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Post by Thriller on Jul 9, 2019 7:18:32 GMT
The performance could not be any more transparent and awkward. Another pic with his kids. This time using July 4 to remind people of his "victimhood". 'Hey, just in case you forgot, you know I'm a child abuse victim right?'
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Post by respect77 on Jul 9, 2019 15:16:59 GMT
For a little variety he should sometimes pose with puppies as well.
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Post by Thriller on Jul 9, 2019 15:56:37 GMT
Lines such as 'I'd like to eat that for thanks giving' and 'you can call me daddy long stroke', yet it just didn't register in his mind that what MJ was doing to him was wrong until the age of 29.
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Post by russtcb on Jul 10, 2019 13:06:22 GMT
I promised myself I wouldn't visit this thread anymore, but I watched something last night that doesn't seem to fit anywhere but here:
I watched the new Aziz Ansari stand up special on Netflix. He went on about R Kelly for a bit and I just knew he was going to bring up Michael. He did I thing where he asked people to clap if they were done with R Kelly and the majority of the crowd clapped. Then he asked the people who are done with Michael to clap and it was significantly less.
Then he said something like "WHERE ARE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO CLAPPED FOR R KELLY??". Then he went into a bit about how Michael's music is just too good and that's why people don't believe he was a bad person. He said some things about how he doesn't know if Michael did it or not, but we'll forgive him anyway because his music is so good. He then went on about how the people around Michael should have stopped him from having children around, etc. He also did a thing where if you Google "Michael Jackson guilty" or "Michael Jackson innocent" you'll believe whatever version you want because both sides can make a case.
Anyway, the reason why it was so offensive to me was because of the reasoning he used. My belief regarding Michael Jackson's innocence has NOTHING to do with his music. I believe he's innocent because he IS innocent, not because Billie Jean is a really good song.
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Post by respect77 on Jul 10, 2019 13:16:00 GMT
Yeah, it's their usual crap about how people only think he's innocent because they like his music. I have never heard anyone argue for his innocence saying it's because his music is good. So it's such a fallacy.
Wasn't this guy accused of something himself?
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Post by Snow White on Jul 10, 2019 13:23:23 GMT
Also, it's hypocritical of Anzari to have the lynch mob mentality and condemn Michael for a crime he was cleared and thoroughly investigated when Anzari himself was falsely accused. I thought some falsey accused would be more empathetic and would be more careful of not condemning people without evidence but he didn't learn his lesson. Michael was such an easy target that's it's irresistible for a lot of hack, lazy comedians.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 13:27:05 GMT
Cant stand this bullshit. Fans expect to be taken seriously in their arguments? I block mute and delete anyone who comes out with slurry like this.
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Post by Snow White on Jul 10, 2019 13:36:03 GMT
Epstein and Weinstein crimes were hurried because the mainstream media were so busy lynching Michael, violating his presumption of innocence in all the ways possible.
I don't understand what you mean, innuendo. Are fans making a tempest in a teapot over Tatum's comments?
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Post by HIStoric on Jul 10, 2019 14:01:31 GMT
I don't understand what you mean, innuendo. Are fans making a tempest in a teapot over Tatum's comments? I think what he means is that their comments come off childish and lacking any logical response. Their response to Tatum O'Neal allegedly believing Robson/Safechuck is to criticise her acting? What does that have to do with LN or the allegations? What exactly will that do to convince anyone that Michael Jackson was innocent or that Robson/Safechuck are acting? Or to convince her that she is wrong? Absolutely nothing. It's pathetic, and it's the sort of irrelevant, personal argument you turn to when you have no logical argument against the person. If anything, it could just make her double down on her opinion in response, then we get the typical 'crazy MJ fan' response people have given. It's exactly how you lose credibility to anyone outside of the fanbase.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 14:01:48 GMT
Epstein and Weinstein crimes were hurried because the mainstream media were so busy lynching Michael, violating his presumption of innocence in all the ways possible. I don't understand what you mean, innuendo. Are fans making a tempest in a teapot over Tatum's comments? Yeah- but its not even that, its going with out and out attacks on a person, which in turn leads to their followers following suit, making MJ fans look mental. YET AGAIN MJ fans spreading tabloid news faster than the tabloids. I wouldnt have known this only for fans' outrage.
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Post by Vega on Jul 10, 2019 14:04:04 GMT
Also, it's hypocritical of Anzari to have the lynch mob mentality and condemn Michael for a crime he was cleared and thoroughly investigated when Anzari himself was falsely accused. I thought some falsey accused would be more empathetic and would be more careful of not condemning people without evidence but he didn't learn his lesson. Michael was such an easy target that's it's irresistible for a lot of hack, lazy comedians. Yeah, that struck me as well. You would think given his experience with bullshit allegations he might be a little more careful.
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Post by respect77 on Jul 10, 2019 14:29:41 GMT
Tatum should stick to talking about those who did molest her while she was underage. MJ was probably the most innocent person in her life.
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Post by WildStyle on Jul 10, 2019 15:36:13 GMT
I do agree that fans being hostile is probably not the best course of action and will likely have the opposite effect of what they're trying to achieve. But it has been a difficult year.
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Post by respect77 on Jul 10, 2019 15:49:19 GMT
Haters are a lot more crazy than fans. Case in point:
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Post by Cloudbuster on Jul 10, 2019 22:53:49 GMT
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