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Post by SoCav on Jul 29, 2020 13:25:34 GMT
Do we know if that was the plan? Or was it recorded especially for the short film to give him more time to get up the stairs? Occam's razor would suggest the album version is an edit. A re-record of a song to give him more time to get up the stairs seems unlikely. Surely the video fits around the song, not the other way round....? Yeah, the short film was filmed before the album was finished, so it was not a re-record. No idea why they cut that bit of the verse out though.
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Post by Vega on Jul 29, 2020 13:33:56 GMT
Was it out of necessity then? Was Thriller the maximum length it could be at the time? It's only 42 minutes or so isn't it so would have thought it could have stood the extra 90 seconds. If you go much over 18/19 minutes a side on vinyl, the sound quality starts to suffer. That was one of the reasons MJ and his team were very unhappy with the test pressing of the record. It sounded way too thin because they squeezed way too much material onto it. I've always heard this but lots of albums in the 80s went way longer than 18 minutes per side. All of Phil Collins' 80s albums run at least 45 minutes. Triumph was 44 minutes. If they really wanted to include the extra verse for LIML they could have, it wouldn't have made Thriller sound like a tin can phone.
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Post by TonyR on Jul 29, 2020 14:25:40 GMT
Do we know if that was the plan? Or was it recorded especially for the short film to give him more time to get up the stairs? Occam's razor would suggest the album version is an edit. A re-record of a song to give him more time to get up the stairs seems unlikely. Surely the video fits around the song, not the other way round....? Yeah but most of his films played with the song in some way to make them work. Bad, Thriller, BoW, RTT Even Stranger in Moscow has an extra 'We're talking danger' at the end.
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Post by mjjfan810 on Jul 29, 2020 18:26:02 GMT
Is it not possible to have one thread about Quincy without it turning into a bitchfest?
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Post by suzie on Aug 2, 2020 4:30:11 GMT
When you (or Quincy, rather) say "violin", are we talking about the string melody in the second bridge or are we talking about the added violins on top of the choruses and the guitar solo part? Cause I can buy the second one - that Quincy might have added the violins on top of the synth pads. Q is a classically trained composer with an affinity for string arrangements, after all... I agree. You can kind of hear that across MJ tracks. Even the non MJ pinned tracks.
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Post by suzie on Aug 2, 2020 4:32:58 GMT
Slightly off topic, but I recently saw a video of Quincy belittling Prince's piano playing. It was turned into a meme by Prince fans where snippets of Quincy talking down on Prince's piano playing are interspersed with Prince doing great piano runs. To me it was another confirmation that Quincy has a tendency to be jealous of others and/or snobby towards pop artists. He was like "I don't think of Prince as a real piano player. Someone like Herbie Hancock is a real piano player." It wasn't even a recent interview so it can't be blamed on his age. It looked early 90s. So it's not just MJ that he belittled. Prince may not have been a great player by jazz or classical standards but he was still great. Quincy is a jazz/classical snob if you haven’t noticed
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Post by respect77 on Aug 2, 2020 5:46:53 GMT
Slightly off topic, but I recently saw a video of Quincy belittling Prince's piano playing. It was turned into a meme by Prince fans where snippets of Quincy talking down on Prince's piano playing are interspersed with Prince doing great piano runs. To me it was another confirmation that Quincy has a tendency to be jealous of others and/or snobby towards pop artists. He was like "I don't think of Prince as a real piano player. Someone like Herbie Hancock is a real piano player." It wasn't even a recent interview so it can't be blamed on his age. It looked early 90s. So it's not just MJ that he belittled. Prince may not have been a great player by jazz or classical standards but he was still great. Quincy is a jazz/classical snob if you haven’t noticed I sure did.
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