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Post by elusivemoonwalker on Jan 28, 2019 19:13:10 GMT
I dont even look at the screenshots. Total respect for the poster who went in there to film it.
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Post by Snow White on Jan 28, 2019 19:17:07 GMT
I think most of the translation makes sense. Yes, it's a positive article. Leaving Neverland by Dan Reed divides the audience on charges against Michael Jackson, the two protagonists speak Wade Robson and James Safechuck appear as victims of abuse, but during the trial they defended the pop star What Leaving Neverland of Dan Reed unleashed from the moment the Sundance Film Festival announced its screening for January 25th, has been rekindling the spotlight on a story that had already ended with the full acquittal of Michael Jackson and with the demonstration of falsehood brought to court . Yet, despite numerous appeals, the documentary again focused on allegations of pedophilia against the singer who died was broadcast at the Egyptian Theater in Park City, and after four hours of the premiere the audience burst into a standing ovation while outside it they were activating the protests . A standing ovation of an audience carefully selected by the director , as it was not appreciated the presence of those who supported the innocence of the King of Pop, innocence shown above all by the court and the FBI. The demonstration on the bias of the documentary by Dan Reed comes from the Michael Jackson Estate foundation that states that the director, during the creation of Leaving Neverland , avoided asking the people who had been closer to Michael Jackson and who were ready to prove the falsity of the allegations of which it was the object. In the midst of the explosion of chaos unleashed at the film's screening, Wade Robson and James Safechuck came out and commented on their participation in Leaving Neverland by Dan Reed. In fact, they are the victims on which the four hours of documentary are concentrated. Wade Robson, the most challenged by Michael Jackson Estate, defends himself from accusations of slander: I do not feel like saying anything to him. Only I understand how difficult it is for them to believe it . Because in a sense, not long ago, I was in the same position. Even if it really happened to me, I still could not believe it. I could not believe that what Michael had done to me was bad. We can accept and understand something only when we are ready. We can not do anything to change things. In turn, James Safechuck intervenes with more frankness: "He was one of the kindest and most generous people I have ever known. He helped me with my career. And he sexually harassed me for seven years . " The response of fans of the King of Pop who support his innocence was not long in coming, because on January 17, the YouTube channel Michael Jackson Allegations published a reconstruction of the devolution of Wade Robson's accusations to prove the unreliability. The documentary The True Story od Michael Jackson show that Wade Robson had defended the star until 2013 , and then started talking about sexual abuse and, in the meantime, asking for compensation from the foundation dedicated to the late singer. The family of Beat It 's pop star , finally, said that the new charges were made possible by the time Michael Jackson is no longer alive, as it is no longer possible to defend himself. Leaving Neverland by Dan Reed, therefore, would be a defamatory move to speculate on the figure of the King of Pop according to groundless accusations, despite the full acquittal of the court and the court papers.
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Post by danm on Jan 28, 2019 20:26:50 GMT
I don't speak Italian but they say this is a good article and our video is included in it. In turn, James Safechuck intervenes with more frankness: "He was one of the kindest and most generous people I have ever known. He helped me with my career. And he sexually harassed me for seven years . " ] You can see what they’re both trying to do here. Not sound bitter. Say MJ was kind and generous etc to gain even more sympathy. Completely at odds with how they behaved during the lawsuit and the depositions they gave.
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Post by danm on Jan 28, 2019 21:00:03 GMT
The Q&A from the second night with the fraudsters. I see they are talking about trying to change statutes of limitations laws. But it is not about the money, alright. And his fake ass with his fake anger for MJ's employees. Why don't you sue your mother? In the lawsuit all blame is put on MJ's companies and Norma Staikos. No mention about their mothers' responsibility. Instead they try contrived ways to blame Norma and lie about who orchestrated certain meetings (Joy went to Norma, not the other way around). James wasn't even employed by those companies so makes up ridiculous theories about how the fact he danced on stage with MJ was an employment with MJJ Productions. But it is not about money but the "truth". Ridiculous. And James' overdramatic crap about MJ being so powerful that people were scared to speak out against him. Yeah, only every second ex-employee and nobody ran to tabloids with a story if the money was right. Ridiculous. I’ve not watched the Q&A, but your comments just prove exactly what their motive is. Money. Suing MJ’s companies. Suing the Estate. All this clap trap about bringing out the truth for the victims is a PR stunt, a diversion.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 21:03:19 GMT
My twitter TL seems back to about normal guys. Anyone else?
Now that it appears to be calming down, one thing that's really struck me. I know this is entertainment news, but it is frightening that so many news companies were able to launch full stories based on tweets alone.
I really believe more than ever, Twitter is the worst thing on the planet. Yet I use it. I use it mainly for sport news, running training, music etc. But to see how many people revolve around what's said on twitter, and the entitlement of those who feel that what they say on twitter carries weight, it is the cess pit of the earth. It's made mere-evaluate everything I see on Twitter. Even MJ fans. They think theyre doing good, but what use is spamming some morons tweet because they say something negative?
I have been guilty of letting twitter and online news consume me the last few days. Its eaten away at me. But now whats eating me is how pathetic it's all become. Some critic in the States tweets "we were wrong to cheer for MJ" and it makes the news in Ireland. Why? I'm beginning to question every person who was hunted down in this metoo age. The internet has made us miserable. Bring back the days when all I wanted was an MJ leak.
Finally, and this point hit me in the fucking face while I was coughing up a lung during training...
Every single documentary I have ever seen about John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer all had interviews with family, or people that knew them, either former friends or work colleagues. Think about that, and think about who was interviewed for this film.
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Post by MattyJam on Jan 28, 2019 21:36:15 GMT
My twitter TL seems back to about normal guys. Anyone else? Now that it appears to be calming down, one thing that's really struck me. I know this is entertainment news, but it is frightening that so many news companies were able to launch full stories based on tweets alone. I really believe more than ever, Twitter is the worst thing on the planet. Yet I use it. I use it mainly for sport news, running training, music etc. But to see how many people revolve around what's said on twitter, and the entitlement of those who feel that what they say on twitter carries weight, it is the cess pit of the earth. It's made mere-evaluate everything I see on Twitter. Even MJ fans. They think theyre doing good, but what use is spamming some morons tweet because they say something negative? I have been guilty of letting twitter and online news consume me the last few days. Its eaten away at me. But now whats eating me is how pathetic it's all become. Some critic in the States tweets "we were wrong to cheer for MJ" and it makes the news in Ireland. Why? I'm beginning to question every person who was hunted down in this metoo age. The internet has made us miserable. Bring back the days when all I wanted was an MJ leak. Finally, and this point hit me in the fucking face while I was coughing up a lung during training... Every single documentary I have ever seen about John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer all had interviews with family, or people that knew them, either former friends or work colleagues. Think about that, and think about who was interviewed for this film. Totally agree with you about Twitter. The lead singer of The Smashing Pumpkins said in an interview recently about how Twitter makes everyone feel as if they're opinion is worthy of being broadcasted, irrespective of how ill-informed or moronic it might be, and that ultimately, it's creating an environment where people have a total disregard and intolerance for anybody who holds an opposing view on something. I am very careful about what I expose myself to on social media and the internet/telly/media in general these days. I don't want to invite that poison into my life.
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Post by Thriller on Jan 29, 2019 1:30:05 GMT
The Q&A from the second night with the fraudsters. I see they are talking about trying to change statutes of limitations laws. But it is not about the money, alright. And his fake ass with his fake anger for MJ's employees. Why don't you sue your mother? In the lawsuit all blame is put on MJ's companies and Norma Staikos. No mention about their mothers' responsibility. Instead they try contrived ways to blame Norma and lie about who orchestrated certain meetings (Joy went to Norma, not the other way around). James wasn't even employed by those companies so makes up ridiculous theories about how the fact he danced on stage with MJ was an employment with MJJ Productions. But it is not about money but the "truth". Ridiculous. And James' overdramatic crap about MJ being so powerful that people were scared to speak out against him. Yeah, only every second ex-employee and nobody ran to tabloids with a story if the money was right. Ridiculous. James, 'The civil lawsuit is an act of fighting back... and the law is the stage to do that. It gives us the tools as victims.' And you've both used this stage to lie under oath. Wade saying he was concerned about having lied under oath in 2005. I doubt that very much. In his court documents he claims he 'didn't realise it was abuse'. Therefore he made out he didn't willingly lie. Meaning 1. A way to try and get around the statute of limitations and 2. A way to explain away his 2005 testimony without outright claiming, at least at that time, he knew he was lying. Although he contradicts this in the documentary and on his blog. He is such a scumbag. 'The law isn't set up properly for survivors' in response to his case being thrown out. There needs to be statute of limitations otherwise there would be huge amounts of claims against people decades later. He's also taking the piss out of real victims with that statement given he has done nothing but lie under oath again and again. It's all just so ridiculous in regards to blaming the employees. Like you say, it's on his Mother. His Mother was the sole reason he regained contact with MJ and the one who let her son be around the man. The other big thing with this whole blaming of the employees is due to the Chandler allegations police became involved. Wade was interviewed and denied abuse. He also denied it before a Grand Jury. So, what could these employees supposedly do when he was denying abuse? Blanca Francia claimed Wade showered with MJ and he denied it... so it all makes no sense. 'When is that point 'shit I can't keep looking the other way'? A better question would be 'When is that point 'shit, my Mother is the reason for me being around MJ and thus it's her fault'? Also about employees 'looking the other way' and 'how can I do that, I'm a parent' he says, 'especially post becoming a father... I'm not sure I'd understand that otherwise'. He doesn't even realise how he shoots his point down by saying that. Unless every single employee was a parent then maybe they didn't 'understand' if only since you became a father you began to 'understand'.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 3:23:10 GMT
The latest ridiculous gossip about this pile of doo doo www.nzherald.co.nz//entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=12197782&ref=clavisApparently Paris is entering rehab over the allegations her father abused children. Probably made up and sickening. Already had to defend him against two people who have said "That movie proves he was a paedophile and he was lying all the way along". I also went to a record store yesterday and in the MJ section, someone left a note saying that his records should be taken off sale as he is a paedophile. The hysteria is ripping through the mouthbreeders again.
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Post by Thriller on Jan 29, 2019 3:57:47 GMT
Did you take the note away and throw it in the bin? You should have.
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Post by Liberian Girl on Jan 29, 2019 8:17:30 GMT
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Post by danm on Jan 29, 2019 11:02:47 GMT
Already had to defend him against two people who have said "That movie proves he was a paedophile and he was lying all the way along". I also went to a record store yesterday and in the MJ section, someone left a note saying that his records should be taken off sale as he is a paedophile. The hysteria is ripping through the mouthbreeders again. This is exactly why the Estate needs to start fighting this more vigorously. People are accepting these allegations as fact.
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Post by respect77 on Jan 29, 2019 11:13:05 GMT
My twitter TL seems back to about normal guys. Anyone else? Now that it appears to be calming down, one thing that's really struck me. I know this is entertainment news, but it is frightening that so many news companies were able to launch full stories based on tweets alone. I really believe more than ever, Twitter is the worst thing on the planet. Yet I use it. I use it mainly for sport news, running training, music etc. But to see how many people revolve around what's said on twitter, and the entitlement of those who feel that what they say on twitter carries weight, it is the cess pit of the earth. It's made mere-evaluate everything I see on Twitter. Even MJ fans. They think theyre doing good, but what use is spamming some morons tweet because they say something negative? I have been guilty of letting twitter and online news consume me the last few days. Its eaten away at me. But now whats eating me is how pathetic it's all become. Some critic in the States tweets "we were wrong to cheer for MJ" and it makes the news in Ireland. Why? I'm beginning to question every person who was hunted down in this metoo age. The internet has made us miserable. Bring back the days when all I wanted was an MJ leak. Finally, and this point hit me in the fucking face while I was coughing up a lung during training... Every single documentary I have ever seen about John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer all had interviews with family, or people that knew them, either former friends or work colleagues. Think about that, and think about who was interviewed for this film. I don't see social media as the main problem here. On social media you can actually find some real information (court docs etc) about these cases. It's the mainstream media that is the problem. As I have shown yesterday, they just won't report anything potentially exculpatory to Michael Jackson. The reviews in the mainstream media almost universally treated these allegations as true, without any doubt. They didn't even point out that it's problematic if a documentary is so blatantly one-sided. They just ran with the allegations, salivating at the prospect that this could end MJ's legacy once and for all. Disgusting.
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Post by TonyR on Jan 29, 2019 11:57:53 GMT
My twitter TL seems back to about normal guys. Anyone else? Now that it appears to be calming down, one thing that's really struck me. I know this is entertainment news, but it is frightening that so many news companies were able to launch full stories based on tweets alone. I really believe more than ever, Twitter is the worst thing on the planet. Yet I use it. I use it mainly for sport news, running training, music etc. But to see how many people revolve around what's said on twitter, and the entitlement of those who feel that what they say on twitter carries weight, it is the cess pit of the earth. It's made mere-evaluate everything I see on Twitter. Even MJ fans. They think theyre doing good, but what use is spamming some morons tweet because they say something negative? I have been guilty of letting twitter and online news consume me the last few days. Its eaten away at me. But now whats eating me is how pathetic it's all become. Some critic in the States tweets "we were wrong to cheer for MJ" and it makes the news in Ireland. Why? I'm beginning to question every person who was hunted down in this metoo age. The internet has made us miserable. Bring back the days when all I wanted was an MJ leak. Finally, and this point hit me in the fucking face while I was coughing up a lung during training... Every single documentary I have ever seen about John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer all had interviews with family, or people that knew them, either former friends or work colleagues. Think about that, and think about who was interviewed for this film. I don't see social media as the main problem here. On social media you can actually find some real information (court docs etc) about these cases. It's the mainstream media that is the problem. As I have shown yesterday, they just won't report anything potentially exculpatory to Michael Jackson. The reviews in the mainstream media almost universally treated these allegations as true, without any doubt. They didn't even point out that it's problematic if a documentary is so blatantly one-sided. They just ran with the allegations, salivating at the prospect that this could end MJ's legacy once and for all. Disgusting. I haven't seen that much on mainstream media. Having said that, I avoid the tabloids!! But it was on BBC front page for a day (and that was relatively balanced) and a banner headline on a newspaper. If this would have been 10+ years ago every red top would have had it as front page.
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Post by Liberian Girl on Jan 29, 2019 12:31:23 GMT
I just wish Taj would use the money raised to promote the documentary that Respect77 helped make. That footage already says everything anyone needs to know about the allegations- it just needs to reach viewers on a mainstream channel
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Jan 29, 2019 12:45:22 GMT
If Taj doesn't reach his funding goal (he won't) I doubt he will actually do anything.
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