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Post by respect77 on Sept 24, 2019 14:23:36 GMT
It's arbitration. As far as I understand it, it's a way for the Estate to get information about the circumstances how LN was made, financed etc.
And what Elusivemoonwalker posted about is not the HBO case, but the Robson appeal. Two different cases.
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Post by elusivemoonwalker on Sept 24, 2019 15:20:58 GMT
Yeah sorry that info is about the robson etc appeal.
@tony. Because theres nothing else the estate can do to defend mj in court. Freedom of speech and you cant slander the dead stops them from going the normal route. So they had to find something else and they found the contract
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Post by TonyR on Sept 24, 2019 18:29:47 GMT
Yeah sorry that info is about the robson etc appeal. @tony. Because theres nothing else the estate can do to defend mj in court. Freedom of speech and you cant slander the dead stops them from going the normal route. So they had to find something else and they found the contract Yeah I get that. It's just a very tenuous argument. But you're right, do what you can.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 18:31:37 GMT
Yeah sorry that info is about the robson etc appeal. @tony. Because theres nothing else the estate can do to defend mj in court. Freedom of speech and you cant slander the dead stops them from going the normal route. So they had to find something else and they found the contract Yeah I get that. It's just a very tenuous argument. But you're right, do what you can. Also, the disparagement is that theyve implied hes a pedophile when hes actually not one. Total fake fan, man... SMH. Literally shaking right now.
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Post by TonyR on Sept 24, 2019 18:59:57 GMT
Yeah I get that. It's just a very tenuous argument. But you're right, do what you can. Also, the disparagement is that theyve implied hes a pedophile when hes actually not one. Total fake fan, man... SMH. Literally shaking right now. Yeah but that's not the case though is it? It's 'you promised you wouldn't be nasty as you are'. Anyway #GBBO
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 19:06:58 GMT
Also, the disparagement is that theyve implied hes a pedophile when hes actually not one. Total fake fan, man... SMH. Literally shaking right now. Yeah but that's not the case though is it? It's 'you promised you wouldn't be nasty as you are'. Anyway #GBBO I dont understand anything in that except for the hashtag
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Post by barbee on Sept 24, 2019 19:42:26 GMT
Too bad there was applause when Reed mentioned Safechuck and Robson's names in his speech. I would have preferred stony silence.
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Post by barbee on Sept 24, 2019 19:52:39 GMT
Is it just me, but if I understand it right this court case is ridiculous? Just because of some contract back in 1993 that said they shouldn't make disparaging comments about MJ, then they shouldn't have showed LN? How does this help? It's because it's garbage, unethical & innaccurate is why it shouldn't have been aired. If I didn't know as much as a fan it seems a very thin spurious argument that sounds like, 'yeah, he may have been a pedo, but you shouldn't tell people because you said you'd be nice.' It's just you. Brilliant for the attorneys to find that disparagement agreement against Michael AND his companies (that are all still around, including ex employees) when you can't do a thing otherwise because of free speech and no laws about slandering the dead. Now we have it IN A CONTRACT! That mentions perpetuity.
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Post by HIStoric on Sept 24, 2019 22:13:04 GMT
Is it just me, but if I understand it right this court case is ridiculous? Just because of some contract back in 1993 that said they shouldn't make disparaging comments about MJ, then they shouldn't have showed LN? How does this help? It's because it's garbage, unethical & innaccurate is why it shouldn't have been aired. If I didn't know as much as a fan it seems a very thin spurious argument that sounds like, 'yeah, he may have been a pedo, but you shouldn't tell people because you said you'd be nice.' It's just you. Brilliant for the attorneys to find that disparagement agreement against Michael AND his companies (that are all still around, including ex employees) when you can't do a thing otherwise because of free speech and no laws about slandering the dead. Now we have it IN A CONTRACT! That mentions perpetuity. I don’t think it’s just Tony. In article comments I have seen other people saying that no matter who wins this court case, it’s doesn’t really change anything, nor will it convince anyone to think otherwise about whether Michael molested children or not. After all the court case doesn’t really investigate the validation of LN’s accusations, merely just if this particular production company was allowed to make those accusations against MJ specifically or not.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 22:16:18 GMT
It's just you. Brilliant for the attorneys to find that disparagement agreement against Michael AND his companies (that are all still around, including ex employees) when you can't do a thing otherwise because of free speech and no laws about slandering the dead. Now we have it IN A CONTRACT! That mentions perpetuity. I don’t think it’s just Tony. In article comments I have seen other people saying that no matter who wins this court case, it’s doesn’t really change anything, nor will it convince anyone to think otherwise about whether Michael molested children or not. After all the court case doesn’t really investigate the validation of LN’s accusations, merely just if this particular production company was allowed to make those accusations against MJ specifically or not. It can uncover HBOs dealings with Reed and the 2 dicks. Possible payments to both said abusees, thats what I read. There is quite a bit that could come out of this that could damage both the film and HBO very much, along with the claims of the 2 lead stars.
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Post by respect77 on Sept 25, 2019 2:57:26 GMT
It's just you. Brilliant for the attorneys to find that disparagement agreement against Michael AND his companies (that are all still around, including ex employees) when you can't do a thing otherwise because of free speech and no laws about slandering the dead. Now we have it IN A CONTRACT! That mentions perpetuity. I don’t think it’s just Tony. In article comments I have seen other people saying that no matter who wins this court case, it’s doesn’t really change anything, nor will it convince anyone to think otherwise about whether Michael molested children or not. After all the court case doesn’t really investigate the validation of LN’s accusations, merely just if this particular production company was allowed to make those accusations against MJ specifically or not. Those who want him to be guilty do not accept the 2005 verdict either, which was about the merit of the case. Just saying.
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Post by HIStoric on Sept 25, 2019 4:10:09 GMT
I don’t think it’s just Tony. In article comments I have seen other people saying that no matter who wins this court case, it’s doesn’t really change anything, nor will it convince anyone to think otherwise about whether Michael molested children or not. After all the court case doesn’t really investigate the validation of LN’s accusations, merely just if this particular production company was allowed to make those accusations against MJ specifically or not. It can uncover HBOs dealings with Reed and the 2 dicks. Possible payments to both said abusees, thats what I read. There is quite a bit that could come out of this that could damage both the film and HBO very much, along with the claims of the 2 lead stars. I guess so, we will have to wait and see.
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Post by Cloudbuster on Sept 25, 2019 8:11:04 GMT
I don’t think it’s just Tony. In article comments I have seen other people saying that no matter who wins this court case, it’s doesn’t really change anything, nor will it convince anyone to think otherwise about whether Michael molested children or not. After all the court case doesn’t really investigate the validation of LN’s accusations, merely just if this particular production company was allowed to make those accusations against MJ specifically or not. Those who want him to be guilty do not accept the 2005 verdict either, which was about the merit of the case. Just saying. Are truly sick in the head.
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Post by elusivemoonwalker on Sept 25, 2019 9:36:31 GMT
As has been said many a time. If god himself came down and said mj was innocent some people still wouldnt believe. Theres to much money to be made off guilt.and a wipping boy needed to cover up for the real abusers in hollywood.
And then you have the numbnuts who would rather a child be a victim than mj be innocent.but are to thick to even realise that is the logic they are running with
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 20:06:11 GMT
I think LNs season is finally over.
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