. People will believe them. But, on the other hand, people won't. This will calm in a few days, and then we will have to prepare for storm number 2 in a few months. It's such a shame the way the world has gone. Twitter decides guilt. People need to be seen on the sides of victims. People need to show their emotion on every tweet. "This is how I feel. If you think differently, then you are wrong." "Whatever happens, don't let go of my hand" I agree. Fans have fought the good fight, it’s time for his estate abd family to step up
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2019 22:21:18 GMT
I just bought Thriller on HDTracks anyway. Wanted that for a while. Pay day too.
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Post by Vega on Jan 25, 2019 22:27:05 GMT
This is really bad.
A modern day equivalent of the GQ article "Was Michael Jackson framed"? is needed.
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Post by Snow White on Jan 25, 2019 22:36:33 GMT
Were they asked hard questions? I can't stand people applauding these gold-digging liars and watching their disgusting faces.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2019 22:40:30 GMT
Regardless of what the Estate's genuine intentions have been since day 1, the fact of the matter is they stand to lose out on a lot of money if this is allowed run. The Estate likes money at the very least.
They are 100% preparing something somehow. I'm sure of it.
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Jan 25, 2019 22:50:10 GMT
I don't really know what else you guys expected. I said that people will just believe this crap and that is exactly what is going to happen. If the estate does nothing then I fear the worst.
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