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Post by WildStyle on Jun 29, 2021 17:07:42 GMT
I just want like... a Victory concert on DVD or something. Don't even feel bold enough to ask for a blu-ray at this point. FFS.
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Post by NatureCriminal7896 on Jun 29, 2021 21:01:22 GMT
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Post by NatureCriminal7896 on Jun 29, 2021 21:13:43 GMT
even though i'm not interested in this musical. i wish the young man the best.
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Post by NatureCriminal7896 on Jun 29, 2021 22:45:57 GMT
Opening Night is now February 1, 2022....
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Post by amaya on Jun 29, 2021 22:50:36 GMT
Probably rather a bad sign if the intended star of the show is leaving and replaced by an unknown actor. I really don't expect anything good from this production. It's doomed since Nottage expressed her support for Wade and James. The only unfortunate thing is that the media will act like it's MJ's failure and evidence that he's cancelled. Never mind that his sales and streams are soaring higher than even before LN. Same here. It's a shame because I thought a Broadway musical about Michael was a great idea. Now it and any other future projects have been spoiled forever due to LN and the people involved and there's nothing that can be done about it. Hope those fuckers are proud of themselves.
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Post by NatureCriminal7896 on Jun 29, 2021 23:09:29 GMT
i hope and pray it's does good. if not we are screwed. even though i'm not interested there are fans who are. so at this point i'm like let's see what's happens.
there's alot good people who disagree with things and still make good content so i'm not off Nottage butt yet but if she does this musical without bringing up the false allegations then she get a free pass from me.
but first i have see reviews from fans and non fans alike before i do that.
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Post by NatureCriminal7896 on Jun 29, 2021 23:24:01 GMT
here's some news updates it takes place in the Dangerous Tour era, but it tells his story from the beginning. there's 25 songs are in the show no one knows what they are yet. also no ones know if the show will have acts or not.
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Post by NatureCriminal7896 on Jun 29, 2021 23:41:32 GMT
as an thriller and bad era fan this doesn't bother me too much my only worry how they gonna do it. does it start off Michael just opening up the dangerous tour and singing or does it start with Michael hearing about allegations and goes back to his childhood and life from there.
if it's starts out Michael just opening up the dangerous tour and singing. then i'm actually okay with it. kind of sucks for dangerous fans though because we do not know will any dangerous songs or events will be in show.
i'm okay with this if they don't bring up the allegations.
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Post by NatureCriminal7896 on Jun 30, 2021 1:28:24 GMT
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Post by respect77 on Jun 30, 2021 4:30:23 GMT
Probably rather a bad sign if the intended star of the show is leaving and replaced by an unknown actor. I really don't expect anything good from this production. It's doomed since Nottage expressed her support for Wade and James. The only unfortunate thing is that the media will act like it's MJ's failure and evidence that he's cancelled. Never mind that his sales and streams are soaring higher than even before LN. Same here. It's a shame because I thought a Broadway musical about Michael was a great idea. Now it and any other future projects have been spoiled forever due to LN and the people involved and there's nothing that can be done about it. Hope those fuckers are proud of themselves. I don't agree that any future MJ project is spoiled because of LN. I was talking about this specific project. A lot of fans won't support someone who expressed she believes MJ was guilty but writes his life story for a musical. It's awkward. If she believes he's guilty she should have resigned. If you look at MJ's sales, streams, the Vegas show etc there is no reason for a general doom and gloom and say that everything forever is spoiled now. If anything MJ's legacy survived LN with hardly a scratch. His streams, radio plays dropped only for like a month after LN, then they got back to normal and even surpassed pre-LN numbers. It's a current news that in the first half year of 2021 Thriller sold 100,000 copies in the US. Pre-LN, I remember Thriller typically sold about 100,000 over a year, not half a year like now. Now, beyond Nottage, a snobby, typically white upper middle class liberal culture like Broadway perhaps isn't the best environment for an MJ musical in this era where the woke like nothing more than to virtue signal, but I really don't think the conclusion we draw from it should be that everything having to do with MJ is forever spoiled now. This is probably the narrative the media will push if the Broadway musical flops, but there's nothing supporting the claim that it has to do with more than just this specific project. ONE in Vegas has been doing fine before it was locked down due to Covid-19. And now it's one of the first shows Cirque decided to bring back.
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Post by HIStoric on Jun 30, 2021 6:34:45 GMT
I just want like... a Victory concert on DVD or something. Don't even feel bold enough to ask for a blu-ray at this point. FFS. I wouldn't really mind location-specific projects like this musical (or MJ ONE) if they also focused on releases that fans everywhere can enjoy.
At least with Immortal they toured the world and gave everyone a remix album to enjoy.
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Post by MattyJam on Jun 30, 2021 18:52:29 GMT
Same here. It's a shame because I thought a Broadway musical about Michael was a great idea. Now it and any other future projects have been spoiled forever due to LN and the people involved and there's nothing that can be done about it. Hope those fuckers are proud of themselves. I don't agree that any future MJ project is spoiled because of LN. I was talking about this specific project. A lot of fans won't support someone who expressed she believes MJ was guilty but writes his life story for a musical. It's awkward. If she believes he's guilty she should have resigned. If you look at MJ's sales, streams, the Vegas show etc there is no reason for a general doom and gloom and say that everything forever is spoiled now. If anything MJ's legacy survived LN with hardly a scratch. His streams, radio plays dropped only for like a month after LN, then they got back to normal and even surpassed pre-LN numbers. It's a current news that in the first half year of 2021 Thriller sold 100,000 copies in the US. Pre-LN, I remember Thriller typically sold about 100,000 over a year, not half a year like now. Now, beyond Nottage, a snobby, typically white upper middle class liberal culture like Broadway perhaps isn't the best environment for an MJ musical in this era where the woke like nothing more than to virtue signal, but I really don't think the conclusion we draw from it should be that everything having to do with MJ is forever spoiled now. This is probably the narrative the media will push if the Broadway musical flops, but there's nothing supporting the claim that it has to do with more than just this specific project. ONE in Vegas has been doing fine before it was locked down due to Covid-19. And now it's one of the first shows Cirque decided to bring back. I count myself in that group. I refuse to support any product where the estate has actively worked with someone who could believe MJ was capable of such a heinous crime. I'm not saying Lynn Nottage is a bad person, people are entitled to believe whatever they like about MJ, but I feel very strongly that his estate shouldn't be working with people who publicly express these sentiments. My issue here lies with the estate, not Lynn Nottage. They should have more respect for Michael than to collaborate with people who believe he is a serial child molester.
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Post by respect77 on Jun 30, 2021 19:26:29 GMT
I don't agree that any future MJ project is spoiled because of LN. I was talking about this specific project. A lot of fans won't support someone who expressed she believes MJ was guilty but writes his life story for a musical. It's awkward. If she believes he's guilty she should have resigned. If you look at MJ's sales, streams, the Vegas show etc there is no reason for a general doom and gloom and say that everything forever is spoiled now. If anything MJ's legacy survived LN with hardly a scratch. His streams, radio plays dropped only for like a month after LN, then they got back to normal and even surpassed pre-LN numbers. It's a current news that in the first half year of 2021 Thriller sold 100,000 copies in the US. Pre-LN, I remember Thriller typically sold about 100,000 over a year, not half a year like now. Now, beyond Nottage, a snobby, typically white upper middle class liberal culture like Broadway perhaps isn't the best environment for an MJ musical in this era where the woke like nothing more than to virtue signal, but I really don't think the conclusion we draw from it should be that everything having to do with MJ is forever spoiled now. This is probably the narrative the media will push if the Broadway musical flops, but there's nothing supporting the claim that it has to do with more than just this specific project. ONE in Vegas has been doing fine before it was locked down due to Covid-19. And now it's one of the first shows Cirque decided to bring back. I count myself in that group. I refuse to support any product where the estate has actively worked with someone who could believe MJ was capable of such a heinous crime. I'm not saying Lynn Nottage is a bad person, people are entitled to believe whatever they like about MJ, but I feel very strongly that his estate shouldn't be working with people who publicly express these sentiments. My issue here lies with the estate, not Lynn Nottage. They should have more respect for Michael than to collaborate with people who believe he is a serial child molester. Also how can someone who so fundamentally misunderstands him credibly write about his life?
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Post by MattyJam on Jun 30, 2021 19:32:20 GMT
I count myself in that group. I refuse to support any product where the estate has actively worked with someone who could believe MJ was capable of such a heinous crime. I'm not saying Lynn Nottage is a bad person, people are entitled to believe whatever they like about MJ, but I feel very strongly that his estate shouldn't be working with people who publicly express these sentiments. My issue here lies with the estate, not Lynn Nottage. They should have more respect for Michael than to collaborate with people who believe he is a serial child molester. Also how can someone who so fundamentally misunderstands him credibly write about his life? Good point. This says to me everything I need to know about John Branca and John Mcclain. Imagine the very people you entrusted with your will, financial legacy and childrens inheritance having no qualms employing someone who believes you committed the single most heinous crime there is to tell your life story. The disrespect is disgusting.
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Post by ash on Jun 30, 2021 20:27:33 GMT
Well, they probably think the same thing
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