MJ accused of sexual abuse in "Leaving Neverland’
Jan 13, 2019 8:04:05 GMT
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Post by respect77 on Jan 13, 2019 8:04:05 GMT
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So Safechuck's tweet is from 2013... when did he start accusing MJ? I know a somewhat decent amount about Wade Robson's case but I don't know anything about Safechucks. Did he testify in defense of Michael too? What's the general low-down with his case?
Don't get the 'no settlement' thing though, if he's talking about the 1990s case? Though I did see some moron on Daily Mail (yes yes I know) comment that Michael paid off 'lots' of families - despite the fact he only ever paid off one with evidence showing it's not because he was guilty. Perhaps Safechuck's referring to a comment saying something to that sort.
Safechuck filed his lawsuit in May 2014. So Tony's comment was before, but actually Safechuck was already working on his lawsuit when Tony made this comment. It is in his court docs that he was working with his lawyers on his lawsuit since Sept 2013 and he was inspired by Wade to make allegations in May 2013 when Wade came out with his claims.
But probably he kept it a secretly even from his family (at least bigger family, like cousin) at the time, hence Tony's comment. I guess Tony now would just say that he didn't know yet at the time that James was abused.
James apparently often had friends and cousins with him at Neverland so he built some safeguards in his complaint to explain why no one noticed anything.
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I didn't yet have time an article about the Safechuck allegations, but I guess now I will have to. We have less material about him, because he was never deposed, his case never got as far in the court system as Wade's, so basically we just have his complaint. But already in it you can point out things that are either absurd or demonstrably false. And actually in many ways his complaint describes a totally different abuser than Wade's.
Here is a thread about it:
"THREAD: Last year on Inside Edition Wade Robson claimed that "Every time we were together it happened. There was no night that went by that I was with him that he didn't sexually abuse me."
When you read Robson's deposition, it sounds a little bit overboard, how he tries to sneak an abuse story into almost any and every interaction that he had with Jackson for 7 years.
He portrays Jackson as a totally insatiable, reckless abuser who would abuse him even with other people being in the next room, able to walk in on them any time. For example
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You have to understand, why he needed these claims from a legal point of view. Robson sued Jackson's companies (you cannot sue a dead natural person). In order to implicate the companies he needed to make them responsible for his alleged abuse.
The way to do that is to suggest that people employed by the companies might have been aware of the abuse and deliberately enabled it.
But this totally contradicts James Safechuck's portrayal of MJ as this extremely cautious, paranoid abuser who would go extreme lengths to avoid being detected, like
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Safechuck needed this type of portayal for his own purposes as often family and friend went with him to his Neverland trips and no one ever has seen anything suspicious. So he need an explanation for that.
This, however, resulted in totally contradictory portayal by these men as to how MJ supposedly was as a "molester".
Robson portrays him as a reckless abuser who couldn't resist molesting him whenever they stayed alone just for a couple of minutes, even if other people were dangerously close to detecting them.
Safechuck, on the other hand, portrays him as very, very cautious almost to the point of paranoia.
So which one is it? Probably neither, because both are lying. I doubt though, that this will be mentioned in that documentary.
Another addition to how Robson portrays MJ as a totally reckless abuser in contrary to Safechuck's portrayal as an extremely cautious one.
This is about his mother:
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BTW, the fact that Robson portrays MJ as this insatiable molester also contradicts the fact, that acc. to his own mother's deposition MJ did not actually want to spend that much time with Wade. It was always Joy who pursued him to put Wade in videos.
MJ refused to take Wade on the Dangerous Tour and Joy cut him off for six months because he did not even call Wade from the tour. She also had to be the one who pursued MJ to put Wade in his "Jam" video.
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In an 1995 interview (http://onwiththeshow.com.au/the-inside-story-on-life-in-michael-jacksons-shadow-1995/ …) Joy Robson also said that when they move to the USA Jackson spent much of the time away.
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Rosbon and Safechuck's portrayal of MJ as a "molester" also differ in that Safechuck describes a many months long "grooming" period, whereas Robson says MJ couldn't wait to molest him right on the first occasion they were alone in a room. No grooming period, nothing.
Mind you, Robson's story changed even since its first telling. For example, in a book draft that he shopped late 2012-early 2013, he wrote that MJ did not molest him right away the first weekend they spent together, but only the next week when his parents weren't around.
By the time he filed his complaint the story changed to MJ molesting him right away. It even prompted the lawyers for MJ's side to ask him if his memories have "evolved"? That is it to put it euphemistically that his story has changed.
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More: Safechuck, taking a cue from the Arvizo's story, claims MJ gave him alcohol when he was a child.
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Robson, on the other hand, expressed surprise about MJ drinking alcohol when he desribed their last meeting in 2008 in Las Vegas (when both of them were adults, of course). He said it was new to him even then that MJ wanted alcohol!
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