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Post by Russg on Mar 20, 2018 3:27:57 GMT
Is that really TJs son calling Bigi a faggot? How do we know this? You can't see the person on the video. It could be anybody.
Either way, whether this is actual bullying or just boys playing around, it's still sad that homophobia is still used as a way for males to exert power over each other.
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Post by mjjfan810 on Mar 24, 2018 11:13:11 GMT
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Post by respect77 on Mar 31, 2018 5:35:28 GMT
The story with Royal an Bigi. Royal posted these. (Apparently he deleted the comments since.) Despite of him protesting in these post about being jealous, he actually sounds jealous in the first two posts. And working for his own money? He lives in a home paid for by MJ's Estate. LOL. And don't they have adults around them? Someone with enough sense to tell these kids not to take family issues online - starting with the videos that Royal posted and started this?
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Post by mjjfan810 on Mar 31, 2018 12:46:40 GMT
The story with Royal an Bigi. Royal posted these. (Apparently he deleted the comments since.) Despite of him protesting in these post about being jealous, he actually sounds jealous in the first two posts. And working for his own money? He lives in a home paid for by MJ's Estate. LOL. And don't they have adults around them? Someone with enough sense to tell these kids not to take family issues online - starting with the videos that Royal posted and started this? He comes across as very immature for an eighteen year old, and obviously completely naive/ignorant to how much he actually lives off MJs dime. He should enjoy it while it lasts, because one day the estate won't be funding their lifestyle and he will be forced to support himself and you just know that he's going to be in for a major reality shock. Despite claims to the contrary, his entitlement shines through, his whole expectation that fans should be remotely interested in him... it's quite scary just how deluded he is. It's growing up with this kind of entitlement that can lead to the Wade Robsons of this world. I dare say, if he were 20yrs older, I would be worried about where this may lead once he is forced to start living in the real world. I dunno, maybe I'm being harsh, perhaps he's just got some growing up to do.
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Post by ghost on Mar 31, 2018 12:59:51 GMT
Tito's broke grandson says there's "nothing to be jealous of" about Michael's son and the legal heir to his millions. LOL. Colour me sceptical.
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Post by Russg on Mar 31, 2018 15:30:28 GMT
Bigi laughing it off and acting like its no big deal doesn't mean anything. If I saw two random boys in the park and one of them was repeatedly calling the other a faggot, I would think exactly the same thing as I thought in this video.
Whether Bigi was upset by this incident is not the point (he may well have been but is shrugging it off and pretending it's no big deal - which is what a lot of bullied teenage boys do, I did exactly the same when I was bullied in school).
Royal is old enough to know that this kind of language is grossly offensive in private, and uploading it into the public arena was a foolish thing to do, and only exposed what a nasty little person he's grown to become.
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Post by milo on Mar 31, 2018 20:23:58 GMT
MJ’s children and TJ’s family (including Royal) are in Las Vegas for Easter week, probably paid by The Estate. Bigi is a teenager who is supported by his own father’s money, Royal is living off his great-uncle’s money. Royal needs to accept that people will always be interested in Bigi because Bigi is MJ’s son. If he doesn’t want people to ask for Bigi on his social accounts, he shouldn’t tease them with Bigi’s videos. He used Bigi to get subscribers on his YouTube account promising a video of Bigi when he hit 1000 subscribers, but now he’s getting mad because people are asking for Bigi. As for the video, Royal seems not to understand how offensive his language was and the fact Bigi was a victim of his slurs, so obviously people are worried about him since he’s MJ’s son and majority of people who comments on his page are MJ’s fans.
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Post by Snow White on Mar 31, 2018 23:26:06 GMT
I truly believe Joe and Katherine spoiled their children rotten into thinking all the siblings were talented and agreeing not to praise Michael more than to their other children. If I remember correctly, all the brothers earned the same amount of money when they were in Motown when Michael was the one who spent more hours working in the studio.
They didn't teach the children to not always rely Michael, Joe and Katherine wanted them to be one unit. It's the only logical reason I can find where their huge entitlement for Michael's fame and money comes from and the Jacksons passed that entitlement to their children. It's not fair Michael worked his butt off most of his life to leave his children financially secure and because of the Jacksons' greed, Michael inherited them a burden. I really hope Prince and Paris intervened because it's not ok what that self entitled asshole, Royal did/is doing to Blanket. I fear something awful will happen the day Blanket turns 18 and no longer needs a guardian, I hope I'm wrong.
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Post by Angel of Light on Apr 1, 2018 0:12:37 GMT
The video of Royal saying those things to Bigi is inexcusable. And based on his Instagram comments posted above, he is not sorry. He sounds very bitter and jealous. What he was doing in that video was far from "joking" if those comments are any indication as to how he really feels.
The "my father's money being handed to me" comment is out of line. Says the kid whose dad is receiving money (*ahem income*) from said "father," money that is probably keeping a roof over his head and has been the past few years.
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Post by respect77 on Apr 1, 2018 6:30:06 GMT
I truly believe Joe and Katherine spoiled their children rotten into thinking all the siblings were talented and agreeing not to praise Michael more than to their other children. If I remember correctly, all the brothers earned the same amount of money when they were in Motown when Michael was the one who spent more hours working in the studio. They didn't teach the children to not always rely Michael, Joe and Katherine wanted them to be one unit. It's the only logical reason I can find where their huge entitlement for Michael's fame and money comes from and the Jacksons passed that entitlement to their children. It's not fair Michael worked his butt off most of his life to leave his children financially secure and because of the Jacksons' greed, Michael inherited them a burden. I really hope Prince and Paris intervened because it's not ok what that self entitled asshole, Royal did/is doing to Blanket. I fear something awful will happen the day Blanket turns 18 and no longer needs a guardian, I hope I'm wrong. Yes, I agree. I noticed with the family's communication that they almost always act like all of MJ's success and fame is a "Jackson family legacy", not MJ's alone. That they were paid equally is also interesting considering that MJ did the most work. From a parental POV it could be understandable while they are younger, but as they grow older they should be taught that payment is in accordance with the work you do. You are not entitled to the same type of rewards as Michael (be it money, fame or success) if he is doing all the work, while you are roller skating outside. I feel that some of MJ's siblings still have jealousy for him and refuse to accept the fact that he was more talented and more hard-working than them. Eg. Jermaine. He actually did say something along the lines "it could have been me" - acting like the fact that MJ became the most successful of the branch was just down to luck or chance. He is delusional. There are other siblings who seem to be more accepting of the fact that MJ was special (eg. Jackie), but some are just downright delusional. Joh'voinne also seems to have this sentiment in her book. She praises all the other siblings' talent, except for Michael, whom she plays down and acts like his success was really just down to luck and "sabotaging his siblings", which is ridiculous. I wonder if he got fed that by Joseph who may be the root of this mindset. If Joseph is the one from whom this is coming from I wonder for what purpose. Did he want to control his most talented son by breaking his confidence, or is it that he is jealous of his own son? I read somewhere that Jermaine was his favourite son and I remember him saying something along the lines that Jermaine was a better singer than Michael. LOL. No wonder if Jermaine feels it could have been him if his father was filling his head with this nonsense. And I think this would also explain the tension between Michael and Jermaine. And I agree that they passed this mentality on to the 2nd and 3rd generation. Hence the entitlement. And that's not just an entitlement to MJ's money, but an entitlement to an entertainment career. Notice how most of the Jacksons don't aspire to do any normal job, going to college or university. Most of them think they should be in entertainment just because their last name. And most of them are just mediocre at best, but they still pursue an entertainment career. I have much respect to Randy's daughter Steveanna who went to Harvard and I am also glad Prince went to college. I think more of them should realize that just because they are Jacksons doesn't mean they all have entertainment talent interesting enough for a career. I am not saying they shouldn't pursue a dream if they are serious about it, but they should realize that nothing will fall on their lap just because they are Jacksons. They have to be talented, creative and they have to put in the hard work - like Michael and Janet did. And they should have a plan B, ie. study, go to college, university etc.
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Post by MattyJam on Apr 1, 2018 6:48:47 GMT
I truly believe Joe and Katherine spoiled their children rotten into thinking all the siblings were talented and agreeing not to praise Michael more than to their other children. If I remember correctly, all the brothers earned the same amount of money when they were in Motown when Michael was the one who spent more hours working in the studio. They didn't teach the children to not always rely Michael, Joe and Katherine wanted them to be one unit. It's the only logical reason I can find where their huge entitlement for Michael's fame and money comes from and the Jacksons passed that entitlement to their children. It's not fair Michael worked his butt off most of his life to leave his children financially secure and because of the Jacksons' greed, Michael inherited them a burden. I really hope Prince and Paris intervened because it's not ok what that self entitled asshole, Royal did/is doing to Blanket. I fear something awful will happen the day Blanket turns 18 and no longer needs a guardian, I hope I'm wrong. Yes, I agree. I noticed with the family's communication that they almost always act like all of MJ's success and fame is a "Jackson family legacy", not MJ's alone. That they were paid equally is also interesting considering that MJ did the most work. From a parental POV it could be understandable while they are younger, but as they grow older they should be taught that payment is in accordance with the work you do. You are not entitled to the same type of rewards as Michael (be it money, fame or success) if he is doing all the work, while you are roller skating outside. I feel that some of MJ's siblings still have jealousy for him and refuse to accept the fact that he was more talented and more hard-working than them. Eg. Jermaine. He actually did say something along the lines "it could have been me" - acting like the fact that MJ became the most successful of the branch was just down to luck or chance. He is delusional. There are other siblings who seem to be more accepting of the fact that MJ was special (eg. Jackie), but some are just downright delusional. Joh'voinne also seems to have this sentiment in her book. She praises all the other siblings' talent, except for Michael, whom she plays down and acts like his success was really just down to luck and "sabotaging his siblings", which is ridiculous. I wonder if he got fed that by Joseph who may be the root of this mindset. If Joseph is the one from whom this is coming from I wonder for what purpose. Did he want to control his most talented son by breaking his confidence, or is it that he is jealous of his own son? I read somewhere that Jermaine was his favourite son and I remember him saying something along the lines that Jermaine was a better singer than Michael. LOL. No wonder if Jermaine feels it could have been him if his father was filling his head with this nonsense. And I think this would also explain the tension between Michael and Jermaine. And I agree that they passed this mentality on to the 2nd and 3rd generation. Hence the entitlement. And that's not just an entitlement to MJ's money, but an entitlement to an entertainment career. Notice how most of the Jacksons don't aspire to do any normal job, going to college or university. Most of them think they should be in entertainment just because their last name. And most of them are just mediocre at best, but they still pursue an entertainment career. I have much respect to Randy's daughter Steveanna who went to Harvard and I am also glad Prince went to college. I think more of them should realize that just because they are Jacksons doesn't mean they all have entertainment talent interesting enough for a career. I am not saying they shouldn't pursue a dream if they are serious about it, but they should realize that nothing will fall on their lap just because they are Jacksons. They have to be talented, creative and they have to put in the hard work - like Michael and Janet did. And they should have a plan B, ie. study, go to college, university etc. Absolutely on the money, as always respect77. That's one thing I admire about Prince, how he just came out and admitted he can't sing and he can't dance, without a hint of ego or delusion. He also doesn't seem to take for granted his last name, choosing to go to college and study his craft rather than expecting to get by on nepotism alone (which would be the easy option in his position). I've seen some fans in the past bemoan how MJ fans always defend PPB over the rest of the extended Jackson clan, but the truth is, they come off a lot more grounded and humble than a lot of the second and third generation relatives and they are an absolute credit to Michael.
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Post by respect77 on Apr 4, 2018 4:52:26 GMT
Happy birthday to Paris!
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Post by Russg on Apr 4, 2018 18:53:41 GMT
Happy birthday to Paris! The very existence of Brett Barnes and his continued respect for MJ must kill Wade Robson.
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Post by respect77 on Apr 4, 2018 20:05:12 GMT
Happy birthday to Paris! The very existence of Brett Barnes and his continued respect for MJ must kill Wade Robson. It sure does. No wonder Robson's mother tried to troll Brett's Facebook page. LOL. I think deep down she knows that if Brett is telling the truth then her son isn't. Acc. to her own deposition testimony MJ hung out with Brett more than he did with Wade, so much so that Wade actually felt pushed aside. It doesn't make sense if he molested Wade and didn't Brett. And if he didn't molest Brett it is very, very unlikely he did Wade.
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Post by Snow White on Apr 4, 2018 21:17:11 GMT
Happy birthday to Paris! The very existence of Brett Barnes and his continued respect for MJ must kill Wade Robson. I'd add haters obsessed with Michael's culpability too. How come Brett has always defended MJ even from Robson and never accused him either. But yeah, it wouldn't surprise if Robson tried to recruit Brett into his bullshit scheme but Brett as a decent human being and loyal friend he is, he refused continuing to honor their friendship instead, it must infuriate WR.
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