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Post by ghost on Jan 31, 2023 18:19:19 GMT
I don't understand why some fans still put Debbie Rowe on a pedestal (well, I guess it's because she's the mother of MJ's kids). This woman seems to have been as bad of an influence on MJ as Arnold Klein - she just has a tiny bit more of a conscience. To me Debbie is no different from the other vultures around Michael. No wonder Lisa and Michael didn't make it. The only people in favor of the relationship was MJ's family. Priscilla, Danny, Scientology were all in Lisa's ear about being with Michael. MJ had Karen badmouthing Lisa by her own admission, Debbie was trying to "help" him have a kid even tough he was married. It's very sad. What might have been if people had just let them be. I think Lisa was right. I don't think they would have divorced if they could have just gotten together ALONE to work it out. I really hate that it has ended this way with Lisa. I think she would have probably revealed so much more about the relationship in her book. Debbie Rowe crying while talking about how MJ and Lisa deserved to be reunited in heaven was hilarious to me. Now she's the victim?  Give me a break. Agree with every word. And it's not like Debbie offered to have MJs baby out of the goodness of her heart, she was out for a big payday. MJ only married her because Katherine didn't want the baby born out of wedlock allegedly. |
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Post by Snow White on Feb 1, 2023 0:12:20 GMT
Debbie came out in that clip horribly, interfering in Michael's marriage but Lisa shouldn't have promised to give Michael children in the beginning and then changing her mind, I mean, she didn't have a problem to have more children with a nobody that turned out to be a scrounger who was after her fortune. That's why Debbie was in his ear so easily.
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Post by butterflies2 on Feb 1, 2023 0:24:47 GMT
Debbie came out in that clip horribly, interfering in Michael's marriage but Lisa shouldn't have promised to give Michael children in the beginning and then changing her mind, I mean, she didn't have a problem to have more children with a nobody that turned out to be a scrounger who was after her fortune. That's why Debbie was in his ear so easily. Her body, her choice. If she didn’t want to have his kid, that’s not on him, she didn’t owe him that. |
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Post by Snow White on Feb 1, 2023 0:28:20 GMT
^^Her choice I agree but she shouldn't have made a promise she couldn't keep in the first place.
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Post by butterflies2 on Feb 1, 2023 0:39:38 GMT
^^Her choice I agree but she shouldn't have made a promise she couldn't keep in the first place. She is allowed to change her mind you know, if you’ve been in a relationship, you would understand. No offense |
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Post by Snow White on Feb 1, 2023 1:25:11 GMT
^^Her choice I agree but she shouldn't have made a promise she couldn't keep in the first place. She is allowed to change her mind you know, if you’ve been in a relationship, you would understand. No offense She should have told him that and not taking contraceptives behind his back but I guess he'd have filed for divorce sooner. If you're in a relationship as you said, the decision of wanting to have children or not should come to an agreement on both parties. I don't want to have children myself, I'd rather end up the relationship than wasting my significant other's time if I find out he wanted children but I don't. |
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Post by butterflies2 on Feb 1, 2023 1:58:16 GMT
He nor anyone should never have a say on what she does with her body either way. Let’s agree to disagree from here on
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Post by respect77 on Feb 1, 2023 2:31:57 GMT
She is allowed to change her mind you know, if you’ve been in a relationship, you would understand. No offense She should have told him that and not taking contraceptives behind his back but I guess he'd have filed for divorce sooner. If you're in a relationship as you said, the decision of wanting to have children or not should come to an agreement on both parties. I don't want to have children myself, I'd rather end up the relationship than wasting my significant other's time if I find out he wanted children but I don't. This taking contraceptives BEHIND HIS BACK thing is nothing but a fan rumour, as far as I know. I also don't believe Lisa didn't want children with him at all. It was just that she didn't at the time because she felt their relationship was on shaky ground and she wanted it to be stable before they have children. So I don't believe she made that promise with the intention of breaking it. |
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Post by butterflies2 on Feb 1, 2023 2:33:15 GMT
She should have told him that and not taking contraceptives behind his back but I guess he'd have filed for divorce sooner. If you're in a relationship as you said, the decision of wanting to have children or not should come to an agreement on both parties. I don't want to have children myself, I'd rather end up the relationship than wasting my significant other's time if I find out he wanted children but I don't. This taking contraceptives BEHIND HIS BACK thing is nothing but a fan rumour, as far as I know. I also don't believe Lisa didn't want children with him at all. It was just that she didn't at the time because she felt their relationship was on shaky ground and she wanted it to be stable before they have children. Exactly this |
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Post by Michaels Lover on Feb 1, 2023 18:17:08 GMT
Today would have been Lisa’s 55th birthday. My wish is to protect my three grandchildren and keep our family together.
From the first moment I held Lisa in my arms, I’ve protected, loved and guided her, as I have my son. Our hearts are broken, and I am having to learn to live without my only daughter. We truly love all of you, and we feel your prayers. Thank you so much for caring so deeply for our family. 🌹
-Priscilla Presley
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Post by respect77 on Feb 1, 2023 21:01:29 GMT
Debbie was in a Fox/TMZ "documentary" earlier this week. That in itself is a bit bizarre, but here are her parts:
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Post by SoCav on Feb 1, 2023 22:28:58 GMT
Debbie was in a Fox/TMZ "documentary" earlier this week. That in itself is a bit bizarre, but here are her parts:
Yes Debbie, it's so strange that Lisa Marie did not realize that you offering to have MJ's kid was actually a loving gesture towards her. She could have focused on her career! Whatever makes her sleep at night (next to Mark Schaffel), I guess. |
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Post by Michaels Lover on Feb 2, 2023 9:46:02 GMT
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Post by respect77 on Feb 2, 2023 18:03:06 GMT
He pretty much seems to shade Priscilla.
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Post by respect77 on Feb 3, 2023 4:09:31 GMT
I knew Priscilla wasn't mother of the century, but I didn't expect her to sink this low. It seems to me now, just like MJ was used as a cash cow by his family all his life, while his emotional needs being neglected since childhood, Lisa had a very similar relationship with Priscilla. When she was a child and teenager she was no just dropped off at various broading schools and Scientology facilities by her mother, so that she doesn't have to deal with her.
So sad.
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Give me a break. 
