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Post by Thriller on Jan 29, 2019 19:53:17 GMT
Yes and no. As he uses both those stories in his original declaration. His declaration mostly goes with 'MJ's threats had me living in constant fear of the truth coming out' but in the very same document, at the start of the document itself, he says he didn't realise it was abuse. Then says that until seeking therapy he didn't 'realise how sick it was' what MJ did to him. The whole document just makes no sense. You can't claim both 'not realising' and 'feared the truth coming out'. My head's gone paralysed... Im taking a break.... In a nutshell, James wants to claim two different reasons for not coming forward sooner. However, using one contradicts the other. In lesser words, he's a liar.
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Post by danm on Jan 29, 2019 19:56:51 GMT
Also confused by this one? Did Safechuck claim to also have a realisation after hearing Wade’s allegations in 2013? As you say the synopsis from the doc says he told his mum back in 2005. Or did Safechuck change his story? In his declaration he claims that he didn't 'realise' it was abuse. He also says until seeking therapy he didn't 'realise how sick it was' what MJ had done to him. Yet in the middle of these two things James goes on and on constantly about the 'fear' of the 'truth' coming out and how MJ would see to 'his life being over'. So what is his current story? That he didn’t realise it was abuse till therapy and hearing Wade’s allegations or keeping quiet for fear of the truth and his life being over?
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Jan 29, 2019 19:57:19 GMT
Still get really weird vibes from Dan Reed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 20:03:06 GMT
Still get really weird vibes from Dan Reed. So, its not just my extreme bias then? ...
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Jan 29, 2019 20:14:11 GMT
Still get really weird vibes from Dan Reed. So, its not just my extreme bias then? ... I mean honestly it could be my extreme bias but I'm still getting them lol. When someone describes alleged abuse as a "real loving relationship" my eyebrows raise a bit, is all.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 20:16:01 GMT
Where did Respects post about Safechuck go, I didnt finish it
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Post by pg13 on Jan 29, 2019 20:17:16 GMT
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Post by elusivemoonwalker on Jan 29, 2019 20:30:14 GMT
How ever good voguls article was it could have pointed out more of the contridictions from testimony in depos to whats in the doc to show they arent credible. You think if someone could send him such info like what has been posted here about safechuck and theres also robsons contridictions you think he might be tempted to write another article. At this time he seems to be the only mainstream not prepared to go along with the lynching
Reeds comments smack of nambla. Hes obsessed with such programes and thats why hes such desperate to paint mj as an abuser.showing his blatant bias. Heck at least the like of perriti in their hatchet docs tried to claim they were fans! Inorder to make them seen not so one sided.but he has no problem putting all his cards onthe table. Even more so if the info about him been on youtube making vile comments about mj is true
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Post by Cloudbuster on Jan 29, 2019 20:47:20 GMT
Interesting tidbit.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 20:58:47 GMT
Can someone please confirm that Safechuck both has stated that:
He has always realsied he was abused, and hated Michael (telling his mom prior to 09)
He had an awakening after seeing Robson on tv
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Post by respect77 on Jan 29, 2019 21:13:13 GMT
Can someone please confirm that Safechuck both has stated that: He has always realsied he was abused, and hated Michael (telling his mom prior to 09) He had an awakening after seeing Robson on tv
I don't think if his story would be "he always knew he was abused" since he claims in the doc he thought as a kid that he was in love.
It contradicts either way.
Say, as a kid he thought it was love, then in 2005 he told his mom in 2005 MJ was a bad man/MJ abused him (whichever version you go by). Then it still doesn't make sense for him to say he had an awakening when he saw Robson and until then he thought it wasn't abuse and wasn't wrong. (And yes, that's what he says.)
I could not tell you in a straightforward manner what he actually alleges. It's a lot of contradictory BS.
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Post by Cloudbuster on Jan 29, 2019 21:18:06 GMT
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Post by suzie on Jan 29, 2019 21:26:46 GMT
Still get really weird vibes from Dan Reed. So, its not just my extreme bias then? ... No he is of questionable character
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Post by Snow White on Jan 29, 2019 21:34:24 GMT
Anyone who seems to be a NAMBLA member would get weird vibes from me, related to MJ or not. Both Victor Gutierrez and Dan Reed seem to fit into that category.
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Post by HIStoric on Jan 29, 2019 21:43:45 GMT
There’s always a bigger fish.
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