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Post by Cloudbuster on Feb 4, 2019 21:14:39 GMT
A "remarkable and important documentary"? Yeah, I suppose it is if all you've ever done is follow the media's biased and dishonest narrative.
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Post by SoCav on Feb 4, 2019 23:30:00 GMT
I guess getting facts tweeted at you is now a form of 'online abuse' - cause that's the only semi-coordinated effort by MJ fans I have seen on Twitter. Quick, get the Head of Security!
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Post by aazzaabb on Feb 4, 2019 23:33:42 GMT
I guess getting facts tweeted at you is now a form of 'online abuse' - cause that's the only semi-coordinated effort by MJ fans I have seen on Twitter. Quick, get the Head of Security! Oh dear. They don’t like being schooled by “crazy” MJ fans do they?! Schooled with facts!
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Post by Liberian Girl on Feb 5, 2019 6:59:52 GMT
Dan Reed in a recent interview:
"It does seem contradictory […] that a man would say one thing in 2005 and something completely different in 2017,” Reed acknowledged. “That’s the beauty of having a broad canvas to be able to tell a story which encompasses two decades […] And I think that by the end of it you really do understand why Wade was compelled — because he loved Michael — to support him on the witness stand and that why, subsequently, he could no longer reconcile himself with not speaking the truth.”
BULLSHIT. And after reading the way Reed romanticises child abuse in other comments, he's just messed up.
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Post by pg13 on Feb 5, 2019 10:30:49 GMT
Do we know how many times Wade Robson alleges Michael Jackson abused him?
We already know that the Robsons were at Neverland with Michael there on just FOUR occasions. They'd been there many times WITHOUT Michael being there.
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Post by respect77 on Feb 5, 2019 11:35:28 GMT
He claims "every time we were together it happened", which is a smart way of getting around having to name a number yet make it look extensive.
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Post by pg13 on Feb 5, 2019 11:52:07 GMT
He claims "every time we were together it happened", which is a smart way of getting around having to name a number yet make it look extensive. Yet the general public who aren't fully aware of the details of the case end up thinking it happened hundreds of times over 7 years! I don't think genuine victims are constantly vague. Pretty sure they tend to be more specific than not. And certainly don't say their memories are "evolving"!
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Feb 5, 2019 15:58:12 GMT
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Post by Snow White on Feb 5, 2019 15:58:37 GMT
Sundance hypocrisy much? "Sundance Institute always stands in solidarity with those whose brave truth-telling shines light on abusive behavior. Recent reports in the press have made us aware of an admission of sexual abuse by Sterling Van Wagenen, who played a role in founding both the Festival and the Institute. He has no current connection to either entity, and hasn't since he left our Utah Advisory Board in 1993. We categorically denounce his behavior as described in recent reports." kutv.com/news/local/lds-temple-videos-director-sundance-co-founder-admits-to-child-molestation-says-website
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Post by Snow White on Feb 5, 2019 16:08:01 GMT
Do you know by chance if a longer version of this deposition exists? Razor is right, this footage is not exclusive but I've just seen a 3 minutes version on YT like 4 or 5 years ago before Daily Fail uploaded the 10 minutes version.
This went viral in my country.
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Post by rhilo on Feb 5, 2019 16:19:45 GMT
I've been avoiding most news/gossip sites, but had the misfortune of landing on the daily fail homepage earlier in the day and was disgusted to see that video as their top story. Exit and never again until the witch hunt ends. I wish the estate, Taj, whoever would hurry up with their next course of action...
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Post by pg13 on Feb 5, 2019 16:23:04 GMT
Do you know by chance if a longer version of this deposition exists? Razor is right, this footage is not exclusive but I've just seen a 3 minutes version on YT like 4 or 5 years ago before Daily Fail uploaded the 10 minutes version. This went viral in my country. Should be available. Michael was actually going through a list of stories and disputing them before he got to the bit about molestation allegations. Easy to cast aspersions on that specific part without the rest of it. Edit: I believe that 10mins is the longest footage of it around. The rest of it hasn't come out, AFAIK. But Razorfist said it was related to song copyright lawsuit. That would be very strange. The 1996 deposition is actually related to the lawsuit brought by FIVE disgruntled ex-Neverland employees. Allegations of molestation was part of their suit and they alleged Michael threatened them over it. Michael won that one too.
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Post by respect77 on Feb 5, 2019 16:58:40 GMT
You have to ask the question: if the truth is on their side why does the media constantly have to manipulate and lie?
1. This video is nothing new. 2. The deposition was taken in a lawsuit brought against him by ex-employees for unfair dismissal. Not the Chandler case or whatever suggestion the media is running with. In that context these questions were, yes, inappropriate. The opposing lawyer is clearly bullying him. 3. Actually my opinion was always that it is exculpatory. MJ is disgusted, shock, in disbelief and as if he cannot even hear that kind of trash when he is asked about molestation. 4. What is exactly the media's suggestion here? He is asked about Brett and Mac. Those two men have always maintained he didn't do anything to them. 5. I hear from a friend of mind that local media in their country manipulated this tape: they cut out the first part where he laughs (obviously at someone off camera) and they made it look like he laughs at serious questions about child molestation. Then they called him a liar (just like that, yes - I wonder what the supposed lie is here, since Brett and Mac never accused him of anything) and talked about him squirming at questions about child molestation, but never actually showing that scene (wonder why). This was on national news in that country.
I can't believe this global, blatant witch hunt that is going on here.
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Post by Cloudbuster on Feb 5, 2019 17:20:27 GMT
I can't believe this global, blatant witch hunt that is going on here. We shouldn't be too surprised, really. The media were never going to let the 10th anniversary of his death pass without killing him once again.
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Post by respect77 on Feb 5, 2019 17:23:53 GMT
I can't believe this global, blatant witch hunt that is going on here. We shouldn't be too surprised, really. The media were never going to let the 10th anniversary of his death pass without killing him once again.
I hate them. Really. I hate all of them. Fucking psychopaths.
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