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Post by bedroom on Mar 24, 2018 14:40:39 GMT
He’s become a professional ‘victim’ . Making a career out of it. It's an alluring career too. Especially when you are not an actual victim. If I could do it all over again I would get a BA in Professional Victimization and Public Relations.First Module: PVPR001 - Introduction to Turning Your Neurosis Into An Asset Second Module: PVPR002 - Choosing Your Target: Introduction to Rich but Eccentric People.
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Post by Thriller on Apr 25, 2018 22:28:55 GMT
Wade's latest blog post: In his court papers Michael Jackson is held as the source of the reason as to why he didn't continue on his path to stardom. Yet here, again, we see his real issues creep through. How can you mention being abused among dance and inspiration, as if it's just another life experience? Also: Writing and producing music continues. I get a big music publishing deal. Pressure feels stronger than ever to deliver. Fun is slipping away and taking productivity with it. More and more pressure and expectation builds in my career. My love affair with dance: on the rocks. Fun is slipping away. Stakes are high. 20 years old, MTVʻs “The Wade Robson Project.” Dance is back in my life. Some moments of fun but ultimately stained by the superficial desire for fame.
21 years old, I quit dance again to focus on Film Directing. Love/Hate relationship continues.
23 years old, join the second season of So You Think You Can Dance. Feeling experimental + playful. First piece out the gate wins an Emmy. Gift/Curse.
5 year resurgence of choreography career. Another Emmy. Music creation here and there. Music and movement interest expansion. Starts out fun. Pressure builds. Less and less play. Career peaking. Anxiety peeking. Just like with a prior blog post we see him expose his issues with the pressure to be successful and how he isn't enjoying dance. Fast forward to 2012 and all of a sudden his issues are due to Michael Jackson. From his amended complaint: ![](https://image.ibb.co/m98B6x/WadeBS.png) What are the chances of somebody who is quite clearly so inconsistent in what he wants to do in life continuing 'on as one of the most successful talents in the entertainment industry'? How many hugely successful people have ever done one thing, ditched it, did another, ditched that, and then returned to the original thing they did? Wade was going to choreography one of Britney's tours years ago, yet dropped out, claiming he wanted to focus on his own projects with his wife. He was going to direct Step Up 4 but then dropped out, this time though MJ is to blame. Edit: The other blog post I referred to (the portion in which he contradicts himself). I just realised upon reading this portion again that he also contradicts himself by saying 'the (temporary) destruction of my relationship with my gifts.) From his complaint: ![](https://image.ibb.co/isOgrx/Wadelie.png)
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Post by Snow White on Apr 26, 2018 0:15:45 GMT
I know some of you guys have said before Robson sued Michael in hopes of getting millions in a quiet settlement and then winning his crap of a "case" but many of his problems derive from his mother's pressures to work in showbiz to be famous since a very young age and then add he's more likely bipolar. Bipolar people want to do many things in their manic phase but they're unable to finish because the depression kicks in. So the reasons why Robson is like this today are because of his mental issues and how his mother ruined his childhood, NOT Michael Jackson. Michael was the one who told Joy to not make her son working that hard for his age and to let him enjoy his childhood but MJ is his scapegoat because Robson does't have the balls to admit and tell his mother how she screwed him for life, Robson should have sued his mother.
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Post by respect77 on Apr 26, 2018 4:10:37 GMT
This is what he claimed in his declaration:
Here is another quote from his lawsuit:
In his court papers he claims that if not for alleged sexual abuse by MJ, his career would have “continued this upward trajectory”, but based on his blog posts that is clearly another lie. The reality is that he has long struggled with the pressures and expectations of his job and he crumbled under those pressures and expectations. By his own words that he wrote on his blog - not only in this above quoted post but earlier as well. Like:
So here he clearly admits what led to his breakdowns was his inablity to live with the pressures and stress of his job. Here is another quote from his blog that says the same:
Wade’s issues with the entertainment business and work did not start with his “realization” of alleged sexual abuse in 2012, but they have long predated it. He only started making sexual abuse allegations against MJ, after he has already crumbled under the pressures and expectations of his job, needed to quit and find a new source of income.
His blog is very damning to him and his case and he is such a fool that he doesn't even realize it. But then he probably only cares about his potential clients as a vedic meditation teacher and he knows those people won't read his court documents and compare what he claimed there to what he says on his blog.
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Post by respect77 on Apr 26, 2018 4:32:58 GMT
Michael was the one who told Joy to not make her son working that hard for his age and to let him enjoy his childhood but MJ is his scapegoat because Robson does't have the balls to admit and tell his mother how she screwed him for life, Robson should have sued his mother. Spot on. For every negative thing in his life he blames MJ. He blames his unhealthy work attitudes on MJ: And in his deposition: Yet, it was Joy who made him work and it was MJ who was trying to talk her out of that according to Joy's own words! Just compare the contradicting narratives here: So who really taught him to work all the time? It really looks like that he is shifting them blame for that from his mother onto MJ. I agree with you completely: he doesn't have the guts to face his mother about his real issues. This is a completely psychotic guy who is trying to solve his mental issues in very pathological ways. Among other things his mommy issues and his issues with the fact that his mother overworked him as a child. And I suspect Joy supports him in this, for one, because she is a biased mother, but also because this narrative is convenient to her as well. Now the family has a scapegoat for everything. Everything is MJ's fault.
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Post by Snow White on Apr 26, 2018 4:50:18 GMT
He's such a pathetic, lying idiot who can't even get his own BS consistent. What a shame just some of us fans care enough to see how full of shit he truly is and will take advantage not all the people investigate to keep exploiting real sexual abuse survivors making a living as one of them. Truly disgusting.
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Post by ghost on Apr 26, 2018 5:44:57 GMT
I know some of you guys have said before Robson sued Michael in hopes of getting millions in a quiet settlement and then winning his crap of a "case" but many of his problems derive from his mother's pressures to work in showbiz to be famous since a very young age and then add he's more likely bipolar. Bipolar people want to do many things in their manic phase but they're unable to finish because the depression kicks in. So the reasons why Robson is like this today are because of his mental issues and how his mother ruined his childhood, NOT Michael Jackson. Michael was the one who told Joy to not make her son working that hard for his age and to let him enjoy his childhood but MJ is his scapegoat because Robson does't have the balls to admit and tell his mother how she screwed him for life, Robson should have sued his mother. To be honest, I think you are being too kind to him. You're right, he clearly has mental health issues, and his mother clearly did a number on him. And the fact that she still claims to have "no regrets" in how she raised her children when Wade is so clearly psychologically damaged shows how ruthless she is and how adament she remains that she has no role to play in Wade's mental breakdowns in adulthood. But make no mistake, this was still all about the pursuit of $$$ for Wade. Mental health doesn't justify or absolve him of what he's done and the lies he's told in the pursuit of MJ's money. Wade places the blame on Michael I suspect out of jealousy/resentment. He was led to believe from a pushy stage mother and a motivational mentor (MJ) that he would achieve great things in the world of entertainment. He has demonstrated time and again an inflated view of his own talents and accomplishments in the entertainment industry. Just look at that latest blog post, he's still banging on about having choreographed some straight-to-DVD B movie and shouting from the rooftops about his association with Britney nearly 20 years ago. He is clearly far more impressed by these relatively minor accomplishments than we are, and one suspects that he is almost trying to convince himself that he's achieved more than he really has. I'm convinced that deep down, Wade is disappointed in himself and what all his hard work and sacrifice amounted to, and I think rather than accepting his own failures and owning up to the fact that maybe he's just not that talented, he instead resents his mentor for not making things happen for him.
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Post by respect77 on Apr 26, 2018 7:07:05 GMT
I know some of you guys have said before Robson sued Michael in hopes of getting millions in a quiet settlement and then winning his crap of a "case" but many of his problems derive from his mother's pressures to work in showbiz to be famous since a very young age and then add he's more likely bipolar. Bipolar people want to do many things in their manic phase but they're unable to finish because the depression kicks in. So the reasons why Robson is like this today are because of his mental issues and how his mother ruined his childhood, NOT Michael Jackson. Michael was the one who told Joy to not make her son working that hard for his age and to let him enjoy his childhood but MJ is his scapegoat because Robson does't have the balls to admit and tell his mother how she screwed him for life, Robson should have sued his mother. To be honest, I think you are being too kind to him. You're right, he clearly has mental health issues, and his mother clearly did a number on him. And the fact that she still claims to have "no regrets" in how she raised her children when Wade is so clearly psychologically damaged shows how ruthless she is and how adament she remains that she has no role to play in Wade's mental breakdowns in adulthood. To be clear, that quote where Joy said she had no regrets stems from a radio interview she gave in 2011, so before Wade's allegations. Although, now that you say it, Wade already had his first breakdown in March 2011 and according to Joy's deposition she and Amanda were wondering whether it was because she put him under too much pressure as a child. So it's not like she didn't see it already at the time that Wades breakdown and psychological issues might have to do with how she managed him as a child. Yet, she says "no regrets" in that interview. I wonder if that signals that if Wade just stuck to the true story, ie. that he broke down because of the pressure and loss of childhood at his mother's hand, Joy wouldn't have been much understanding of that and would have considered it as whining or as a failure on Wades part. So the accusation of MJ solves that too by pushing Wade in the victim role even by his mother's standards. But I agree that his main motive was money with the sexual abuse story.
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Post by Thriller on Apr 26, 2018 14:17:52 GMT
I know some of you guys have said before Robson sued Michael in hopes of getting millions in a quiet settlement and then winning his crap of a "case" but many of his problems derive from his mother's pressures to work in showbiz to be famous since a very young age and then add he's more likely bipolar. Bipolar people want to do many things in their manic phase but they're unable to finish because the depression kicks in. So the reasons why Robson is like this today are because of his mental issues and how his mother ruined his childhood, NOT Michael Jackson. Michael was the one who told Joy to not make her son working that hard for his age and to let him enjoy his childhood but MJ is his scapegoat because Robson does't have the balls to admit and tell his mother how she screwed him for life, Robson should have sued his mother. To be honest, I think you are being too kind to him. You're right, he clearly has mental health issues, and his mother clearly did a number on him. And the fact that she still claims to have "no regrets" in how she raised her children when Wade is so clearly psychologically damaged shows how ruthless she is and how adament she remains that she has no role to play in Wade's mental breakdowns in adulthood. But make no mistake, this was still all about the pursuit of $$$ for Wade. Mental health doesn't justify or absolve him of what he's done and the lies he's told in the pursuit of MJ's money. Wade places the blame on Michael I suspect out of jealousy/resentment. He was led to believe from a pushy stage mother and a motivational mentor (MJ) that he would achieve great things in the world of entertainment. He has demonstrated time and again an inflated view of his own talents and accomplishments in the entertainment industry. Just look at that latest blog post, he's still banging on about having choreographed some straight-to-DVD B movie and shouting from the rooftops about his association with Britney nearly 20 years ago. He is clearly far more impressed by these relatively minor accomplishments than we are, and one suspects that he is almost trying to convince himself that he's achieved more than he really has. I'm convinced that deep down, Wade is disappointed in himself and what all his hard work and sacrifice amounted to, and I think rather than accepting his own failures and owning up to the fact that maybe he's just not that talented, he instead resents his mentor for not making things happen for him. Not sure if you ever saw this, but what you're saying falls in line with his claims: From his original declaration: ![](https://image.ibb.co/cCJPBx/wADE1.png) Then in his 2016 amended complaint this was still on his mind: ![](https://image.ibb.co/ezZaJc/Wade2.png) He exposes himself big time with this sort of thing. Somebody telling you these things isn't a crime. It's incredible how such inspirational words are deemed to be mental manipulation. If that's the case then billions of people on this planet have been mentally manipulated when our parents, family or teachers etc have ever said things like 'if you put your mind to it, you can do anything'. I remember when I first read his declaration and this really stuck out. Such a thing is absolutely irrelevant to his claims of abuse. To me it just showed what his true issues were. He didn't fulfil the potential MJ said he could, so he decided to blame MJ for it.
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Post by Snow White on Apr 27, 2018 2:41:51 GMT
How could Robson reach his full potential if he's mentally unstable dropping out many projects? How giving words of encouragement to make dreams come true is manupulative or abusive but not how Joy forced him to work as child? If anything, Michael tried to be a good friend and mentor helping the Robsons as much as he could, one part of me is glad he's not alive to witness his disgusting betrayal.
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Post by Thriller on Apr 27, 2018 9:53:25 GMT
How could Robson reach his full potential if he's mentally unstable dropping out many projects? How giving words of encouragement to make dreams come true is manupulative or abusive but not how Joy forced him to work as child? If anything, Michael tried to be a good friend and mentor helping the Robsons as much as he could, one part of me is glad he's not alive to witness his disgusting betrayal. Imo if MJ was still here he wouldn't have filed a lawsuit. He knows with MJ no longer being here he can come out with what he likes as MJ can't defend himself. While MJ was alive Wade did nothing but defend and praise him. MJ passes, his Estate is making a fortune, and suddenly he 'realises' he was abused.
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Post by respect77 on May 1, 2018 7:59:54 GMT
Also, the interesting thing in this list is that up until the age of 19, he is nostalgic and describes a happy period in his life, other than an obligatory note of "by the way, I was sexually abused" (which is kind of odd in itself). But he doesn't seem to portray himself as traumatized, confused or anything like that which you would expect from a sexually severly abused child (remember, he claims seven years of constant abuse including anal rape). In fact, this seems to be the happiest period in his life up until around the early 2000s when he starts becoming more successful and feel more anxiety about how to keep up that success and how to fulfill the career goals he apparently set for himself.
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Post by TonyR on May 1, 2018 8:52:35 GMT
^ That is very strange.
Also, I find the 'as I remember it' line at the beginning odd.
Almost like that's some sort of disclaimer, in case of any counter-suit?
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Post by Thriller on May 1, 2018 21:15:30 GMT
^ That is very strange. Also, I find the 'as I remember it' line at the beginning odd. Almost like that's some sort of disclaimer, in case of any counter-suit? I'd doubt it. This is a man who's lied under oath, so I doubt he fears a counter-suit. Besides, when he refers to the abuse he refers to abuse by a now deceased man. The Estate can't sue for slander against MJ. Or are you referring to something else? I don't think the 'as I remember it' is anything out the ordinairy. I believe that is probably referring to him remembering his feelings regarding his career at different stages of his life.
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Post by respect77 on May 12, 2018 5:49:09 GMT
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