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Post by Liberian Girl on Aug 30, 2017 21:08:12 GMT
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August 30, 2017
Madonna’s ‘Career-Ending’ Album ‘Erotica’ Gets Rock Hall Of Fame Recognition
When Madonna released her album Erotica in October of 1992, she was called a slut, whore, and every other name used to demean women. She was even compared to Hitler. Madonna talked about the aftermath of the backlash while receiving an award from Billboard last December.
The book SEX, which was (incorrectly) seen as a pictorial accessory to the album, also caused a lot of backlash. It was at this point in her career that headlines ran day after day about Madonna’s career being over with. People were celebrating her alleged failures even though the book sold over a million copies worldwide while Erotica, which might not have lived up to sales of previous Madonna albums, still sold around six million copies.
The album actually earned some praise before the backlash really settled in. Rolling Stone gave the album four stars in November of 1992, calling it a post-AIDS album about romance. Entertainment Weekly, a magazine that had been so pro-Madonna throughout the early 1990s that some even joked they were on Madonna’s payroll, completely turned on Madonna with the release of Erotica. Music critic David Browne ripped on Madonna’s voice, her “coldness,” and her bad lyrics.
Erotica became known as the album that ended Madonna’s career. Of course, two years later, she released Bedtime Stories, which has sold around eight million copies worldwide and launched the longest-running No. 1 song of Madonna’s career,”Take a Bow.” Then, there was 1998’s Ray of Light, an album many consider the peak of Madonna’s career. However, 25 years later, Erotica is considered a classic. Some even say Madonna’s most maligned album (at the time) became a groundbreaking moment for feminism.
This past week, the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame has recognized Erotica as one of the most revolutionary albums of all time.
“If Madonna spent the ’80s detonating sexual boundaries, then she doubled down on her provocative stance with the release of 1992’s Erotica. From the first track, Erotica celebrates the agony and ecstasy of sex and desire. To articulate her lustful vibe, the album blends sinewy hip-hop grooves and glittery club beats,” the narrator says in the video, which features scenes from the video of Erotica, which was banned.
While Madonna fans celebrate the album being recognized, the sexual imagery in the video (as well as the book) has continued to be divisive within her fan base. There are those who think Madonna made an absolute mockery of herself at the time. However, there are others who think that by exploring her sexual fantasies, Madonna was groundbreaking in giving the world hardcore sexuality from a woman’s point of view – something that was a definite taboo in 1992.
It’s important to note that the album Erotica, as a whole, isn’t aural sex; it deals with self-destruction, AIDS awareness (another taboo topic at the time), tolerance of homosexuals (even more taboo for 1992), and one who is yearning for love. It produced some minor hits. The title track was one of the highest debuting singles ever, but immediately dropped off the charts. However, “Deeper and Deeper” became a decent hit in January of 1993. When the third single “Bad Girl” only peaked at No. 36, even Madonna’s biggest supporter Kurt Loder at MTV did a segment which announced the end of her career. It was a truly dark time for Madonna and the supporters she had left.
There are fans that are begging Madonna to release an updated 25th anniversary edition of Erotica in time for the holidays. However, judging by the way she was treated when the album was first released, perhaps Madonna doesn’t want to invest in something that will only bring back horrible memories.
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Post by TonyR on Aug 30, 2017 21:12:01 GMT
Have always loved this album.
Erotica Deeper and Deeper Rain Bad Girl Bye Bye Baby Why's It So Hard
Some of her best work ever.
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Post by MattyJam on Aug 31, 2017 7:06:26 GMT
This is when Madonna started getting good, for me. I like some of her earlier stuff, but mostly just selected songs. I feel with Madonna, the only essential 80s album is Immaculate Collection. But from the early 90s onwards, she did a fantastic run of albums from Erotica to American Life, with Bedtime Stories being my favourite and Music being the weakest of the bunch (but still good). After American Life, I think she became a bit more hit and miss.
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Post by Liberian Girl on Aug 31, 2017 7:18:00 GMT
I have always liked Erotica. While not my absolute favourite Madonna album, I think there are some brilliant tracks on there. I LOVE Erotica, Bad Girl, Rain and Deeper and Deeper.
In terms of Madonna being a divisive figure (particularly around the time of this album and the SEX book) she always will be. Some people don't like women who are overtly-confident, very sexual and very dominant. Madonna is all of those things. If she was a man, people wouldn't have been so uncomfortable with at least some of the things she got a hard rap for.
I love the song Human Nature - which was basically her reply to the backlash she received for the Sex book and Erotica album.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 10:23:10 GMT
This is great news, I LOOOVVVEEE this album.
Outstanding tracks and theme, she was just so I could not give a shit at the time and so daring.
Bad Girl Rain Deeper and Deeper Bye Bye Baby (You fucked it up) Thief of Hearts Waiting Why its so hard Erotica Fever
Just first rate Madge right there. Wonder how 59 year old Madonna feels about her 34 year old self with this album and infamous book with a metal cover, which showed her having sex and doing things such as giving Vanilla Ice a BJ.
I agree with Matty J, Immaculate Collection set the scene with the proto erotica sounding Justify my love and Rescue me, they introduced a steamier and more in your face Madonna, and I loved it. Especially when the Justify my love video got banned (All because a bit of tit) and Madonna got annoyed "It got banned as it showed people loving each other, if it had shown people blowing each other to bits, no one would have done a thing".
Then we got Truth or Dare or In Bed with Madonna, depending on the country you lived in, which had Ms Ciccone dissing ancient boytoy Warren Beatty, wearing pointy bras, having a Barney with record execs and telling us how one of her old school friends was now trash. Plus she gave a famous blowjob to an Evian bottle. Classic stuff. Then came the sex book and its fallout, it seemed Madonna was public enmey #1 and no more than a petulant little slut, the Pope threatened to excommunicate her and I loved every second of it. The craziness culminated in the famous Letterman interview in March 1994 "Why do you keep fucking with me you motherfucker".
Oh I only wish she was still like this, not this Bitch I'm Madonna nonsense. At least she is an Unapologetic bitch. I think people like me (Gays0 like her, because she is just a complete bitch.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 10:26:14 GMT
My name is Dita, I'll be your mistress tonight,
Give it up, do it my way, give it up and let me have it my way, I'll give you love, I'll hit you like a truck, I'll give you love, I'll teach you how to (fuck).
Uhhh!!! I don't think you know what pain is
Just classic lines to any opening song. - Madonna you crazy sadistic bitch!
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Post by respect77 on Aug 31, 2017 11:24:57 GMT
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inducts albums? Or in what context did they comment on it? I never heard of them inducting albums, just artists.
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Post by TonyR on Aug 31, 2017 18:35:14 GMT
This is great news, I LOOOVVVEEE this album. Outstanding tracks and theme, she was just so I could not give a shit at the time and so daring. Bad Girl Rain Deeper and Deeper Bye Bye Baby (You fucked it up) Thief of Hearts Waiting Why its so hard Erotica Fever Just first rate Madge right there. Wonder how 59 year old Madonna feels about her 34 year old self with this album and infamous book with a metal cover, which showed her having sex and doing things such as giving Vanilla Ice a BJ. I agree with Matty J, Immaculate Collection set the scene with the proto erotica sounding Justify my love and Rescue me, they introduced a steamier and more in your face Madonna, and I loved it. Especially when the Justify my love video got banned (All because a bit of tit) and Madonna got annoyed "It got banned as it showed people loving each other, if it had shown people blowing each other to bits, no one would have done a thing". Then we got Truth or Dare or In Bed with Madonna, depending on the country you lived in, which had Ms Ciccone dissing ancient boytoy Warren Beatty, wearing pointy bras, having a Barney with record execs and telling us how one of her old school friends was now trash. Plus she gave a famous blowjob to an Evian bottle. Classic stuff. Then came the sex book and its fallout, it seemed Madonna was public enmey #1 and no more than a petulant little slut, the Pope threatened to excommunicate her and I loved every second of it. The craziness culminated in the famous Letterman interview in March 1994 "Why do you keep fucking with me you motherfucker". Oh I only wish she was still like this, not this Bitch I'm Madonna nonsense. At least she is an Unapologetic bitch. I think people like me (Gays0 like her, because she is just a complete bitch. Forgive me, but I hate posts like this. It's one of the reasons people pigeonhole Madonna as a shock value artist that's all about sex. Although I grant you, that is a part of her, it totally detracts from the music. Personally I think she is an amazing writer and producer with some of the best pop songs of the last thirty years. As we all know not the best singer, dance blah, blah, blah.....but for me take away the sex, the reinvention Etc and just listen to her albums and there is amazing material there. As for albums like Erotica and beyond, for me, Madonna is like how we feel about Michael, it's frustrating that people think she peaked in the late Eighties. yes that was her most commercial and accessible but the best was yet to come. American Life for example is stunning. I was listening to Easy Ride today and had to put it on repeat.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2017 2:14:19 GMT
TonyR, I don't just like her because of her sex and shock attitude, I actually like the music too, but I consider myself a sexually liberated person. Sex is life and sex is natural, not something dirty and taboo. Poeple like you who think it is bad, sinful and dirty. Too many people are scared of, or condemning of sex and get the wrong attitudes turning to pron and not believing in birth control.
Fear breeds ignorance, Madonna will win my eternal respect as her attitude to sex is healthy and progressive. She showed us the beauty of sex and how it should be celebrated and respected, not feared or hushed up. And don't misconstrue and me say that gratuitous sex is fine and so is rape, all I am saying is that people need to know about sex, the pleasure and perils. If they know about healthy sex, they are less likely to have pregnancies, be victims of sexual violence or be scared of their bodies and changes.
If you can only see that I like Madonna as she is a sex icon and not as an artist and musician at all, then you are the sad one not me. I really hate ignorant and bigotted posts like yours that attack people with slightly more (In my case much more) opened minded views than yours. If I didn't like her music, do you really think I would give a shit about her shock value or attitude to sex.
Nicki Minaj on the other hand as a horrible attitude to sex, she is dirty, graphic and yet submissive to male masculine bullshit and I hate her, because she is a brainless slut who is basically nothing more than a singing sperm dumpster that takes women back to the Tarzan era, and she has no musical ability, her rapping is terrible. Same with all these female rappers with songs like Pop your Pussy and my Pussy be yanking.
Madonna on the other hand is a woman who has taken sex and put a feminine slant on it. She enjoys sex, but on her own terms and she is in charge, not all these female and mostly black singers and rappers who are nothing but singing hos for their musical pimps - Beyonce/Jay Z and Rihanna/Chris Brown.
And please don't iudge me until you see me dance my butt off to a Prince or a Madonna song, and not just dig it because they sing about sex and say fuck. I am not that immature or shallow.
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Post by TonyR on Sept 1, 2017 8:52:18 GMT
TonyR, I don't just like her because of her sex and shock attitude, I actually like the music too, but I consider myself a sexually liberated person. Sex is life and sex is natural, not something dirty and taboo. Poeple like you who think it is bad, sinful and dirty. Too many people are scared of, or condemning of sex and get the wrong attitudes turning to pron and not believing in birth control. Fear breeds ignorance, Madonna will win my eternal respect as her attitude to sex is healthy and progressive. She showed us the beauty of sex and how it should be celebrated and respected, not feared or hushed up. And don't misconstrue and me say that gratuitous sex is fine and so is rape, all I am saying is that people need to know about sex, the pleasure and perils. If they know about healthy sex, they are less likely to have pregnancies, be victims of sexual violence or be scared of their bodies and changes. If you can only see that I like Madonna as she is a sex icon and not as an artist and musician at all, then you are the sad one not me. I really hate ignorant and bigotted posts like yours that attack people with slightly more (In my case much more) opened minded views than yours. If I didn't like her music, do you really think I would give a shit about her shock value or attitude to sex. Nicki Minaj on the other hand as a horrible attitude to sex, she is dirty, graphic and yet submissive to male masculine bullshit and I hate her, because she is a brainless slut who is basically nothing more than a singing sperm dumpster that takes women back to the Tarzan era, and she has no musical ability, her rapping is terrible. Same with all these female rappers with songs like Pop your Pussy and my Pussy be yanking. Madonna on the other hand is a woman who has taken sex and put a feminine slant on it. She enjoys sex, but on her own terms and she is in charge, not all these female and mostly black singers and rappers who are nothing but singing hos for their musical pimps - Beyonce/Jay Z and Rihanna/Chris Brown. And please don't iudge me until you see me dance my butt off to a Prince or a Madonna song, and not just dig it because they sing about sex and say fuck. I am not that immature or shallow. Ha! This is the internet all over.
I say I don't like one of your posts and from that you make the following assumptions:
1. I think sex is bad, sinful and dirty 2. I attacked you in a ignorant & biggoted way 3. I have judged you and labelled you immature & shallow
I simply put that I hated the post as it makes others judge Madonna in a particular way. That's all.
However, from your response, I can now make the following assumptions:
1. You are very fragile & easily offended 2. You were probably bullied for your sexuality and now use it as a hammer to hit everyone over the head with & wrongly presume everyone is homophobic 3. You need to calm down
Having said that, I don't wish to start any beef. Are you MjPrince1976 from MJCC? If so, I see that you often say things that are over the top and seem attacking so I'll just put it down to the way to come across & move on.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2017 1:38:32 GMT
Yes I am, and don't psychoanalyse me, you know nothing about me and resorting to homophobia will not help your case, so shut up and do yourself a favour by avoiding me and it will be cool. You already have beef. It is set if off to the left yo, set it off to the right, SET IT OFF.
I have never met you and you have never met me, so how the fxxk can you claim to know me. You attack me for my opinions of Madonna as a sexual revolutionary and an icon in the recognition of sexuality worldwide.
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Post by respect77 on Sept 3, 2017 11:01:41 GMT
WTF?
Why the hell you are looking for homophobia where there is none? You remind me of this.
Especially ironic coming from a guy who across several Internet forums has the reputation of constantly making borderline racist and sexist comments.
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Post by TonyR on Sept 3, 2017 11:24:23 GMT
Yes I am, and don't psychoanalyse me, you know nothing about me and resorting to homophobia will not help your case, so shut up and do yourself a favour by avoiding me and it will be cool. You already have beef. It is set if off to the left yo, set it off to the right, SET IT OFF. I have never met you and you have never met me, so how the fxxk can you claim to know me. You attack me for my opinions of Madonna as a sexual revolutionary and an icon in the recognition of sexuality worldwide. I refer the honourable gentlemen to my point three above. 3. You need to calm down
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Post by Liberian Girl on Sept 3, 2017 11:34:21 GMT
I didn't see any homophobia, but no offense Triumph, I did feel that you jumped down Tony's post with a bit of anger there.
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