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Post by respect77 on Jul 30, 2019 4:17:13 GMT
Oh yeah, and Jane Doe alleged penetrative sex as well (only vaginal). So the only three accusers alleging penetrative sex (Wade, James, Jane) are these posthumous accusers represented by the same lawyers. These would also be the earliest victims. MJ does penetrative sex on them, but not on later victims. OK.
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Post by Vega on Aug 2, 2019 12:32:41 GMT
Apparently MTV is considering dropping the Michael Jackson name from the Vanguard award.
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Post by respect77 on Aug 2, 2019 13:44:00 GMT
Apparently MTV is considering dropping the Michael Jackson name from the Vanguard award.
Let them drop it.
1) They are irrelevant. 2) They have dropped it before when MJ was not cool. 3) They have always been shit to MJ despite of MJ putting them on the map.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2019 14:19:27 GMT
Apparently MTV is considering dropping the Michael Jackson name from the Vanguard award.
Let them drop it.
1) They are irrelevant. 2) They have dropped it before when MJ was not cool. 3) They have always been shit to MJ despite of MJ putting them on the map.
I hope they remove it for good. Stench of desperation from them leaking that they were "considering". People know the VMAs are coming up now. Job done.
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Post by Snow White on Aug 2, 2019 14:54:01 GMT
MTV doesn't deserve to have Michael's name associated with its awards, I'll never forget, nor forgive what they did to Michael in 2002 and how they allowed Jack Black to mock him the next year. Most of the recipients didn't even name it (just Britney and Rihanna if I remember correctly) but just Britney acknowledged and thanked his influence on her. If MTV decides to remove the name, they can shove it down their asses.
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Post by WildStyle on Aug 2, 2019 15:03:01 GMT
MTV are peasants and are now more known for trashy reality shows while MJ is the biggest star in the history of music. Nothing they do has any impact on anything in the world.
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Post by jaywonder on Aug 3, 2019 7:48:13 GMT
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Post by respect77 on Aug 3, 2019 8:04:23 GMT
She's lying too.
James wasn't on the Bad tour for the better part of the 18 months. Only 6 months, and even in that there was a break of several months. So I guess it was really altogether like 3-4 months. And his mother was always there. This acc. to Safechuck's own complaint.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 8:21:00 GMT
That's disappointing. Very disappointing.
Edit: Over it. It seems she hasn't even watched, so she's weighing in on a report she saw.
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Post by MattyJam on Aug 3, 2019 11:45:28 GMT
That's disappointing. Very disappointing. Edit: Over it. It seems she hasn't even watched, so she's weighing in on a report she saw. ^^ Which is even more absurd. She sees a news report on it, thinks it must be true, condemns MJ. How small is her brain? Isn't it funny how all the people who toured with MJ, Greg Phillinganes, Jonathan Moffett, Siedah Garrett, all defended him but the one person who went on to carve out a career as a solo artist sans-MJ talks as if LN is factual beyond reproach. Her comments smack of someone desperately trying to pander to the MeToo movement and not having the backbone to at least ask what are actually perfectly reasonable and logical questions. Makes me appreciate the likes of Madonna all the more, for having the guts to publicly ask these questions. People like Crow make me sick. Who would want a friend like that, who is so ready to turn on you when the chips are down? Funny how she didn't have anything bad to say about MJ from 2009-2018. Complete bandwagon jumper.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 11:57:29 GMT
That's disappointing. Very disappointing. Edit: Over it. It seems she hasn't even watched, so she's weighing in on a report she saw. ^^ Which is even more absurd. She sees a news report on it, thinks it must be true, condemns MJ. How small is her brain? Isn't it funny how all the people who toured with MJ, Greg Phillinganes, Jonathan Moffett, Siedah Garrett, all defended him but the one person who went on to carve out a career as a solo artist sans-MJ talks as if LN is factual beyond reproach. Her comments smack of someone desperately trying to pander to the MeToo movement and not having the backbone to at least ask what are actually perfectly reasonable and logical questions. Makes me appreciate the likes of Madonna all the more, for having the guts to publicly ask these questions. People like Crow make me sick. Who would want a friend like that, who is so ready to turn on you when the chips are down? Funny how she didn't have anything bad to say about MJ from 2009-2018. Complete bandwagon jumper. I had to run 13.5 miles with her Soak up the Sun song in my head THE WHOLE TIME this morning. It was torture. Couldn't shake it. Fuck. Her. I absolutely loathe that song. Always have. Always will.
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Post by MattyJam on Aug 3, 2019 12:04:59 GMT
^^ Which is even more absurd. She sees a news report on it, thinks it must be true, condemns MJ. How small is her brain? Isn't it funny how all the people who toured with MJ, Greg Phillinganes, Jonathan Moffett, Siedah Garrett, all defended him but the one person who went on to carve out a career as a solo artist sans-MJ talks as if LN is factual beyond reproach. Her comments smack of someone desperately trying to pander to the MeToo movement and not having the backbone to at least ask what are actually perfectly reasonable and logical questions. Makes me appreciate the likes of Madonna all the more, for having the guts to publicly ask these questions. People like Crow make me sick. Who would want a friend like that, who is so ready to turn on you when the chips are down? Funny how she didn't have anything bad to say about MJ from 2009-2018. Complete bandwagon jumper. I had to run 13.5 miles with her Soak up the Sun song in my head THE WHOLE TIME this morning. It was torture. Couldn't shake it. Fuck. Her. I absolutely loathe that song. Always have. Always will. It's not too disappointing to me, as I've never particularly rated her as an artist. She kind of falls under the category of artists who sold a shit-tonne in the 90s and now nobody can figure out why. I read an interview with her recently saying how she wasn't going to make anymore albums because nobody buys them and they don't make any money. Spoke volumes to me about a) the longevity of her appeal (or lack thereof) and b) her superficial motivations for wanting to make music in the first place Madonna's new album sold like shit (according to our friend Russg), but true artists create because they feel compelled to do so. Sheryl Crow was just in the right place at the right time. Seriously, who listens to Sheryl Crow in 2019?
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Post by respect77 on Aug 3, 2019 13:05:30 GMT
She was basically a one hit wonder. As to MJ, she was always a fairweather associate: wanted to be associated with him when he was cool, distanced herself when he wasn't. Talked shit in 2005, was nice again after he died. So this is just Sheryl being Sheryl. One cannot disappoint me who I never thought much of to begin with.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 13:10:02 GMT
She was basically a one hit wonder. As to MJ, she was always a fairweather associate: wanted to be associated with him when he was cool, distanced herself when he wasn't. So this is just Sheryl being Sheryl. One cannot disappoint me who I never thought much of to begin with. Ah shes had more than one hit. Ive always thought she was ok, but I was always way more impressed and interested in how she beat cancer. Someone said she made comments after the Bashir thing?
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Post by suzie on Aug 3, 2019 13:15:02 GMT
That's disappointing. Very disappointing. Edit: Over it. It seems she hasn't even watched, so she's weighing in on a report she saw. ^^ Which is even more absurd. She sees a news report on it, thinks it must be true, condemns MJ. How small is her brain? Isn't it funny how all the people who toured with MJ, Greg Phillinganes, Jonathan Moffett, Siedah Garrett, all defended him but the one person who went on to carve out a career as a solo artist sans-MJ talks as if LN is factual beyond reproach. Her comments smack of someone desperately trying to pander to the MeToo movement and not having the backbone to at least ask what are actually perfectly reasonable and logical questions. Makes me appreciate the likes of Madonna all the more, for having the guts to publicly ask these questions. People like Crow make me sick. Who would want a friend like that, who is so ready to turn on you when the chips are down? Funny how she didn't have anything bad to say about MJ from 2009-2018. Complete bandwagon jumper. What did Greg say?
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