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Post by respect77 on Nov 18, 2020 12:00:50 GMT
This is the photographer's page:
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Post by Michaels Lover on Nov 18, 2020 13:23:11 GMT
aaaww wow nice pics
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Post by MattyJam on Nov 18, 2020 19:06:31 GMT
Fantastic pics. Whenever you see a picture of him visiting an orphanage you can see the pure goodness radiating from him. You can see how much joy it brought him as it's written all over his face.
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Post by Russg on Nov 18, 2020 19:24:03 GMT
I've already seen the haters on Twitter making a big deal out of this one:  |
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Post by MattyJam on Nov 18, 2020 19:30:58 GMT
I've already seen the haters on Twitter making a big deal out of this one: Oh, give over. Kids aren't that naive. If it was anyone else they wouldn't say a word, but MJ haters routinely take perfectly innocent things and distort it to try and strengthen their strawman arguments. |
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Post by respect77 on Nov 18, 2020 19:44:11 GMT
Who cares about haters? Can we not pollute this thread with nonsense?
Thanks.
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Post by Russg on Nov 18, 2020 19:44:21 GMT
I've already seen the haters on Twitter making a big deal out of this one: Oh, give over. Kids aren't that naive. If it was anyone else they wouldn't say a word, but MJ haters routinely take perfectly innocent things and distort it to try and strengthen their strawman arguments. I dunno Matty, I did cringe when I saw this on my timeline. I do think MJ was wildly inappropriate around kids at times which didn't do him any favours and at times, made him look very bad in front of people who already believe he was guilty. |
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Post by respect77 on Nov 18, 2020 19:49:19 GMT
Oh, give over. Kids aren't that naive. If it was anyone else they wouldn't say a word, but MJ haters routinely take perfectly innocent things and distort it to try and strengthen their strawman arguments. I dunno Matty, I did cringe when I saw this on my timeline. I do think MJ was wildly inappropriate around kids at times which didn't do him any favours and at times, made him look very bad in front of people who already believe he was guilty. The photographer told the story of this picture. MJ visited a house that he considered to buy and this was the room of the teenage son of the family. Who can be seen in some pictures. People do lot more "inappropriate" things around kids and no one bats an eyelid. I sometimes think that some fans read haters so much that they kind of adopt the hater way of thinking after a while. There's nothing that haters wouldn't use against him. If MJ had ever gone incognito on an Internet forum and posted a thread like you did about Aaron Carter's porn and dick and later it came out it was him, do you think haters wouldn't use that against him as well? Since kids can read public internet forums as well.But MJ isn't allowed any moment of light hearted joking about a photo he just sees on a wall because he's being judged immediately. Be thankful that your own actions aren't as much under scrutiny all the time. |
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Post by MattyJam on Nov 18, 2020 19:53:42 GMT
Oh, give over. Kids aren't that naive. If it was anyone else they wouldn't say a word, but MJ haters routinely take perfectly innocent things and distort it to try and strengthen their strawman arguments. I dunno Matty, I did cringe when I saw this on my timeline. I do think MJ was wildly inappropriate around kids at times which didn't do him any favours and at times, made him look very bad in front of people who already believe he was guilty. I think "wildly inappropriate" is a bit of a stretch. Quick, we must alert the church elders. I'm sure the kid (is that Omar?) was scarred for life. |
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Post by respect77 on Nov 18, 2020 19:55:32 GMT
It's one of the Cascio kids. Aldo I think. His older brothers, Frank and Eddie were there as well. Including a lot of other people in the entourage.
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Post by respect77 on Nov 18, 2020 20:00:30 GMT
Here's what the photographer said of the photo when they asked him if it's real or not: "The MJ Beats team went after the photographer to bring facts about the controversial photo: Peter Morey Peter Morey is highly regarded as one of South Africa's leading event, corporation and celebrity photographers. The South African was Nelson Mandela's personal photographer in the last years of his life and recorded the King of Pop's passage through Africa between 1996/97. We asked Peter about the veracity of the photo, to whom he categorically said: It's real [via Facebook]: Yes it's real. I took. I remember the details clearly. ’’ Speaking of the disbelief of Michael Jackson fans who say the photo is not real, we asked Peter Morey to briefly describe her story: ‘‘ I took the picture in person while he was on a visit to South Africa. He was thinking of buying a house in South Africa, and this was a poster in one of the kids ’rooms he saw while visiting the house. It was a rare moment that I saw the real, fun, loving and humorous Michael Jackson ’’" mjbeats.com.br/a-foto-de-michael-jackson-fato-ou-fake-2950171e3a9e?gi=865a71d1fd51Funny how a normal person of the general public like him (who was actually there) didn't think anything of it, but somehow we should care about what obsessed haters on Twitter think, as if those people don't turn even Man in the Mirror into evidence of MJ's guilt. This is the family whose home he visited. The room is probably the guy's next to him. m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10158681123351098&id=696246097&set=a.10158681097481098&source=43 |
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Post by Russg on Nov 18, 2020 22:24:48 GMT
I dunno Matty, I did cringe when I saw this on my timeline. I do think MJ was wildly inappropriate around kids at times which didn't do him any favours and at times, made him look very bad in front of people who already believe he was guilty. The photographer told the story of this picture. MJ visited a house that he considered to buy and this was the room of the teenage son of the family. Who can be seen in some pictures. People do lot more "inappropriate" things around kids and no one bats an eyelid. I sometimes think that some fans read haters so much that they kind of adopt the hater way of thinking after a while. There's nothing that haters wouldn't use against him. If MJ had ever gone incognito on an Internet forum and posted a thread like you did about Aaron Carter's porn and dick and later it came out it was him, do you think haters wouldn't use that against him as well? Since kids can read public internet forums as well.But MJ isn't allowed any moment of light hearted joking about a photo he just sees on a wall because he's being judged immediately. Be thankful that your own actions aren't as much under scrutiny all the time. I take your point about the Aaron Carter thing, but I don't think there are any kids who post on this forum, so I feel that you bringing that up was a low blow. As always, you cannot take any criticism of Saint Michael Jackson. Just because he was innocent (which we all agree on), it doesn't mean he didn't do some stupid things in his lifetime. Just because he was falsely accused, it doesn't mean he wasn't in part responsible for some of the tragic things that happened to him. Pictures like this just feed into the hater narrative and it makes me pissed off at MJ for being so clueless or studid. It's bad enough that he kept hanging around kids after 93, but to allow a photographer to take a pic of you jokingly touching a provocative image of a woman whilst standing next to a young boy is just plain stupid for someone in MJ's position. He was either incredibly naive or incredibly arrogant to behave in this way. I am not saying he is doing anything wrong in this pic per se, and no, I don't believe the child would be "scarred for life" or whatever nonsense Matty spouted. But it seems I am the only one truly looking out for MJ here. Fans like you and Matty are really no better than the sycophants who surrounded him, the yes men who were too in awe of his fame/power/wealth/influence/status to ever call MJ out on his shit. This is foolish behaviour, no different than when he defended sharing his bed with kids on Bashir/Sawyer. Anybody who truly cared about MJ, in life or death, wouldn't defend his foolishness regarding these issues. You are not a better fan than me just because you defend every single thing he ever did. It undermines your arguments as you just come across as someone who can't see the wood for the trees. |
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Post by MattyJam on Nov 18, 2020 22:39:42 GMT
The photographer told the story of this picture. MJ visited a house that he considered to buy and this was the room of the teenage son of the family. Who can be seen in some pictures. People do lot more "inappropriate" things around kids and no one bats an eyelid. I sometimes think that some fans read haters so much that they kind of adopt the hater way of thinking after a while. There's nothing that haters wouldn't use against him. If MJ had ever gone incognito on an Internet forum and posted a thread like you did about Aaron Carter's porn and dick and later it came out it was him, do you think haters wouldn't use that against him as well? Since kids can read public internet forums as well.But MJ isn't allowed any moment of light hearted joking about a photo he just sees on a wall because he's being judged immediately. Be thankful that your own actions aren't as much under scrutiny all the time. I take your point about the Aaron Carter thing, but I don't think there are any kids who post on this forum, so I feel that you bringing that up was a low blow. As always, you cannot take any criticism of Saint Michael Jackson. Just because he was innocent (which we all agree on), it doesn't mean he didn't do some stupid things in his lifetime. Just because he was falsely accused, it doesn't mean he wasn't in part responsible for some of the tragic things that happened to him. Pictures like this just feed into the hater narrative and it makes me pissed off at MJ for being so clueless or studid. It's bad enough that he kept hanging around kids after 93, but to allow a photographer to take a pic of you jokingly touching a provocative image of a woman whilst standing next to a young boy is just plain stupid for someone in MJ's position. He was either incredibly naive or incredibly arrogant to behave in this way. I am not saying he is doing anything wrong in this pic per se, and no, I don't believe the child would be "scarred for life" or whatever nonsense Matty spouted. But it seems I am the only one truly looking out for MJ here. Fans like you and Matty are really no better than the sycophants who surrounded him, the yes men who were too in awe of his fame/power/wealth/influence/status to ever call MJ out on his shit. This is foolish behaviour, no different than when he defended sharing his bed with kids on Bashir/Sawyer. Anybody who truly cared about MJ, in life or death, wouldn't defend his foolishness regarding these issues. You are not a better fan than me just because you defend every single thing he ever did. It undermines your arguments as you just come across as someone who can't see the wood for the trees. You are making a mountain out of a molehill Russ. Would you honestly analyse a picture of this nature so harshly of anyone else other than Michael Jackson? It just seems to me that MJ is held to a different standard than many other people in the public eye. The pop industry is full of scantily clad females, stripping off their clothes, girl groups marketing to tweens wearing next to nothing and teaching young girls highly-sexualised dance moves. You have celeb sex tapes, nudes, people like Justin Bieber skinny dipping completely full frontal whilst knowingly being photographed... the shit is endless. Sex is everywhere in pop culture and is - too often - thrust in front of young eyes. The image you are making such a fuss about doesn't even compare to some of that shit. I bet you wouldn't think twice about this picture if a) MJ hadn't cultivated such a clean-cut public image and b) he wasn't falsely accused of child molestation. Why should he be held to a higher standard than everyone else just because he was falsely accused? |
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Post by respect77 on Nov 19, 2020 5:23:41 GMT
The photographer told the story of this picture. MJ visited a house that he considered to buy and this was the room of the teenage son of the family. Who can be seen in some pictures. People do lot more "inappropriate" things around kids and no one bats an eyelid. I sometimes think that some fans read haters so much that they kind of adopt the hater way of thinking after a while. There's nothing that haters wouldn't use against him. If MJ had ever gone incognito on an Internet forum and posted a thread like you did about Aaron Carter's porn and dick and later it came out it was him, do you think haters wouldn't use that against him as well? Since kids can read public internet forums as well.But MJ isn't allowed any moment of light hearted joking about a photo he just sees on a wall because he's being judged immediately. Be thankful that your own actions aren't as much under scrutiny all the time. I take your point about the Aaron Carter thing, but I don't think there are any kids who post on this forum, so I feel that you bringing that up was a low blow. It's not a low blow at all. Had MJ posted such a post that you did about Aaron Carter on a public forum, salivating about details of someone's cock (or vagina, for that matter), people like you would whine about that too and accuse him of being inappropriate and haters whose opinions you apparently hold in such high regards would use it against him more than they can use this photo. Guaranteed. But because you are just RussG not MJ, you can freely post such a thread with no one making anything out of it. Lucky for you. If it was MJ it would somehow be evidence of having no boundaries and being inappropriate at best and evidence of his guilt by the haters that you love referring to as people whose opinions we should care about. This is not a low blow, but showing how MJ is held to different standards than everyone else. Including by people who don't hold themselves to similarly high standards.
Should I remind you some of the sick, perverted stuff these haters post on Twitter, in open sight of children? Or their harassment of children, like the Kid of Pop? Or them sending hate messages to Taj about how they would rape his child? Or them daydreaming about raping MJ "as a punishment"? I could go on. Are these really the people whose opinions we should care about as morality police? I personally don't. They are also the same people who analyze MJ's lyrics and see evidence of pedophilia in songs like Man in the Mirror, Remember the Time and just anywhere. LOL.
The photographer, for example, is not a fan. Just a normal dude who was assigned to take photos of MJ while he was there and who witnessed this scene live. Yet, he didn't see anything wrong with it, didn't make anything out of it. The only people making a fuss about this are haters and the kind of fans who care way too much about what haters think.
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Post by respect77 on Nov 19, 2020 6:18:49 GMT
Would you honestly analyse a picture of this nature so harshly of anyone else other than Michael Jackson? It just seems to me that MJ is held to a different standard than many other people in the public eye.
He is. Take for example, Chris Rock who never hid his hate for MJ and who made a good living of MJ jokes and joking about the MJ allegations for a while.
Now, this same Chris Rock once told a story of how he once was asked to visit a dying kid in a hospital and he sneaked some porn magazines in for him "so that he has a good time before he dies". This was told by him as a funny story and his audience laughed and was entertained by it. I have never seen him ever being criticized for it or anyone saying this was inappropriate or anything like that. By Rock this was considered to be funny and probably "macho" or something. Imagine MJ ever doing such a thing!
Then this same Chris Rock turned around and made fun of MJ and the allegations - including the false accusation that he showed Gavin porn magazines.
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