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Post by NatureCriminal7896 on Apr 30, 2021 9:07:44 GMT
i hope this is okay to put on the forum but there's been rumors going around saying Michael never loved Debbie and only married her because Arab sponsors and something about the history tour.
Karen Faye has already speak up about this. you got some fans who believes he only married her due to the history tour and you got others who believes he loved Debbie.
i'm one those fans who believes he really liked her and all the things about the fake wedding is a lie.
what you guys think?
leave your thoughts and opinions here.
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Post by Russg on Apr 30, 2021 9:24:12 GMT
She was a rent-a-womb. Apparently Katherine didn't want him to have children out of wedlock so he married Debbie to appease her wishes.
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Post by TonyR on Apr 30, 2021 10:04:22 GMT
Is that another name for Air BnB?
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Post by MattyJam on Apr 30, 2021 10:22:10 GMT
Is that another name for Air BnB? That's what Jonathan Ross calls it.
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Post by elusivemoonwalker on Apr 30, 2021 14:36:34 GMT
Dunno. I never asked himπ€ͺ
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Post by pg13 on Apr 30, 2021 16:14:10 GMT
Debbie described herself as Michael's thoroughbred and that she was artificially inseminated as I recall.
If this was a proper marriage as opposed to an arrangement, why is it Michael never actually lived with Debbie as a family?
He did with Lisa and her children. Debbie confirmed to the court during their custody battle they never lived together. I seem to recall the retired judge who initially handled the case between MJ and Debbie saying it was "an arranged deal from the beginning."
It seems more likely that Michael married Debbie in order to gain automatic custody of Prince and, therefore, Paris. Unmarried fathers do not get automatic custody in California.
Michael obviously wanted Prince and Paris, but Debbie? Nah.
Marrying Debbie had nothing to do with Katherine Jackson- Michael hadn't done what Katherine wanted since he left for Neverland, for a start!
And nothing to do with Prince Alawaleed or whatever his name is.
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Post by NatureCriminal7896 on Jun 6, 2021 23:07:02 GMT
nowadays deddie claims she loved the children and wanted custody of them when Michael passed. anyways whatever she feels now is too late. the kids are now adults.
i really wish Michael was more careful what he was getting in to. i'm not saying it was bad idea for him to have kids i'm just saying he should of been more careful who wanted to have kids with and the downfall etc.
Michael was an great dad but letting just anybody have your kids sounds off to me. i mean, why would i want kids with someone i don't even feel right about.
that also make me think about lisa. was he going the same way for lisa too? because they claim they loved each other but when she said she didn't want kids with him he got disappointed in her.
it sounds to me Michael didn't really accept an woman choice. if it's true what lisa said then Michael was kind of butthole and that's coming from an fan.
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Post by Russg on Jun 7, 2021 7:34:49 GMT
nowadays deddie claims she loved the children and wanted custody of them when Michael passed. anyways whatever she feels now is too late. the kids are now adults. i really wish Michael was more careful what he was getting in to. i'm not saying it was bad idea for him to have kids i'm just saying he should of been more careful who wanted to have kids with and the downfall etc. Michael was an great dad but letting just anybody have your kids sounds off to me. i mean, why would i want kids with someone i don't even feel right about. that also make me think about lisa. was he going the same way for lisa too? because they claim they loved each other but when she said she didn't want kids with him he got disappointed in her. it sounds to me Michael didn't really accept an woman choice. if it's true what lisa said then Michael was kind of butthole and that's coming from an fan. The fact that Prince wants nothing to do with her speaks volumes. I know Paris has a relationship with her, but Prince is the more switched on of the two and obviously has her number.
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Post by NatureCriminal7896 on Jan 20, 2024 14:08:17 GMT
my opinion is still the same after almost 3 years but has changed.
yeah Michael didn't love Debbie he just saw her as his nurse, friend, and to have kids. it's has been said that Michael at first didn't like the idea Debbie being a surrogate but since he was upset Lisa Marie said no to having kids he went with the idea. it's also has been said that Debbie and him did have intercourse even though Michael didn't love her Debbie did have a crush on him. while i don't agree he choose to do that.
after the kids were born Debbie said she didn't want to get too attached to the kids because she knew she did it just for Michael to have kids. she did get attached to the kids and Michael and Michael got disappointed because he was just using her to have his kids.
while i can understand Debbie became attached to the kids and Michael. in my opinion she shouldn't have went with it if she knew Michael didn't love her. yes she felt bad for him. i guess he choose Debbie because she did like him. i may not agree with Debbie or Lisa Marie when it comes to somethings but Michael was wrong.
i understand Michael desperately wanted kids but this wasn't it.
in my opinion i don't agree with Michael knocking up every woman on the planet but it was his choice. i think Michael wanted kids and didn't care who he got knocked up. whatever he loved it the woman or not.
i feel it could have been best for him to get with a woman who didn't love him not hate him which he did do with Debbie but she liked it him more than a friend.
now as someone who black and many blacks have said before why he didn't get a black surrogate? some may disagree but for someone who loves their race and culture they would do it swiftly.
still love MJ this is my opinion.
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Post by NatureCriminal7896 on Jan 20, 2024 14:19:07 GMT
some fans do believe Michael loved Debbie. i use to think this but don't anymore. he did may as a friend but not as a wife. i do believe he loved Lisa Marie in my opinion.
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Post by butterflies2 on Jan 20, 2024 18:28:52 GMT
I thought that when I was a kid, but now, not so much. He was still hanging out with Lisa while married to Debbie
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Post by Michaelounet on Jan 28, 2024 17:59:41 GMT
I have heard several stories about this.
1. Michael liked Debbie as a friend but was forced by his mother to marry her, probably to prevent children from being born out of wedlock.
2. Teddy Riley said Michael wanted to marry her in the late 80s and the song "Remember The Time" was about that.
To be taken with a grain of salt obviously.
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Post by MattyJam on Jan 28, 2024 18:04:11 GMT
I have heard several stories about this. 1. Michael liked Debbie as a friend but was forced by his mother to marry her, probably to prevent children from being born out of wedlock. 2. Teddy Riley said Michael wanted to marry her in the late 80s and the song "Remember The Time" was about that. To be taken with a grain of salt obviously. Welcome to the board Michaelounet. π
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Post by Michaelounet on Jan 28, 2024 18:06:24 GMT
Thank you so much ^^
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Post by respect77 on Jan 29, 2024 4:12:32 GMT
I have heard several stories about this. 1. Michael liked Debbie as a friend but was forced by his mother to marry her, probably to prevent children from being born out of wedlock. 2. Teddy Riley said Michael wanted to marry her in the late 80s and the song "Remember The Time" was about that. To be taken with a grain of salt obviously. That was BS by Teddy that he just made up. That actually became evident when a few years later a fan asked him about whether RTT was about Debbie, and he (forgetting his earlier lie about it) said "hell, no!"
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