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Post by aazzaabb on Jun 28, 2023 21:57:23 GMT
She strikes me as someone who’s surrounded by yes people. I never felt right about her doing this tour but I played along for a few reasons. Sure, we may be a bit jumpy, but there may also be a sort of self fulfilling prophecy effect. Madonna is of the same lineage as MJ, Prince, Whitney etc but she’s also aware of it. Her legacy is important to her and without wanting to be presumptuous she understands the value of a dead star at her level of fame. I’m not saying for a second that she wants to be dead, just that she possibly has a self destructive side to her that plays into an inevitability about her life. I really hope she gets through this and it’s just a scare and that it’s enough of a sign for her to realise that it’s time to call it a day. I remember an interview she gave back in the late 90s where she was talking about MJ and Prince and about how they were surrounded by yes men and she actively sought out people who would piss her off and disagree with her, because she didn't want to be like that. I definitely think somewhere along the way, she's lost sight of that and it's hard not to look at what we know of her life as an outsider looking in and not strongly suspect she too has succumbed to yes men, sycophants and enablers. Maybe they crept in slowly over a longer period of time, biding their time until she was at her most vulnerable before infiltrating her inner circle. There's definitely been a vibe about her these last 5-6yrs which wasn't there before. Something just seems 'off'. Yup, you’re spot on in pretty much everything you’ve said here. Sycophants and enablers worm their way in eventually. After the Rebel Heart era there’s been something off about her in my honest opinion. Russg makes a good point to in that if it is a bacterial infection it could be due to another surgery. I’m only speculating of course but you could see this shit a mile off.
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Post by amaya on Jun 29, 2023 2:19:31 GMT
Holy shit... I don't keep up with her (aside from her occasional posts about Michael), so I had no idea she was having problems. I hope she can recover quickly.
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Post by butterflies2 on Jun 29, 2023 4:11:18 GMT
I was getting the same vibes as mj postponing this is it too and hoped she wouldn’t be next too. She’s one of the first artists I got into so it would be devastating. I have a ticket to her tour but it may be better to cancel. She’s been off the past few years since Madame X and I was turned off by her Instagram but I feel for her
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Post by NatureCriminal7896 on Jun 29, 2023 4:21:30 GMT
i think she going to be okay. it didn't get into her bloodstream if it did it could have been life threatening.
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Post by Russg on Jul 3, 2023 1:23:15 GMT
Let us know you're ok, gurl. Flash us a titty.
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Post by NatureCriminal7896 on Jul 4, 2023 9:21:34 GMT
from sources saying she okay and at home. look like she trying to compete with younger artists.
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Post by aazzaabb on Jul 4, 2023 10:53:56 GMT
from sources saying she okay and at home. look like she trying to compete with younger artists. Can you confirm this? There’s been all sorts of wild rumours flying about all morning including some speculation that she would be wearing prosthetic boobs for the tour and that they might need to use a body double on stage. Can you confirm this? Some are even saying that the real Madonna died in the 90’s when there was some sort of accident with a rubber apparatus!
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Post by Russg on Jul 6, 2023 5:56:23 GMT
You Don’t Say….
Bacterial infection is obviously just PR spin. This was an overdose.
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Post by ghost on Jul 6, 2023 6:01:33 GMT
^^^ Firstly, you can't trust Radar Online. Secondly, even if it's true that was revived with a narcan injection, it still doesn't undermine her having a bacterial infection.
Besides, aren't the recovery times for an overdose usually pretty quick? Unless she's going through a private rehab/detox, then I still think the bacterial infection makes more sense.
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Post by Russg on Jul 6, 2023 6:10:01 GMT
^^^ Firstly, you can't trust Radar Online. Secondly, even if it's true that was revived with a narcan injection, it still doesn't undermine her having a bacterial infection. Besides, aren't the recovery times for an overdose usually pretty quick? Unless she's going through a private rehab/detox, then I still think the bacterial infection makes more sense. Wake up.Who leaves a low-grade fever to get so bad they're unresponsive? Makes no sense. Whilst that article is saying Narcan is also used in cases of toxic shock or bad infections, her management/PR likely concocted that version when looking for ways to cover for the use of Narcan if that got to the press, which of course it has.
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Post by aazzaabb on Jul 6, 2023 9:22:59 GMT
Id honestly prefer the tour be scrapped altogether and Madonna just rest for the remainder of the year and take time off. Maybe in the new year focus on assembling everything for her back catalog deluxe releases and possibly a few new tracks. She doesn’t need to tour anymore. She’s put on some of the best tours of all time. There’s nothing to prove.
I really hope her manger and others don’t pressure her into it at this stage. Surely this can be regarded as a poor health issue and get her out of any contract she may be locked into? In this instance it’s frustrating the way money drives these tours and the amount of people who will be depending on it for income. People should be put out of joint and it should be scrapped.
She’s too old to be putting in 12 hour days at dance rehearsals. She doesn’t have some sort of super power that makes her able to do what others her age can’t. She’s a mere mortal like anyone else.
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Post by MattyJam on Jul 6, 2023 11:51:15 GMT
I hate to agree with Russg here, but I too thought this was an overdose from day one.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2023 12:11:39 GMT
Isn't she regularly just smoking weed in her insta stories? Or is she doing worse? I know weed doesn't make you act as completely bizarre and odd as she comes across in her shares.
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Post by aazzaabb on Jul 6, 2023 22:06:58 GMT
I hate to agree with Russg here, but I too thought this was an overdose from day one. Same. We’ll never know I guess. With touring I suppose there’s always that temptation of one more big payday but Madonna hardly needs the money and she doesn’t have the financial tanglings that MJ had. I don’t know. Why even bring that stress on herself? Unless there’s people in the background manipulating her into it for their own gain. And doctor feel goods keeping her up. I do hope I’m wrong and getting carried away with a wild imagination but you never really know do you.
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Post by ghost on Jul 6, 2023 23:05:37 GMT
I hate to agree with Russg here, but I too thought this was an overdose from day one. Same. We’ll never know I guess. With touring I suppose there’s always that temptation of one more big payday but Madonna hardly needs the money and she doesn’t have the financial tanglings that MJ had. I don’t know. Why even bring that stress on herself? Unless there’s people in the background manipulating her into it for their own gain. And doctor feel goods keeping her up. I do hope I’m wrong and getting carried away with a wild imagination but you never really know do you. I don't know what to believe in all honesty. If it is drug-related, I kind of wish she would be straight with people and admit to what happened. I know it's none of our business, but people care about her and nobody wants to be lied to. I read someone saying if it got out that she OD'd it would invalidate the insurance of the tour... who knows... The whole thing is very sad, as she is the last true great music icon imho. She has given so much over the years and IF it is drugs I'd be so angry. Not at her, but at the industry for allowing this to happen AGAIN. Maybe I'm naive but I'm holding out hope that it really was a bacterial infection, because I just don't want to believe that she would go down the same route as MJ, Elvis, Prince etc, surrounded by vipers, enablers, doctor feelgoods and sycophants.
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