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Post by Snow White on Sept 17, 2017 1:43:03 GMT
That's horrible, I'm not even a fan of rats but when I saw that lady smashing them to kill them I couldn't watch anymore. I've just had a cat but I've seen some of my grandmother's and even not all of them like to eat rats, so if some kitties don't like them as food, many of us humans would be more aversed to do so.
I know it's not the same context of Judaism and Islam but Christianity/Catholicism claims red meat is impure so we must abstent to eat red meat during the Lent and not drinking alcohol either. The problem with such ridiculous requirement is that people overprice seafood but people buy anyway.
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Post by LindavG on Sept 17, 2017 12:35:07 GMT
So you don't eat shellfish because it's an abomination? (Lev 9:11-12) Just kidding! I know you are kidding, but my reason is actually a lot more down-to-Earth. Simply, in my country shellfish is not a part of traditional cuisine (we have no sea), so growing up we never ate shellfish and whenever I had the chance to try it I chickened out of it because to me it seemed weird and even disgusting. LOL. So I can see how it may be the same with pork for people who grew up in Jewish/Muslim cultures, even if they aren't religious themselves. Oh and I wouldn't try this either. LOL. You are missing out though. Mussels with French fries, pasta marinara, shrimp salad... yum! It does taste best when it's fresh though. Not sure I would try seafood in Hungary either, you don't know where it comes from or how long it's been out of the sea Perhaps that's where the prohibition on shellfish from the Bible comes from too. It can make you violently ill if it's not preserved properly so the authors of Leviticus 2500 years ago may have thought it best to ban shellfish altogether. Rats I think are a different story because they are known to carry diseases and hang around unsavoury places. When I think of rats I think of sewers, corpses and trash so the thought of eating them is disgusting to me. Cats and dogs are kept as human companions so I wouldn't eat them for that reason. I also don't understand how people can raise an animal on a farm (whether it's a cow, pig, chicken), give it a name and take care of it for years, and then slaughter it and eat its flesh. That's almost like cannibalism to me.
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Post by speedd3mon on Sept 17, 2017 19:15:35 GMT
Michael wasn't an atheist (or so it seems) Just kidding, everybody's got their view on the world.
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Post by dancingmjsdream on Sept 17, 2017 19:36:32 GMT
Yeah MJ was very religious. But also a deep thinker and very intelligent, I often wonder if he was ever critical or sceptical of some things in the Bible.
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Post by speedd3mon on Sept 17, 2017 19:42:37 GMT
Yeah MJ was very religious. But also a deep thinker and very intelligent, I often wonder if he was ever critical or sceptical of some things in the Bible. He must have been, but he was far more spiritual than religious. Of course he never criticized the Bible publicly. As far as spirituality goes I think he was a genius.
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Post by respect77 on Sept 18, 2017 9:06:53 GMT
Yeah MJ was very religious. But also a deep thinker and very intelligent, I often wonder if he was ever critical or sceptical of some things in the Bible. In his conversations with the rabbi he does show some scepticism and criticism towards some things in the Bible. What I specifically remember is that he couldn't get his head around the story of God deliberately tempting Adam and Even to sin and then punishing them for it.
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Post by Snow White on Sept 18, 2017 12:26:31 GMT
^^I also remember he expressed scepticism about Adam, Eve and Cain populating the Earth wondering if it was through incest, 🤮 which is something that any thinking human being would wonder. He couldn't conceive either how god allowed the suffering and killing of innocent children and told a story about children traveling by plane to be adopted but the plane crashed and killed them saying also along the lines how that made karma a bunch of crap that someone made it up.
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Sept 18, 2017 15:04:13 GMT
I don't really understand why someone would just accept what's in the bible, a book that was written by people with much less of an understanding of the world than we have now. I also don't believe Michael was very religous beyond the 90's. He may have still believed in a God but I think he definitely abandoned organised religion.
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Post by respect77 on Sept 18, 2017 16:11:31 GMT
Here it is.
Michael Jackson (MJ) : But [what doesn’t make sense to me is that God] tested them [with the forbidden fruit]. And if you are God you should know the outcome. And if you are God, why test if you create a perfect being that should not be able to do any wrong? And why judge and thrust such anger on them and run them away and tempt them with a snake? Would God do such thing? Would I do that to your children? No I wouldn’t. I am not here trying to judge God or criticize him in any way. But sometimes I think it is a symbolism to teach us certain lesson. I don’t know if it really happened. I wouldn’t wake your little baby or any of them and have something see if they would do right or wrong.
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(MJ) : And then to have two kids [Cain and Abel]…was it incest? And they were two boys, how did they have children?
On the other hand, in another conversation he used that misguided creationist argument about the watchmaker.
I think he was religious, generally believed in God but I guess over time he became less dogmatic compared to the Jehova's Witnesses he belong to in the 80s, and he dared to question some things in the Bible and saw that the Bible cannot be literally true, at the very least. I think, for him, with his good heart, it was also difficult to accept the cruel God that is portrayed in the Bible, so maybe that's what eventually led him to not literally and/or not fully accept the Bible as the word of God, but I think he still remained a believer, but in a less dogmatic way.
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Post by respect77 on Jan 3, 2018 18:21:16 GMT
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Post by respect77 on Jan 3, 2018 18:43:13 GMT
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Post by Liberian Girl on Jan 4, 2018 15:25:05 GMT
Yeah MJ was very religious. But also a deep thinker and very intelligent, I often wonder if he was ever critical or sceptical of some things in the Bible. Good point.
Truth is (something I think many people can forget) is that you can believe there is something more, like a higher power of some sort (like God) without subscribing to a particular religion.
I am not a member of any church but I believe in God. I think the two issues can be separate.
I always find it surprising when people (I've seen it on a lot of Facebook discussions recently) say they don't believe God can exist because of how flawed the Bible is. I mean, wow. People don't believe in God because of an old, antiquated book that men wrote - seems an unfair system to base your belief on. Of course old books about men's experiences will be flawed. IF there is a God, He would be so BEYOND any of our current understanding and science and world that to base his existence on any book is a tad silly, I think.
I often akin it to hamsters in a cage. The hamsters are alive, living their life, existing in their world (i.e the cage). They can eventually learn about their home, their environment, the smell, the textures, the food, the air they breathe - but to them, the world almost stops outside of the room/cage they are in. They have NO IDEA there is a street, a town, a city and a whole WORLD beyond their understanding but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. They just have no way of seeing it. That's how I view our world and God. My gut instinct tells me a higher power of some sort is involved in life/world/creation, but I don't expect to understand it by sitting in my house and reading a few science books/bibles. I accept it is beyond my comprehension and that I will never know fully, either way. I just go by my gut and what makes sense to me.
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Post by respect77 on Jan 4, 2018 15:35:28 GMT
Of course, you can not believe in the Bible or the Quran or any scripture and still believe in God. Everyone can make up an idea of a god in their mind that makes them feel comfortable. Your neighbor may have his idea of a god as well, which may be totally contradictory to yours. Which shows how subjective belief is.
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Post by respect77 on Jan 4, 2018 17:06:38 GMT
This thread upsets me so much: www.lipstickalley.com/threads/my-4-year-old-is-scaring-me.1380144/Look at all the people saying he is possessed by demons, he has seen ghosts, he is reincarnated, he needs a medium, prayer and all that kind of crap. That's the majority of the replies. Instead of telling the woman to take the son to a doctor if the story is true. Sometimes it feels like people are still in the freaking Middle Ages mentally.
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Post by Snow White on Jan 4, 2018 17:46:48 GMT
I'm not an expert but I've read and heard it's common for children to have night terrors but if the child's case is something more serious such as psychotic episodes or hallucinations, she should seek psychiatric help instead. How irresponsible of the posters to tell her about exorcism and mediums when these kind of people have been proven charlatan that just take advantage of people's ignorance and desperation.
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