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Post by Thriller on Aug 12, 2019 22:46:40 GMT
Where was his support when his lawyers were chasing to have Jordan deposed? Where was his support when his lawyers were chasing Jonathan to be deposed, on a date that they say, and reveal such things as his sexual history? Where was his support when he happily saw Brett and Macaulay's names mentioned in LN? Where was his support for Gavin in 2005? Once again 'Please feel sorry for me. I'm a victim. I'm such a lovely person... provided you don't see what goes on in court'. They should’ve asked him why he hit on that same stage 10 years ago and paid tribute to that same man. He didn't realise until 2012 remember... but then he says he 'knew it was true but I couldn't let myself go there' regarding 1993... and then said he feared the 'truth' coming out in 2005... leave him alone. It's 'trauma'.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 23:12:10 GMT
And the blue ticks are spouting their usual faux outrage BS suggesting the the MJVA drops MJ. Fuck off.
Wade can fuck off too. I bet he is deeply depressed that MJ's name is still being used in official MTV publications. He will have been especially pissed that Missy gives 0 fucks about his 'victimhood'. And it's this type of situation that will ensure that Wade will be unhappy forever. I hope he has another breakdown soon.
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Post by WildStyle on Aug 13, 2019 2:20:09 GMT
I can't wait to see Wade's downfall in the coming years. I'm not that type of person, but he truly deserves it. I hope life brings him nothing but pain from now on.
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Post by respect77 on Aug 13, 2019 3:44:06 GMT
And the blue ticks are spouting their usual faux outrage BS suggesting the the MJVA drops MJ. Fuck off. Wade can fuck off too. I bet he is deeply depressed that MJ's name is still being used in official MTV publications. He will have been especially pissed that Missy gives 0 fucks about his 'victimhood'. And it's this type of situation that will ensure that Wade will be unhappy forever. I hope he has another breakdown soon.
Remember that interview he gave on his way to the airport after LN? He was asked if he would want MJ's music to be muted and he answered something like he didn't care, it doesn't concern him any more bla-bla. Acted like he didn't care about what happens to MJ, he is so above that. I knew he was lying. His narcissistic ass is all about getting validation from the outside. I am pretty sure he expected a mass cancellation of MJ and he pretty much thought it would happen. Of course, he cared! That's why his mother phoned in to the school auditorium to take down MJ's name. That's why he commented on that case and tried to put pressure on the school committee and this again shows that he does care. Absolutely does! MJ's legacy might be somewhat wounded by it, but it is definitely not destroyed. And I am sure Wade is fuming inside that they didn't have the effect on MJ's legacy that he surely expected. Wade is a narcissist. He is all about outside validation. He is all about the power trip of having the means to destroy a 50+ year legacy. If he couldn't direct or choreograph the Cirque show, if he didn't have the talent to fulfill MJ's "prophecy" of him becoming the new Spielberg, then everything MJ has to die! That's his mindset.
The contention that MTV having MJ's name on an award will stop victims from coming forward is ridiculous in itself. And it just shows Wade's (and James's) cynicism of using real CSA victims and holding them up as a shield for themselves. Their case is only about their case, not about any other CSA victim and definitely not about the real ones. Every case is different and people not believing Wade and James has no bearing on any other case. MTV keeping MJ's name has even less bearing on any other case. The whole idea that to support real victims of CSA you have to believe every single allegation ever made is just ridiculous. It is very telling to me that Wade hides behind talking about CSA survivors in general and not about his own case. MTV shouldn't keep MJ's name because it will make it more difficult for CSA survivors to come forward? BS! This has no bearing on anyone else's case. Only the facts of that case have to do with someone else's case. You can't do CSA allegations as a tie-in sale.
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Post by Liberian Girl on Aug 13, 2019 6:18:09 GMT
And the blue ticks are spouting their usual faux outrage BS suggesting the the MJVA drops MJ. Fuck off. Wade can fuck off too. I bet he is deeply depressed that MJ's name is still being used in official MTV publications. He will have been especially pissed that Missy gives 0 fucks about his 'victimhood'. And it's this type of situation that will ensure that Wade will be unhappy forever. I hope he has another breakdown soon.
Remember that interview he gave on his way to the airport after LN? He was asked if he would want MJ's music to be muted and he answered something like he didn't care, it doesn't concern him any more bla-bla. Acted like he didn't care about what happens to MJ, he is so above that. I knew he was lying. His narcissistic ass is all about getting validation from the outside. I am pretty sure he expected a mass cancellation of MJ and he pretty much thought it would happen. Of course, he cared! That's why his mother phoned in to the school auditorium to take down MJ's name. That's why he commented on that case and tried to put pressure on the school committee and this again shows that he does care. Absolutely does! MJ's legacy might be somewhat wounded by it, but it is definitely not destroyed. And I am sure Wade is fuming inside that they didn't have the effect on MJ's legacy that he surely expected. Wade is a narcissist. He is all about outside validation. He is all about the power trip of having the means to destroy a 50+ year legacy. If he couldn't direct or choreograph the Cirque show, if he didn't have the talent to fulfill MJ's "prophecy" of him becoming the new Spielberg, then everything MJ has to die! That's his mindset.
The contention that MTV having MJ's name on an award will stop victims from coming forward is ridiculous in itself. And it just shows Wade's (and James's) cynicism of using real CSA victims and holding them up as a shield for themselves. Their case is only about their case, not about any other CSA victim and definitely not about the real ones. Every case is different and people not believing Wade and James has no bearing on any other case. MTV keeping MJ's name has even less bearing on any other case. The whole idea that to support real victims of CSA you have to believe every single allegation ever made is just ridiculous. It is very telling to me that Wade hides behind talking about CSA survivors in general and not about his own case. MTV shouldn't keep MJ's name because it will make it more difficult for CSA survivors to come forward? BS! This has no bearing on anyone else's case. Only the facts of that case have to do with someone else's case. You can't do CSA allegations as a tie-in sale.
It would be wrong for the industry in general to still celebrate the music and legacy of a proven paedophile. But MJ wasn't one, he has been accused and vindicated in life and then again accused in death by two men with highly dubious and problematic claims. This isn't enough to "cancel" Michael Jackson's tremendous impact and legacy. I think Wade is more concerned about how decisions like this reflect on himself and whether or not he is believed. He probably sees this as a personal affront. I think LN and it's initial outpouring of support from Oprah and the blue tick brigade gave Wade the misguided notion that he had finally managed to succeed in turning the public against MJ (and therefore one step closer to achieving his ultimate goal of a huge financial settlement). I think stuff like MTV keeping MJs name on the award and the school auditorium thing is a knock to Wade's ever so fragile ego and sense of self-importance (which is collossal).
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Post by elusivemoonwalker on Aug 13, 2019 8:23:17 GMT
Never stopped them supporting polanski etc. Big sigh of relief now epstein is gone.
Poor wade hit a raw nerve lol
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Post by respect77 on Aug 13, 2019 10:20:57 GMT
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Aug 13, 2019 12:36:41 GMT
Seeing all these copy and paste tweets being like "durr maybe we should re think the name of this award" is so annoying.
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Post by respect77 on Aug 13, 2019 13:39:08 GMT
Seeing all these copy and paste tweets being like "durr maybe we should re think the name of this award" is so annoying. A predictable type of blue ticks.
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Post by ShadowDeeps on Aug 13, 2019 17:50:06 GMT
So I just watched this (Chase the Truth). It was poignant and well done overall, but I had a few issues with it (especially since it’s not free, I feel for the price of admission, it could have been slightly better). I wish to preface this post by stressing I’m extremely grateful anyone was willing to put a pro-MJ movie out on any major platform in this LN day and age. 1) In the beginning of the movie, brief footage of Latoya Jackson is used when she mentions she will no longer be a “silent collaborator” for MJ’s “crimes”. We all know why she said this (she was under Jack Gordon’s abusive influence and would later recant this outrageous and untrue statement), but the movie never follows up on this or expounds upon why she said such a thing. 2) There’s also footage of MJ being questioned about whether or not he molested Brett Barnes in 1996 as the movie begins. The movie never follows up on this point to clarify that Brett Barnes has categorically denied ever being molested by MJ. What’s even worse is LN implicating he was molested and including his name without any consent whatsoever (although LN does acknowledge Brett Barne’s denials very briefly AFAIK), which “Chase the Truth” could have called out LN for (being a very unethical film) had it followed up on this. 3) This is more of a pet peeve than an issue I suppose, but I think it would have been more effective if they used MJ’s statement from 1993 regarding the very first allegations made against him instead. I realize this was used in LN and so it would have been redundant at best, but it was the very first time he was accused of such heinous acts and the pain in his eyes and voice was more tangible there. 4) When the time came to explain why the 1994 civil settlement came about, they neglected to mention two grand juries dismissed the case due to a lack of evidence (they could not even indict MJ), and they also neglected to mention the description given by Jordan Chandler of MJ’s private area did NOT match. 5) When explaining why Wade Robson’s claims are dubitable at best, I feel it would have helped to include Joy’s sworn testimony that the Robson family was only present with Michael at Neverland four times over the course of fourteen years. 6) There’s also a disclaimer in the beginning and the end of the movie expressly stating the views articulated by the participants of the film do not necessarily reflect those of Entertain Me or its team. I guess I could see why they included this, but I’m not sure if it was necessary and it almost seems cowardly in a way for something they endorsed and released onto majors platforms such as iTunes. 7) It’s mentioned that James’ and Wade’s lawsuits were eventually thrown out due to the statute of limitations. This is partially true, but the film neglects to say the Judge told Wade no rational fact finder could believe him because he perjured himself so many times. There was no mention of Brandi Jackson either, or the striking similarities James’ “story” of “abuse” bears to Victor Gutierrez’s book - or that James’ family was sued for upwards of eight hundred thousand dollars (EDIT: now we find out it’s closer to a little over twenty four million dollars!) before he made his claims of abuse... or that Wade auctioned off the actual memorabilia he “burned” during the credits of LN. I realize not everything could fit into one hour (the run time of the film) and it would have to be an hour and a half in length or longer to include all the points above. Overall I was quite pleased and would probably give it an 8/10 if I had to rate it. But if one was on the fence or convinced of MJ’s guilt, I’m not sure they would walk away from this film with their minds changed, especially since the topic of MJ’s allegations is such a comprehensive one. I suppose we’ll have to wait for Taj’s documentary for a truly exhaustive rebuttal.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 21:13:16 GMT
Latest update on the AB218 Damages Bill Bill Votes
Date: 08/12/19 Result: (PASS) Location: Sen Appropriations Ayes Count: 7 Noes Count: 0 NVR Count: 0 Motion: Placed on suspense file Ayes: Bates, Bradford, Durazo, Hill, Jones, Portantino, Wieckowski Noes: - NVR: - You can track the bill here. This bill is what matters. If statutes of limitations are no longer a barrier and the revival period is permissible - then it is possible that WR and JS will the ability pursue a new case/revive old case against MJ's entities. And as respect77 mentioned earlier in this thread - Finaldi etc, under the guise of 'The Leaving Neverland Support Network', are on the support list and actively lobbying for this bill. This tells us how important this bill is to them. Note: I contacted Assembly Member Lorena Gonzalez Fletcher to query who 'The Leaving Neverland Support Network' is and I got the following response from a staff contact: Nothing that can found on 'Aly Schmidt' - however it is obvious that WR/JS and their legal team of crooks are behind this 'network'.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 22:11:18 GMT
And the blue ticks are spouting their usual faux outrage BS suggesting the the MJVA drops MJ. Fuck off. Wade can fuck off too. I bet he is deeply depressed that MJ's name is still being used in official MTV publications. He will have been especially pissed that Missy gives 0 fucks about his 'victimhood'. And it's this type of situation that will ensure that Wade will be unhappy forever. I hope he has another breakdown soon.
Remember that interview he gave on his way to the airport after LN? He was asked if he would want MJ's music to be muted and he answered something like he didn't care, it doesn't concern him any more bla-bla. Acted like he didn't care about what happens to MJ, he is so above that. I knew he was lying. His narcissistic ass is all about getting validation from the outside. I am pretty sure he expected a mass cancellation of MJ and he pretty much thought it would happen. Of course, he cared! That's why his mother phoned in to the school auditorium to take down MJ's name. That's why he commented on that case and tried to put pressure on the school committee and this again shows that he does care. Absolutely does! MJ's legacy might be somewhat wounded by it, but it is definitely not destroyed. And I am sure Wade is fuming inside that they didn't have the effect on MJ's legacy that he surely expected. Wade is a narcissist. He is all about outside validation. He is all about the power trip of having the means to destroy a 50+ year legacy. If he couldn't direct or choreograph the Cirque show, if he didn't have the talent to fulfill MJ's "prophecy" of him becoming the new Spielberg, then everything MJ has to die! That's his mindset.
The contention that MTV having MJ's name on an award will stop victims from coming forward is ridiculous in itself. And it just shows Wade's (and James's) cynicism of using real CSA victims and holding them up as a shield for themselves. Their case is only about their case, not about any other CSA victim and definitely not about the real ones. Every case is different and people not believing Wade and James has no bearing on any other case. MTV keeping MJ's name has even less bearing on any other case. The whole idea that to support real victims of CSA you have to believe every single allegation ever made is just ridiculous. It is very telling to me that Wade hides behind talking about CSA survivors in general and not about his own case. MTV shouldn't keep MJ's name because it will make it more difficult for CSA survivors to come forward? BS! This has no bearing on anyone else's case. Only the facts of that case have to do with someone else's case. You can't do CSA allegations as a tie-in sale.
I do indeed - it reeked of insincerity. Making remarks about how he doesn't care what people do with MJ's legacy/music etc is all part of their 'i'm a good guy - please believe me!" shtick. I would love to know what was going through Wade and Chuck's mind when they got the news that MTV and Missy (proudly) announce the Michael Jackson's Vanguard Award. Chuck is not that deep. I think he is a bit of a pathetic drip who mimics/depends on Wade. I would like to see him interviewed on his own in a non-controlled environment to get a better idea about what makes him tick - I doubt his lawyers would ever allow that to happen, especially after the royal mess he made of his carefully scripted LN allegations. Wade on the other hand - my my. This is a huge blow to his idealised egotistical self-image. I was reading an article about narcissistic rage (from intense outbursts to passive-aggressive acts) and it explains that narcissists rage when they are reminded of their charade, manipulation, exploitation, inadequacy, shame, or self-loathing. I'm sure his statement was approved by his legal team but I have no doubt that this was behind it too. LMAO - yep!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 23:45:16 GMT
This is hilarious. Parts of Wade and Joy's deposition video's have been leaked!
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Post by respect77 on Aug 14, 2019 1:02:32 GMT
Latest update on the AB218 Damages Bill Bill Votes
Date: 08/12/19 Result: (PASS) Location: Sen Appropriations Ayes Count: 7 Noes Count: 0 NVR Count: 0 Motion: Placed on suspense file Ayes: Bates, Bradford, Durazo, Hill, Jones, Portantino, Wieckowski Noes: - NVR: - You can track the bill here. This bill is what matters. If statutes of limitations are no longer a barrier and the revival period is permissible - then it is possible that WR and JS will the ability pursue a new case/revive old case against MJ's entities. And as respect77 mentioned earlier in this thread - Finaldi etc, under the guise of 'The Leaving Neverland Support Network', are on the support list and actively lobbying for this bill. This tells us how important this bill is to them. Note: I contacted Assembly Member Lorena Gonzalez Fletcher to query who 'The Leaving Neverland Support Network' is and I got the following response from a staff contact: Nothing that can found on 'Aly Schmidt' - however it is obvious that WR/JS and their legal team of crooks are behind this 'network'. Thanks for the update. Seems to pass committees with no problem. Not even any suggestions for modification or something. Sigh.
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Post by Snow White on Aug 14, 2019 1:48:32 GMT
In case you can't see the LN lies video from the original link, it doesn't load on my lap or mobile. The video is explosive, there's no way haters can twist Robson's own filmed deposition and excuse any discrepancy from his deposition and that shit film.
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