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Post by NatureCriminal7896 on May 18, 2021 10:58:46 GMT
while Michael was an normal human being and a smart man. sometimes i feel and others felt he should of gone to therapy. even his own family told him to go. i'm not saying not nothing was wrong with him mentally BUT he did have an bad childhood and pretty much struggle with childhood trauma his whole life. sometimes i feel if he got the help he needed he probably would of had a better life and alot things wouldn't had happen.
i'm not saying changing who he was because i'm pretty sure we all loved Michael for who he was because that was made him unique but at the sametime he should gone to therapy.
as someone been going to therapy for 10 years now it has help me with my mental heath and try to handle life alittle bit better.
nobody perfect Michael wasn't perfect (even though he was an perfectionist lol no pun) and he did have some good times in his life but it's an opinion from me and others fans.
i really hope he's at peace now. may he r.i.p. 🕊🕊🕊🕊
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Post by respect77 on May 18, 2021 11:42:01 GMT
He was clearly traumatized by his childhood (and then also by the false allegations) but I don't know how safe he felt with therapy. It's very unfortunate that he couldn't trust anyone, including doctors. People tell their therapist their deepest secrets and issues, but how sure an MJ could be they wouldn't "accidentally" leak to some tabloid?
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Post by HIStoric on May 18, 2021 13:56:52 GMT
Yeah, Neverland and the whole ‘Peter Pan Syndrome’ (for lack of a better term) he had was essentially his way of dealing with his traumatic childhood and it clearly wasn’t the healthiest method. I wish he did go to therapy to get help through what he was experiencing, I do sometimes wonder how differently things would be. He was clearly traumatized by his childhood (and then also by the false allegations) but I don't know how safe he felt with therapy. It's very unfortunate that he couldn't trust anyone, including doctors. People tell their therapist their deepest secrets and issues, but how sure an MJ could be they wouldn't "accidentally" leak to some tabloid? I can see what you mean. While it might not have eased any doubts he may have had about it, I’m pretty certain therapists are literally bound by law to keep strict confidentiality unless someone’s life is in danger. If whatever he said got out, even accidentally, MJ would be in for a pretty lucrative payday and that therapists whole reputation and career would rightfully be in serious jeopardy.
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Post by respect77 on May 18, 2021 14:04:56 GMT
I can see what you mean. While it might not have eased any doubts he may have had about it, I’m pretty certain therapists are literally bound by law to keep strict confidentiality unless someone’s life is in danger. If whatever he said got out, even accidentally, MJ would be in for a pretty lucrative payday and that therapists whole reputation and career would rightfully be in serious jeopardy. I know that. Yet, the photos and documents of his scalp burning injuries got out, for example.
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Post by Snow White on May 18, 2021 17:00:24 GMT
I too wished at times he had gotten the help he clearly needed but I imagine he had fears of having his demons exposed to the media.
Wasn't also leaked his experiences while he was on rehab to the tabloids when he was still alive? I don't see therapists keeping confidentiality knowing how lucrative stories about Michael have been over the years. Therapists could've shielded themselves in anonymity.
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Post by butterflies2 on May 18, 2021 22:42:48 GMT
It would have definitely benefitted him. He may have responded well to music or art therapy if not just talk therapy or cbt. I always thought he was so strong, but realize now that he was broken in a lot of ways
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Post by amaya on May 19, 2021 3:59:38 GMT
I do wish he had gone to therapy, too. Based on what we know about his childhood he no doubt had some trauma that he probably never learned to process properly. However, he came up during an era when mental health therapy was not really a thing, so maybe he was taught to just "suck it up" and keep it in. I'm sure the risk of a therapist leaking info to the tabloids is also a good reason.
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Post by respect77 on May 19, 2021 4:49:34 GMT
I always felt like these long phone calls with families, such as the Glenda tapes where he goes on and on about his childhood were kind of his "therapy". At least his attempt at venting. Of course, these couldn't provide professional guidance though.
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Post by butterflies2 on May 19, 2021 4:51:49 GMT
Yeah, it’s like he was always seeking someone to speak to, whether it was individuals or families not in the public eye.
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Post by Snow White on May 19, 2021 5:24:56 GMT
On one hand it was admirable in some ways Michael befriending different kinds of people no matter their walks of life. On the other, it was cringe worthy he was prone to befriend individuals with questionable behavior and credibility that offered him mumbo jumbo bullshit to "improve" his life instead of giving him reasonable pieces of advice to help him.
Too bad he didn't meet or have honorable psychologists and psychiatrists as his friends.
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Post by SoCav on May 28, 2021 7:21:52 GMT
I always felt like these long phone calls with families, such as the Glenda tapes where he goes on and on about his childhood were kind of his "therapy". At least his attempt at venting. Of course, these couldn't provide professional guidance though. Agreed, he clearly needed an outlet and seemed to use those phone calls for that purpose. He indeed goes on and on, uninvited and in a way that sounds like he has a lot to get off his chest. But that's what strikes me. It totally makes sense that he would find it difficult to trust anyone, including professionals. Yet, he had no problem calling all these completely random people and telling them some of the most intimate details of his life. Or he'd welcome these unsavory 'advisors' like Schmuley Boteach into his inner circle. When you look at it, he actually did not seem to find it that difficult to disclose private things, you could even say he was eager to. It's just that he unfortunately was a really poor judge of character - which, given how he was surrounded by these types of vultures since his childhood, is of course not surprising.
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