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Post by ghost on Feb 14, 2021 13:27:57 GMT
With the whole Britney thing blowing up now, just reminded me of this.
I'm not sure why Britney is considered a victim here, to be honest (the conservatorship, how she was exploited as a teen etc are a different thing). She did cheat on Justin, just like Wade did on Brandi. Why did Justin "have to" apologize to her? For writing a song about their break up? Do women also will have to apologize for all their man bashing breakup songs then too (Adele, Taylor Swift, Alanis Morisette, Lisa Marie Presley etc) or is it just a one way street now and men can't publish songs about cheating women and bad break ups any more but women will continue to be celebrated for doing the same to men? I am "looking forward to" the day when MJ will be made out to be a horrible person for Billie Jean and Dirty Diana.
Justin cheated on Britney first. And then slut shamed her when she did the same thing to him.
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Post by respect77 on Feb 14, 2021 15:22:09 GMT
Oh I see. I didn't know he cheated first.
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Post by Snow White on Feb 14, 2021 15:52:33 GMT
I didn't know he cheated either, then JT had no right to shame Britney or taking advantage of their breakup as he did but what was I expecting if he's a cynical and opportunistic asshole?
His apology is not sincere, JT is like those people who apologize because they got caught and the backlash he received was too great.
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Post by aazzaabb on Feb 20, 2021 21:28:44 GMT
Lots of talk now and interest in the Framing Britney doc. There was a conversation about it on ITV now and they were talking about the control and media treatment also. The whole time I was obviously thinking of MJ as well also and the media treatment of him, and then one of the guests -an American lady who I think worked with Britney in some capacity- said that Britney’s childhood was like Michael Jackson. Maybe this is going to change something in society? Maybe also open the door for MJ? Obviously this is Britney’s time but perhaps a sea change is on the horizon. Just came on here to post this. www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-56003714The press are doing a full 360 & apologising for previous treatment. It also makes me hopeful for the same for MJ one day, but unfortunately where as mental health is now seen so differently, any form of allegation is now seen as guilt immediately so would take for the people who made an allegation towards MJ to revoke it before we saw any type of change of behaviour towards him change. It's funny though, it's only when someone dies (Amy Winehouse, Caroline Flack) or have some event like Britney's meltdown before anyone thinks they should apologise or 'be kind', but they don't change towards those who are still living. They still rip into Madonna like she's fair game and because she seems tough enough to cope with it they continue. When she dies she'll get the same hero treatment they hypocritically gave MJ. Definitely agree with all the above. They’ll be the first to give us the Madonna Tribute Editions like they ever gave a fuck about her. I’d also go one farther and say many social media keyboard warriors are sort of just as bad as the media in their hunt for blood. Everyone is up in arms at the horrible treatment of Britney at the hands of the media/JT, and everyone reacts by way of horrible treatment and retaliation. They defend a person who was treated horribly by treating someone horribly. I’m completely gone off JT over the past year or more but he apologised wether it be by way of personal apology or a PR move. It was most probably PR -it obviously was- because of Framing Britney, but people online are so fucking hypocritical and go on about Britney or Janet’s unfair treatment and go full on revenge mode and literally want JT’s career ended and him to suffer because their so angry and aggrieved and hopped up on their own blood lust. If social media has thought us anything it’s that people are full of their own shit. Are these same people buying Janet’s and Britney’s albums? Have they and are they doing everything they can to support Janet & Britney? Or are they just sitting around waiting to be offended on behalf of people they haven’t been all that bothered about in years simply because they don’t like JT. As an MJ fan I’m constantly trying to wrap my head around why MJ was so mistreated by the world but all one has to do to know the answer to that question is spend 5 minutes on Twitter. Human beings need to get a fucking life.
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Post by respect77 on Feb 24, 2021 17:19:30 GMT
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Post by Snow White on Jun 24, 2021 3:52:58 GMT
I fin't find a longer audio of Britney defending herself in court against the conservatorship she's gone through for 13 years. It really broke my heart to hear her, I felt the pain and anger in her voice and in all honesty, she didn't demented or crazy like her father has claimed-
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Post by respect77 on Jun 24, 2021 7:02:13 GMT
I just read about her hearing. She basically sounds like a slave in a golden cage. If she's really so unwell psychologically that she needs conservatorship then why is she forced to perform, record? This doesn't seem right, but then why does the court allow this? Am I missing something?
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Post by HIStoric on Jun 24, 2021 10:22:57 GMT
I’m really glad this is getting so much attention, and I really hope she wins. It’s absurd and abusive that it’s been allowed to carry on as it has.
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Jun 25, 2021 0:41:25 GMT
It's really shocking how controlled she is. Good that's she's finally speaking about it.
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Post by Snow White on Jun 25, 2021 2:51:12 GMT
I heard Britney coherent and pissed as hell. I couldn't believe when I heard she isn't even allowed to get married or have another baby, her father and conservators have exploited her and taken advantage of her for too long. I don't think she's a threat to her children or herself anymore, Britney deserves to have her life back!
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Post by Russg on Jun 25, 2021 6:46:58 GMT
It's really shocking how controlled she is. Good that's she's finally speaking about it. To be fair though, I don't think the public are privy to all the details of her case. There might be stuff we don't know about which would explain why the courts are siding with her father all the time.
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Post by respect77 on Jun 25, 2021 7:22:19 GMT
It's really shocking how controlled she is. Good that's she's finally speaking about it. To be fair though, I don't think the public are privy to all the details of her case. There might be stuff we don't know about which would explain why the courts are siding with her father all the time. I don't doubt that she has real issues. However, if she does then why is she forced to perform against her will? She claims at one point she had to perform while having high fever. Unless this is all lies, it doesn't seem right and it doesn't seem like her guardian actually has her best interest at heart and isn't just another user and abuser in her life.
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Post by ash on Jun 25, 2021 13:57:07 GMT
I see this more cynical. Sometimes your own family is the biggest enemy, and they all seem to profit from her being in her golden cage.
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Post by HIStoric on Jun 26, 2021 5:39:52 GMT
(Non-paywalled link here)
Eyes are now turning to Britney Spears lawyer, who has been her conservatorship-approved lawyer since 2008, taken well over $3 million from her alone since then and never told her that she could petition for the conservatorship to end.
Absolutely revolting. He KNOWS that she's been wanting for this to end for YEARS now, yet he never told her what she had every right to know, and all the meanwhile he's been pocketing thousands from her on average every single week.
That poor woman.
"According to the court records, Mr. Ingham noted that Ms. Spears had been “hostile, aggressive, and extremely threatening toward the conservatorship,” especially in the presence of her boyfriend at the time, David Lucado. Mr. Ingham repeatedly mentioned Ms. Spears’s use of expletives while in Mr. Lucado’s presence, including once around her children."
Yeah I wonder why she's so hostile?? And heaven forbid she say a naughty word in front of her teenage sons! 🙄🙄
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Post by HIStoric on Jun 26, 2021 5:42:23 GMT
I just read about her hearing. She basically sounds like a slave in a golden cage. If she's really so unwell psychologically that she needs conservatorship then why is she forced to perform, record? This doesn't seem right, but then why does the court allow this? Am I missing something? I was reading about a lawyer who went on MSNBC to discuss conservatorship and he said that it's a dangerous two-edged sword. If the person in question is doing well under conservatorship and showing signs of mental well-being, then it's seen as working and therefore should continue. If the person in question is not doing well on the other hand, it's seen as they need more help and therefore the conservatorship continues.
It's a vicious cycle to be in.
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