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Post by Russg on Apr 3, 2018 14:11:06 GMT
What a crock of shit this is. For starters, the allegations weren't until 1993, two years before Give Into Me. Unless he means Slash playing with MJ at the 1995 VMA awards? I'm not sure if he refers specifically to Give Into Me or not, as I haven't listened to the actual interview. Another reason why this is likely a crock of shit is because Axl Rose himself recently named MJ as one of the singers he rated as the greatest ever in an interview.... so Axl obviously never had a problem with MJ.
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Apr 3, 2018 14:16:02 GMT
Yeah, I've seen people on gnr forums talk about this as if it's fact when it's a logical fallacy lmao.
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Post by Russg on Apr 3, 2018 14:28:54 GMT
Yeah, I've seen people on gnr forums talk about this as if it's fact when it's a logical fallacy lmao. Does he say it's about MJ/Slash recording Give Into Me together, or just working together in general?
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Post by MattyJam on Apr 3, 2018 14:44:31 GMT
Doug Goldstein is a well-know joke in GNR fan circles. He was fired by Axl in 2002 and never got over it. Axl hasn't wanted anything to do with him in nearly twenty years and the guy is a nobody in the music industry, who now makes his living selling real estate. He will talk to anybody who will give him the time of day, regularly recalling factually inaccurate stories from his tenure as GNR manager, things that historically cannot possibly have happened.
And the Axl Rose quote you're referring to Russ, is this:
Axl Rose, upon being informed that Spin Magazine had voted him "World's Greatest Singer":
"That said, I enjoy Freddie Mercury, Elvis Presley, Paul McCartney, Michael Jackson, Elton John, Roger Daltrey, Don Henley, Jeff Lynne, Johnny Cash, Frank Sinatra, Jimmy Scott, Etta James, Fiona Apple, Chrissie Hynde, Stevie Wonder, James Brown and a ton of others (predominantly '70s rock singers) and would rather hear ANY of them anytime rather than me!"
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Post by Snow White on Apr 3, 2018 15:07:34 GMT
This is so old news, I posted Doug Goldstein bullshit comments on MJJC 2 or 3 years ago. Not only Slash collaborated and appeared on the Give Into Me short, former GNR guitarist, Gilby Clarke is featured as well and its director, Andy Morahan directed many GNR videos in the past. Many people related to the band associated with with Michael, and you don't mention him as one of your favorite singers if you had a problem with him, so what Goldstein has said is complete bullshit.
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Post by milo on Apr 4, 2018 0:10:04 GMT
This is old news. I remember Slash denying this story at the time.
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Post by MattyJam on Apr 4, 2018 7:00:49 GMT
^^ Story has resurfaced because this is a new interview, with Doug still spouting the same bullshit.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2018 18:28:08 GMT
So if its lies why is is this in the main Michael Jackson forum, I got roasted over hot coals by the world class wrecking crew of TonyR and others over the Darwen Porter book - so why does this run free and unchecked.
We should have a ban on the "p" word which is mentioned here (For those with 2 digit IQs = the word suggesting Michael liked young boys too much), of course the sparkers and set it off to the left yo types will turn on me.
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Post by Russg on Apr 4, 2018 18:44:08 GMT
So if its lies why is is this in the main Michael Jackson forum, I got roasted over hot coals by the world class wrecking crew of TonyR and others over the Darwen Porter book - so why does this run free and unchecked. We should have a ban on the "p" word which is mentioned here (For those with 2 digit IQs = the word suggesting Michael liked young boys too much), of course the sparkers and set it off to the left yo types will turn on me. I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill. I saw this article on a well known music site and copied the article here. I don't agree that the word "pedophile" should be banned here. Is it an unfortunate and horrible part of the MJ story? Yes. Should we collectively create some weird alternate reality where we all pretend that 1993/2005 never happened? No. It should be discussed and openly without any taboo. The minute you start pretending it didn't happen is the minute the haters win with their arguments that MJ fans bury their heads in the sand.
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Post by Vega on Apr 4, 2018 21:21:18 GMT
So if its lies why is is this in the main Michael Jackson forum, I got roasted over hot coals by the world class wrecking crew of TonyR and others over the Darwen Porter book - so why does this run free and unchecked. We should have a ban on the "p" word which is mentioned here (For those with 2 digit IQs = the word suggesting Michael liked young boys too much), of course the sparkers and set it off to the left yo types will turn on me. Haha, good one! He's quite the bad ass.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2018 8:02:12 GMT
So if its lies why is is this in the main Michael Jackson forum, I got roasted over hot coals by the world class wrecking crew of TonyR and others over the Darwen Porter book - so why does this run free and unchecked. We should have a ban on the "p" word which is mentioned here (For those with 2 digit IQs = the word suggesting Michael liked young boys too much), of course the sparkers and set it off to the left yo types will turn on me. I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill. I saw this article on a well known music site and copied the article here. I don't agree that the word "pedophile" should be banned here. Is it an unfortunate and horrible part of the MJ story? Yes. Should we collectively create some weird alternate reality where we all pretend that 1993/2005 never happened? No. It should be discussed and openly without any taboo. The minute you start pretending it didn't happen is the minute the haters win with their arguments that MJ fans bury their heads in the sand. We have not had a problem with haters here yet, everyone on this board, Phony R included is at least a loyal fan and none would honestly believe Michael was anything near guilty. These rumours with both Jordy and Gavin were nothing but lies fabricated to milk Michael Jackson for all he was worth. There is NO substance to them or any other rumours of what he got up to with young children. I am sure anyone expressing that Michael was guilty or anything else would receive a lifetime ban from this site immediately.
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Post by TonyR on Apr 5, 2018 9:01:23 GMT
^ Ha. Phony. It's funny 'cos it rhymes with Tony.
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Apr 8, 2018 10:47:14 GMT
People on the GnR forum I'm on seem to believe stuff this guy says and I'm wondering why.
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Post by Snow White on Apr 8, 2018 12:58:05 GMT
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Apr 8, 2018 13:04:31 GMT
They know slash said it's crap. They're saying maybe doug is just misremembering and he actually means 1995. Which I find pretty hard to believe since he's been telling this same story for years.
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