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Post by kaeleah on Dec 20, 2017 5:58:45 GMT
Great news indeed!! Merry Christmas, Wade
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Post by respect77 on Dec 20, 2017 6:07:57 GMT
Fantastic news!
Finaldi's bitter reaction is predictable. Of course, not telling AP readers the numerous occasions that Wade was caught in lies during this proceeding supposedly in search for the "truth"...
And if his allegations were true he would sue his mother not companies in all kind of contrived ways. If his allegations were true then she was the biggest facilitator, not MJ's companies. But of course the allegations are not true, so it is predictable he would go for the money.
As for the Estate getting the case dismissed, of course they would. MJ is not here to defend himself, so they are in a major disadvantage there. So of course they are going to fight for the case to be dismissed.
And Finaldi also misrepresents the legalities of the case. As usual. He is as mush of a liar as his client is.
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Post by dancingmjsdream on Dec 20, 2017 6:17:42 GMT
Wade can go to hell.
Great news.
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Post by jaywonder on Dec 23, 2017 18:24:44 GMT
Is it me or are the people who are so steeped in the "He's guilty"/MJFacts mindset that they're condescending when discussing the case with people who believe he was innocent?
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Post by Thriller on Dec 23, 2017 19:20:30 GMT
Is it me or are the people who are so steeped in the "He's guilty"/MJFacts mindset that they're condescending when discussing the case with people who believe he was innocent? Yes. A lot like to make out as if every fan who believes MJ is innocent is blinded due to liking his music. Often they say that sort of thing as they don't actually have an argument to put forward to refute you. I often see 'MJ fans will never admit he was every guilty, whatever proof is put forward'... That's another stupid one. If MJ fans had the mindset of 'he's innocent, end of' then why on earth do they take time to read court documents? What would be the point if, irregardless of what we read, we think he's innocent?
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Post by jaywonder on Dec 24, 2017 8:12:10 GMT
Read this on another forum I'm pretty sure the person who says that hangs out on the forums that mainly bash Michael LOL I again want to say thanks to Matty for launching this forum and giving fans another great platform to discuss MJ and meet one another And many thanks to people like respect and you all who have done the research and continue to do so. We all owe you a lot
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Post by Thriller on Dec 24, 2017 9:14:29 GMT
That's just a blanket statement. Using the word 'plenty' is just nonsense. There are millions of MJ fans so there'd have to be hundreds or thousands of people you've seen that are fans of the music, but have doubts. I swear that sort of nonsense is used when someone is losing an argument.
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Post by respect77 on Dec 24, 2017 9:31:08 GMT
The just the good old Argumentum ad populum fallacy. LOL.
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Post by suzie on Dec 25, 2017 14:44:56 GMT
That's just a blanket statement. Using the word 'plenty' is just nonsense. There are millions of MJ fans so there'd have to be hundreds or thousands of people you've seen that are fans of the music, but have doubts. I swear that sort of nonsense is used when someone is losing an argument. Honestly most people don't care at this point. People are going to believe what they want. Because unless you follow stuff closely, you really can say either way.
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Wondering Who
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Post by rhilo on Dec 26, 2017 2:53:14 GMT
I don't know why you guys even visit MaxJax. I went there once and saw one members avatar which had MJ's head photoshopped on to a womans body, and it was clear from that alone that the tone of the board was disrespectful to MJ. It's a strange site. It's clearly devolved into a hater board masquerading as a fansite. Maybe that's their "angle" to separate them from other MJ boards, but it's not a place I would want to hang out as a Michael Jackson fan. That forum wasn't originally like that, but somewhere around 2011 or 2012 it took a nosedive that one of the founders who also owned the domain name shut it down because he felt there was no respect for Michael anymore. The current forum under a different domain name was started by the husband and wife duo (? can't even remember their usernames as it's been a while since I visited that place) who were mods in the original forum but clearly had no respect for Michael. From what I gathered, they were fans at some point, but not anymore.
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The Legend Continues
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Post by TonyR on Dec 26, 2017 11:30:52 GMT
I don't know why you guys even visit MaxJax. I went there once and saw one members avatar which had MJ's head photoshopped on to a womans body, and it was clear from that alone that the tone of the board was disrespectful to MJ. It's a strange site. It's clearly devolved into a hater board masquerading as a fansite. Maybe that's their "angle" to separate them from other MJ boards, but it's not a place I would want to hang out as a Michael Jackson fan. That forum wasn't originally like that, but somewhere around 2011 or 2012 it took a nosedive that one of the founders who also owned the domain name shut it down because he felt there was no respect for Michael anymore. The current forum under a different domain name was started by the husband and wife duo (? can't even remember their usernames as it's been a while since I visited that place) who were mods in the original forum but clearly had no respect for Michael. From what I gathered, they were fans at some point, but not anymore. Yeah, was great at onetime. Similar vibe to here. Then I got banned and it all went downhill!
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Post by Thriller on Jan 27, 2018 6:11:36 GMT
I thought this was worth sharing from Wade's latest blog post. Keep in mind his entire court case centres on him having breakdowns due to realising he was sexually abused.
'In my classes, I talk about my story of external success and all of the pressure and stress that came along with that. About my fruitless search for happiness and fulfillment via my external achievements. About how I was educated out of play and learned to be devastatingly serious. And how all of this led to complete breakdowns and the (temporary) destruction of my relationship with my gifts.'
This totally contradicts his entire court case.
The 'pressure and stress' that came from his 'external success' (ever humble) and his 'fruitless search for happiness and fulfillment via my external achievements', along with 'hiw I was educated out of play and learned to be devastatingly serious', all led to complete breakdowns.
So, which is it? The breakdowns were caused by realising, at 29 years of age, that among other things, being anally raped, wasn't loving, or they were caused by issues with his career? Now which sounds like the more likely scenario? This whole blog post screams 'Joy is to blame' without him saying so. Joy had Wade and his sister Chantal doing 3-4 auditions a day between 3-7 pm. MJ was the one telling Joy to let Wade have his childhood.
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Post by respect77 on Jan 27, 2018 12:04:44 GMT
^ Consider this in addition.
Joy Robson in that 2011 Infinite Dance Cast interview:
In an 1995 article about the Robsons:
Joy Robson in her 2016 deposition about MJ:
Wade's current blog post:
So who do these unhealthy work attitudes really come from? Joy Robson, not Michael Jackson. In fact in this blog post Wade directly echos his mother:
Joy:
So how was MJ turned into the scapegoat for all this?
And yes, an even bigger issue is that here he directly contradicts everything he built his court case on. In his court case he claims his breakdowns were a result of realizing sexual abuse by MJ, yet here he talks about the pressure to achieve as the reason (and his problems with that long predate his alleged realization of sexual abuse). So which one is it?
Thing is, he can fool people with this crap who do not have a complete view on his case. But those who actually have that can easily see how full of BS and contradictions it is.
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Post by respect77 on Jan 27, 2018 16:34:14 GMT
This is what they wrote in his complaint.
From his declaration:
Notice the contradiction of this narrative to what he says in his blog post - ie. that the reason for his breakdowns was the pressure to achieve and succeed, predating his realization of alleged sexual abuse!
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Post by Snow White on Jan 27, 2018 20:05:10 GMT
Joy is another case of a mother living her dreams of fame and stardom through her children. We've seen/heard from Shirley Temple, Elizabeth Taylor, Michael himself and Macaulay Culkin that were their parents who pressured to work on showbusiness since a very young age, putting on them responsibilities children of their age shouldn't had had, exploiting them and damaging them at the end, not other external people. Michael tried to help, plead to Joy not to ruin Robson's childhood and how that son of a bitch paid him? Using him as a scapegoat to get money. He should've sued his mother, not Michael.
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