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Post by HIStoric on Aug 15, 2019 8:02:20 GMT
Can't that bitchy anchor handle the facts or what was her problem? Good for Geraldo for calling out that shit film and everyone involved in it for what they are! Are you referring to the lady introducing this in this embedded Fox News video? She seems fine to me...? EDIT: Nevermind. I just saw a screenshot elsewhere online of Geraldo talking to a Fox News anchorwoman, and commenters were saying she apparently tried to shut him down when he talked about MJ's innocence.
Anyhow, I've kinda stayed away from this but this seems like a pretty solid development. I'm not sure yet if I'll watch a 30 minute video, but more importantly I don't imagine many non-fans will either. It would be fantastic if a fan goes through and makes a super quick 5 minute 'supercut' just showing Wade Robson continually contradicting himself and changing his story. Something super easy to digest within a few minutes, something super easy to share.
It's great that Fox News reported on this. Really hoping it'll get reported by other major outlets.
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Post by respect77 on Aug 15, 2019 9:05:14 GMT
Here's something short and to the point.
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Post by respect77 on Aug 15, 2019 13:27:44 GMT
Another short clip
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Post by TonyR on Aug 15, 2019 13:27:44 GMT
Can't that bitchy anchor handle the facts or what was her problem? Good for Geraldo for calling out that shit film and everyone involved in it for what they are! Are you referring to the lady introducing this in this embedded Fox News video? She seems fine to me...? EDIT: Nevermind. I just saw a screenshot elsewhere online of Geraldo talking to a Fox News anchorwoman, and commenters were saying she apparently tried to shut him down when he talked about MJ's innocence.
Anyhow, I've kinda stayed away from this but this seems like a pretty solid development. I'm not sure yet if I'll watch a 30 minute video, but more importantly I don't imagine many non-fans will either. It would be fantastic if a fan goes through and makes a super quick 5 minute 'supercut' just showing Wade Robson continually contradicting himself and changing his story. Something super easy to digest within a few minutes, something super easy to share.
It's great that Fox News reported on this. Really hoping it'll get reported by other major outlets.
I've just watched the 30 minute video. It's worth it. It's slightly flawed I think and not 100% sure it would change a person's mind but would make anybody in the middle cause to question it.
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Post by respect77 on Aug 15, 2019 13:30:06 GMT
The one good thing coming out of LN is that it can now be used as evidence against them.
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Post by suzie on Aug 15, 2019 13:43:42 GMT
Can't that bitchy anchor handle the facts or what was her problem? Good for Geraldo for calling out that shit film and everyone involved in it for what they are! Some of her talking points seemed to play devils advocate vs stating her outright opinion.
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Post by Snow White on Aug 15, 2019 14:48:51 GMT
Interesting thread explaining Robson's expenses, the money he owes to the estate,etc.
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Post by elusivemoonwalker on Aug 15, 2019 19:19:33 GMT
Thanks snow white. Intresting about the tabloid whores robson deposed especially the bit about francia.can someone refused to be doppsed for a civil suit? As its amazing after all these years such people still crave the attention.
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Post by respect77 on Aug 16, 2019 6:06:38 GMT
I see in epstein stories theres mention of a new law in N.Y about accusers under 50 can now sue for childhood abuse. Is this related to the law robsons lawyers are involved in
I read this article about this new New York law. It doesn't have anything to do with our case, but it does show that it is a clear tendency to pass such bills and there is no way the similar bill in California won't pass. That's where Wade and James could revive their case, although I think they would still have lots of difficulties to make it go to trial for other reasons, but we will see. Anyway, here I read about the New York version of this law and I don't think it is the right direction that things are going to here.
I can't help but thinking that the push for these type of laws across the USA is nothing but a populist move by politicians trying to cater to the MeToo sentiment. Yes, I can understand that sometimes victims don't come forward for long etc. but there is a good reason for statutes of limitations. Law should be fair not only to accusers but also to the accused. This requirement seems to be shifting in a heavy favor for any sex abuse accuser. How do you expect a school to defend itself and pay for allegations against someone who might have worked in the school 30-40 years ago? Is that really fair? This law has the potential to bankrupt schools, and other organizations and I am not sure it is fair considering current administrations of a school usually aren't the same people as who were decades ago. Sex abuse cases are difficult to investigate anyway, but they are even more difficult if they are historic cases. I am sure this will give compensation for lots of real victims, but I can't help feeling that the messiness this new law opens things up to is also a huge opportunity for false accusers. Also the whole industry characteristic of it (law firms already heavily fishing for accusers with advertisements etc) leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I don't think this is a good direction.
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Post by elusivemoonwalker on Aug 16, 2019 7:48:35 GMT
Totally agree. The usa has a bad enough reputation as it for been lawsuit/money obsessed. Opening a window for people to sue regardless of how long ago it is is like kids having free realm in a sweet shop. Lawyers will be salivating
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Post by respect77 on Aug 16, 2019 9:10:55 GMT
I can only imagine schools, churches, other organizations dealing with kids, are scared shit now. This can actually have tragic consequences for them. Imagine a team of former pupils filing a lawsuit against a school, saying they were abused there 50 years ago by a teacher who is long dead. How do you even begin to defend yourself if you are the school? Probably they would just settle and that would attract more accusers, among them opportunists - false accusers. When there is an organization under pressure to settle people will jump on that bandwagon left and right. There's just no way to investigate how many of those are false allegations and how many are true. The school will just pay everyone while going bankrupt. Paradise for opportunists.
It seems to me this is another chipping away of fundamental rights by the "progressive" mob. Catering to emotions, rather than reason. And I don't expect many people to speak up against the madness of it, because it is highly unpopular. No one wants to be called a "pedophile apologist". Of course, it is not that. And it is not against real victims. But there need to be some boundaries in order to be fair. If you are a real CSA victim and you are out of statutes of limitations it is unfortunate, but the law needs to be fair to both sides, needs to consider the difficulty of defending against decades old allegations on the part of the organization. And like Matty pointed out here a couple of weeks ago, from the POV of a CSA survivor, if you are one, money isn't necessarily justice. In the USA everything seems to revolve around money, but in many countries you can't even sue for CSA because it is a criminal matter, period. And you can put up a good argument for why that is rightfully so. Extend criminal statutes, not civil ones! I'd imagine real victims would rather find justice in seeing their abuser go to jail, than money. And if the abuser is dead? Well, then that's what you have to find satisfaction in.
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Post by respect77 on Aug 16, 2019 16:48:06 GMT
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Post by Snow White on Aug 16, 2019 22:50:42 GMT
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Post by ShadowDeeps on Aug 17, 2019 1:53:00 GMT
I appreciate Jennifer sticking up for MJ even in light of LN. She can readily discern how transparent and contradictory Wade’s and Jimmy’s claims are, even with the most superficial research. And this is coming from someone who didn’t even really consider herself MJ’s friend, just an employee. It’s a breath of fresh air and an entirely different attitude compared to the likes of Sheryl Crow and Tatum O’Neal, both of whom gladly swept MJ under the bus, more than once, for the sheer sake of public approval.
LN has truly distinguished MJ’s bona fide supporters from the fair weather, “former fans” who were only “fans” when it was convenient for them to be.
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Post by Snow White on Aug 17, 2019 4:49:22 GMT
See? She wasn't playing the devil's advocate, she was getting pissed at the facts Geraldo threw at the audience.
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