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Post by HIStoric on Dec 15, 2017 10:53:22 GMT
Bad judgement =/= abuse. You use these terms interchangeably just to be able to draw a paralell to an act that is considered domestic abuse by any measure. Yes, potentially it could have been worse if he had dropped Blanket, but the act of dangling is still not abuse in itself. While hitting someone is. Alright, well it is at least mistreatment as the child was put in a dangerous situation. Even if I am wrong in my comparison, I still by my intended core point about how people speak about Lennon. Like I'm fine if people bring up that he hit his wife once, that's what really happened and I'm not defending that action at all. I just get annoyed when people make it sound like he constantly physically abused his wives over the years when he didn't. I feels like it's brought up every other time his mention and people often portray him in such a manner (not that people here necessarily did here - just that the topic came up and I decided to finally speak up in defence of Lennon here, to at least point it isn't as bad as it sounds). I just don't feel an idiotic once-off mistake should define him as who he was, when he not only regretted it but later went on to genuinely better himself as a human being and made songs to bring awareness to the oppression of women worldwide. |
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Post by HIStoric on Dec 15, 2017 11:26:03 GMT
ANYWAY to get back on topic about The Beatles and the Rolling Stones...
So a while back I listened to the Rolling Stones Essentials playlist on Apple Music, as well as bits of GRRR! over the years but I've never really cared for more than a handful of songs. The few songs I really do love are (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction, Paint It Black, Gimme Shelter and She's a Rainbow in particular. Any recommendations along these lines that I can check out?
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Post by mjjfan810 on Dec 15, 2017 11:47:38 GMT
ANYWAY to get back on topic about The Beatles and the Rolling Stones... So a while back I listened to the Rolling Stones Essentials playlist on Apple Music, as well as bits of GRRR! over the years but I've never really cared for more than a handful of songs. The few songs I really do love are (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction, Paint It Black, Gimme Shelter and She's a Rainbow in particular. Any recommendations along these lines that I can check out? I think the Stones are understood better from their albums than they are individual tracks. Of course, they did release a lot of one-off singles, which is why some compilation albums are definitely essential in filling in the gaps. But they did some terrific albums in the 60/70s and even one or two good ones in the 80s and 90s also.
Some of my favourite Stones albums include Exile On Main Street, Let It Bleed, Beggars Banquet, Sticky Fingers and Aftermath. For an underrated latter-day Stones album, check out Voodoo Lounge.
These are just a few of my favourite tracks (although I could name about a hundred more on any given day):
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Post by HIStoric on Dec 15, 2017 12:00:18 GMT
I think the Stones are understood better from their albums than they are individual tracks. Of course, they did release a lot of one-off singles, which is why some compilation albums are definitely essential in filling in the gaps. But they did some terrific albums in the 60/70s and even one or two good ones in the 80s and 90s also. Thanks for that! I'll take a listen to those songs soon. Those are quite a few albums, if you had to pick one Stones studio album to show to someone new, what would it be? Perhaps something relatively rock orientated if that helps. |
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Post by SoCav on Dec 15, 2017 12:03:35 GMT
I think the Stones are understood better from their albums than they are individual tracks. Of course, they did release a lot of one-off singles, which is why some compilation albums are definitely essential in filling in the gaps. But they did some terrific albums in the 60/70s and even one or two good ones in the 80s and 90s also. Thanks for that! I'll take a listen to those songs soon. Those are quite a few albums, if you had to pick one Stones studio album to show to someone new, what would it be? Perhaps something relatively rock orientated if that helps. I think Sticky Fingers and Exile are generally considered their best albums, or perhaps Beggars Banquet or Let It Bleed. Personally I love Exile most, particularly as a full album to listen to. |
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Post by HIStoric on Dec 15, 2017 12:08:33 GMT
Thanks for that! I'll take a listen to those songs soon. Those are quite a few albums, if you had to pick one Stones studio album to show to someone new, what would it be? Perhaps something relatively rock orientated if that helps. I think Sticky Fingers and Exile are generally considered their best albums, or perhaps Beggars Banquet or Let It Bleed. Personally I love Exile most, particularly as a full album to listen to. I might try Let It Bleed, thanks, since Gimme Shelter opens it. Such a fantastic song, first heard it in Goodfellas I think. |
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Post by mjjfan810 on Dec 15, 2017 12:15:27 GMT
^^ Exile is a great album, probably my favourite, but it's a bit long and sprawling, with a lot of extended jams etc, so I wouldn't recommend it to a Stones beginner.
I would say Aftermath is their most immediate, catchy album, although it's more sixties pop than it is rock.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 9:53:19 GMT
It is hard to decide, both are extemely important and both were influential, but I am going with the Stones. The Beatles were magic together, but a lot of their post Beatles songs are pretty iffy, particularly McCartney and Ringo.
The Stones have way too many great songs to be overlooked. Most of their music through to Tattoo You is untouchable and there are many decent songs afterwards. Jumpin Jack Flash, Honky Tonk Women, Sympathy for the Devil, Gimme Shelter, Brown Sugar, Angie, You can't always get what you want, Dandelion, Miss You, Fool to Cry, Happy, Tumbling Dice, Paint it black, We love you - these songs are just perfection and do I need to mention Satisfaction. Jagger may be all lips, cock and ego but he is one hell of a vocalist and writer. Keef may be the most wasted man alive, but he is also the most kick ass guitarist of all time, with the most recognisable guitar riffs ever. Charlie can drum like hell and eevn Ronnie is good at his job. Plus we can not forget the talent and charisma of Brian Jones.
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Post by HIStoric on Dec 19, 2017 11:27:02 GMT
I would say Aftermath is their most immediate, catchy album, although it's more sixties pop than it is rock. I think Sticky Fingers and Exile are generally considered their best albums, or perhaps Beggars Banquet or Let It Bleed. So I listened to Let It Bleed the other night. Outside of the opening track (which I already loved - fell in love the second I heard it in Goodfellas!), there wasn't really anything in particular that stood out to me. Like I still enjoyed the music and if it was on in the background I'd be down with it, if it came on shuffle I wouldn't rush for the skip button but in saying that, I wouldn't seek it out to play. Same with Aftermath, though I think I enjoyed that more than Let It Bleed. Anyhow there's an official Spotify 'Best Of' playlist that I just had a very quick whirl and some of the songs there caught my attention so I'll go through that at some point. One thing I really love about The Beatles is the absolutely gorgeeeeooussss way their vocals harmonise with each other. I'm such a sucker for great harmonies and the way their vocals mesh together legitimately created some of the most beautiful and moving harmonies I've ever heard. Fricken match made in heaven! |
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Post by aazzaabb on Jan 5, 2018 21:54:08 GMT
That's easy for me. The Beatles. I don't mind The Stones when their on TV and they definitely look like fun when their doing a live show but I can't get into them. I have 40 Licks and a couple of other albums, and I like a handful of songs but gawd they bore. The Beatles on the other hand blow my mind. As Mick says "you can't always get what you want. But you get what you need."
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Post by mistermaxxx08 on Jan 19, 2018 8:05:15 GMT
on a whole not big on neither however out of the two
the Beatles got words and music over there and that is the main thing. got more catelog money tracks.
neither one of those bands could see no Earth,wind and fire or the isley Brothers and Sly and Family stone either.
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Post by funksoldier on Jan 19, 2018 13:26:59 GMT
I like the beatles more. I never really got into the Stones.
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