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Post by NatureCriminal7896 on Aug 29, 2021 10:30:32 GMT
Paul Anka was “beyond pi**ed” with Michael Jackson for “stealing” a recording of a song they wrote together at Anka’s home studio in the early 1980s. The “Diana” crooner first met Jackson and his family in the ’70s when they used to attend Anka’s shows in Las Vegas. “I got close to them,” he told Page Six recently, adding that Jackson wanted to be on his 1983 album “Walk a Fine Line,” so they got together to collaborate on a song. “I sent the tapes to Los Angeles for him to meet me there so we could put the rest of the band on. They called me from there a couple of days later and said, ‘Mr. Jackson stole the tapes.'” Anka said he was also told Jackson wouldn’t go and record the song. Flabbergasted, Anka says he immediately contacted his lawyers, who happened to also represent Jackson. “I said, ‘Guys, am I missing something? We’ve got a contract,'” Anka recalled. “‘Well, Paul, you know he’s got “Thriller” out and it’s taking off. He just doesn’t want anything else out there, blah blah. And we can’t find the contract.’ I said ‘What? Okay, boys, I see who’s more important. You’re getting sued. I’m out of here.'” Anka said they returned the tapes to him and he left the law firm. “Michael went on to be what Michael is, deservedly so as an artist. He was a great artist,” Anka conceded. And that was the end of it, or so Anka thought. In 2009, just before Jackson’s sudden death, he released the song “This Is It,” which Anka immediately recognized as the song they penned together. “I got ahold of the lawyers, who were the same two lawyers who screwed me in the beginning,” he explained. “I said, ‘Hey guys, that’s my song with Michael. We have a problem here, boys. This ain’t going to fly; you’ve got about two, three hours to fix this.'” Anka added that Jackson “had copied the tape and put it in the drawer.” “It was very simple. I said, ‘I want half of everything or it’s not coming out.’ And we got what we wanted.” Jackson’s estate did not return our request for comment, but at the time, released a statement to the New York Times, “The song was co-written by the legendary Paul Anka.” Anka’s rich catalog of publishing royalties also includes the Tom Jones hit “She’s a Lady,” the English lyrics to the Frank Sinatra classic “My Way” and the song that has earned him the most money over the years, the theme song for “The Tonight Show.” The 80-year-old singer/songwriter is still going strong with a new album, “Making Memories,” and a tour, which begins on Oct. 22. 2021 “Anybody who says, ‘I’m thinking of retiring,’ you know what I say to them? ‘You already have.’ I’ve never lived like that. I left home at 15, got into the whole work ethic, got real lucky and I don’t even know what it means. “I don’t set my life by numbers, it’s ridiculous. I don’t feel my age unless I’m sick. When I’m not sick, I couldn’t care less, I keep going forward. They throw dirt on you if you stand still. I’m in this for the long haul. I look at it in five-year increments. And if I’ve got my health, then do it.” pagesix.com/2021/08/24/paul-anka-was-beyond-pissed-with-mj-over-stolen-tapes/ |
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Post by NatureCriminal7896 on Aug 29, 2021 10:48:54 GMT
i feel the estate should had at least ask Paul before releasing the song. i love this is it. beautiful song.
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Post by pg13 on Aug 30, 2021 8:06:59 GMT
Rubbish!
Michael Jackson never released the song "This Is It" in life and the MJ Estate only put it out with the documentary film AFTER Michael died.
Anka is a tit who only ever made these claims after Michael died.
Page Six and Anka trying desperately to make this seem like more than it actually was.
File under "NONSENSE"....
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Post by NatureCriminal7896 on Oct 2, 2021 8:39:51 GMT
agree. i really doubt michael stole these tapes.
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Post by HIStoric on Oct 2, 2021 9:10:11 GMT
It's not exactly 'stealing' if Michael himself is on the bloody tapes. He was literally co-author of those songs! I'd say he was within every right to have his own copy of those tapes.
In saying that, the Estate should've still asked Paul Anka for permission to release it because as co-author, it still is partly his work too.
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Post by NatureCriminal7896 on Oct 2, 2021 19:38:37 GMT
agree. the estate should of ask him but i have a feeling they pretty much knew what they was doing. like i said i love the song but it was a money grab. they didn't even wait until a year or so to start making money off of michael. very sad.
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Post by HIStoric on Oct 3, 2021 1:02:34 GMT
agree. the estate should of ask him but i have a feeling they pretty much knew what they was doing. like i said i love the song but it was a money grab. they didn't even wait until a year or so to start making money off of michael. very sad. I'm fine with them making money, Michael's music literally was a business after all. Everything he put out while alive was to make money and everything the Estate does is to make money as well. It's when they scrap the bottom of the barrel like some Estate's do that I take issue, which to their credit they haven't yet (in fact how conservative they've been the last 6-7 years has become the bane of MJ fans existence 😂).
What's interesting with the This Is It song is that, singles wise, it was only released as a radio single. The only way for a consumer to actually buy it was to buy the full TII soundtrack or to buy the cheaper EP that featured just the previously unreleased bonus tracks. No single was available! So This Is It never actually made any single sales, and thus it barely charted anywhere. Went and came with barely a ripple. Of course, you think that "oh they wanted fans to buy the more expensive EP" and yeah probably, but I still think they would've made way more money selling it as a single.
I don't think it's the kind of song that would dominate charts, but given it was so soon after MJ's death and the film was such a success for a music doco I still feel it would've had some success, that a lot more people would happily spend 99c to buy it on iTunes over a $4.99 EP. Seems like a weird and arguably short-sighted decision. |
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Post by TonyR on Oct 3, 2021 15:19:22 GMT
It's an awful song anyway.
The fact that it was played at the end of This Is It, following all the genius greatest hits featured in the film is a travesty of a footnote.
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Post by NatureCriminal7896 on Oct 4, 2021 11:59:05 GMT
agree. the estate should of ask him but i have a feeling they pretty much knew what they was doing. like i said i love the song but it was a money grab. they didn't even wait until a year or so to start making money off of michael. very sad. I'm fine with them making money, Michael's music literally was a business after all. Everything he put out while alive was to make money and everything the Estate does is to make money as well. It's when they scrap the bottom of the barrel like some Estate's do that I take issue, which to their credit they haven't yet (in fact how conservative they've been the last 6-7 years has become the bane of MJ fans existence 😂).
What's interesting with the This Is It song is that, singles wise, it was only released as a radio single. The only way for a consumer to actually buy it was to buy the full TII soundtrack or to buy the cheaper EP that featured just the previously unreleased bonus tracks. No single was available! So This Is It never actually made any single sales, and thus it barely charted anywhere. Went and came with barely a ripple. Of course, you think that "oh they wanted fans to buy the more expensive EP" and yeah probably, but I still think they would've made way more money selling it as a single.
I don't think it's the kind of song that would dominate charts, but given it was so soon after MJ's death and the film was such a success for a music doco I still feel it would've had some success, that a lot more people would happily spend 99c to buy it on iTunes over a $4.99 EP. Seems like a weird and arguably short-sighted decision. i'm not sure if your joking. but in my opinion it was wrong what they did. waited after he die? Michael had been though so much and that what they did to him. like honestly? i haven't saw the movie because to me i'm not ready to see Michael sick on stage. i know the movie did good etc but like some fans they can't watch it. maybe one day i will, but like others i don't wanna see Michael sick on stage. but shoutout to anyone who did watch the movie. you are very brave. but yeah it was an money grab and they still making money off of something Michael didn't want to do and pretty much died from. |
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Post by NatureCriminal7896 on Oct 4, 2021 12:22:18 GMT
I'm perfectly fine this is it didn't do good. though, i really doubt it. i see fans who do like this song others who doesn't. everyone have their own taste and opinion on this song.
to me it's a beautiful song i just wish the estate ask paul. heck just having the movie release with the same name would been okay in my opinion.
though, i guess in someways it does make sense why they release this song with movie. another money grab.....
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Post by pg13 on Oct 4, 2021 12:31:09 GMT
I'm fine with them making money, Michael's music literally was a business after all. Everything he put out while alive was to make money and everything the Estate does is to make money as well. It's when they scrap the bottom of the barrel like some Estate's do that I take issue, which to their credit they haven't yet (in fact how conservative they've been the last 6-7 years has become the bane of MJ fans existence 😂).
What's interesting with the This Is It song is that, singles wise, it was only released as a radio single. The only way for a consumer to actually buy it was to buy the full TII soundtrack or to buy the cheaper EP that featured just the previously unreleased bonus tracks. No single was available! So This Is It never actually made any single sales, and thus it barely charted anywhere. Went and came with barely a ripple. Of course, you think that "oh they wanted fans to buy the more expensive EP" and yeah probably, but I still think they would've made way more money selling it as a single.
I don't think it's the kind of song that would dominate charts, but given it was so soon after MJ's death and the film was such a success for a music doco I still feel it would've had some success, that a lot more people would happily spend 99c to buy it on iTunes over a $4.99 EP. Seems like a weird and arguably short-sighted decision. i'm not sure if your joking. but in my opinion it was wrong what they did. waited after he die? Michael had been though so much and that what they did to him. like honestly? i haven't saw the movie because to me i'm not ready to see Michael sick on stage. i know the movie did good etc but like some fans they can't watch it. maybe one day i will, but like others i don't wanna see Michael sick on stage. but shoutout to anyone who did watch the movie. you are very brave. but yeah it was an money grab and they still making money off of something Michael didn't want to do and pretty much died from. Michael Jackson wasn't and didn't look "sick" at any point in TII! Even Murray's lawyers agreed MJ didn't look ill in the footage WE haven't seen. Let's stop perpetuating this nonsense which has been debunked for years now..... |
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Post by HIStoric on Oct 4, 2021 12:43:35 GMT
i'm not sure if your joking. but in my opinion it was wrong what they did. waited after he die? Michael had been though so much and that what they did to him. like honestly? i haven't saw the movie because to me i'm not ready to see Michael sick on stage. i know the movie did good etc but like some fans they can't watch it. maybe one day i will, but like others i don't wanna see Michael sick on stage. but shoutout to anyone who did watch the movie. you are very brave. but yeah it was an money grab and they still making money off of something Michael didn't want to do and pretty much died from. I’m not sure why you think I’m joking, or when this conversation suddenly switched from the topic of the song to the film since we’ve been discussing only the song so far. But if you want to suddenly change to the film itself, personally, I’m fine with the film and I don’t find it hard to watch. I think it did a good job for what was needed at the time. That is: to give the public some resolution about what his final show was going to be like but also to help the organisers recover some money from the project that they had invested millions into but now had to refund all concertgoers (I imagine most concertgoers opted for a refund rather than the ‘collector ticket’ package they offered). But also because it helped support the MJ Estate to pay back the literal hundreds of millions of dollars he left in debt that they now had to deal with. In fact, that was literally the biggest reason Michael was doing the shows in the first place - because of all of his debt he had accumulated. He wasn’t doing it for fun. Again, he is a business and he is there to make money. The idea to release a documentary from footage that was already commissioned by Michael was a pretty straight forward one at the time given all the circumstances. I totally understand why some fans no longer feel comfortable watching the film, knowing how unpleasant it was for Michael behind the scenes. I don’t hold it against them, it’s totally understandable. Personally, I’m not bothered. The film doesn’t focus on that aspect, so it’s not a hard watch and never has been for me. I see the film as a showcase for his genius, and to share his unforeseen final visions with the world that he never got a chance to share. |
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Post by NatureCriminal7896 on Oct 4, 2021 12:50:04 GMT
i'm not sure if your joking. but in my opinion it was wrong what they did. waited after he die? Michael had been though so much and that what they did to him. like honestly? i haven't saw the movie because to me i'm not ready to see Michael sick on stage. i know the movie did good etc but like some fans they can't watch it. maybe one day i will, but like others i don't wanna see Michael sick on stage. but shoutout to anyone who did watch the movie. you are very brave. but yeah it was an money grab and they still making money off of something Michael didn't want to do and pretty much died from. Michael Jackson wasn't and didn't look "sick" at any point in TII! Even Murray's lawyers agreed MJ didn't look ill in the footage WE haven't seen. Let's stop perpetuating this nonsense which has been debunked for years now..... there's two stories. others say he was while others say he didn't. i really have to sit down and watch the movie myself to see. but it have been said in the last days he wasn't well and didn't look good. so let me watch the movie whenever that will be.... |
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Post by pg13 on Oct 4, 2021 13:10:54 GMT
Michael Jackson wasn't and didn't look "sick" at any point in TII! Even Murray's lawyers agreed MJ didn't look ill in the footage WE haven't seen. Let's stop perpetuating this nonsense which has been debunked for years now..... there's two stories. others say he was while others say he didn't. i really have to sit down and watch the movie myself to see. but it have been said in the last days he wasn't well and didn't look good. so let me watch the movie whenever that will be.... The evidence came out in Murray's trial and this includes the prosecution's own medical expert witnesses. I've provided all that in another thread too. There's ONE story here. The other one is from fans with no real sense of perspective who ignore all evidence that doesn't fit what they believe. And, no, all opinions are NOT equal. |
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Post by NatureCriminal7896 on Oct 4, 2021 13:14:38 GMT
i'm not sure if your joking. but in my opinion it was wrong what they did. waited after he die? Michael had been though so much and that what they did to him. like honestly? i haven't saw the movie because to me i'm not ready to see Michael sick on stage. i know the movie did good etc but like some fans they can't watch it. maybe one day i will, but like others i don't wanna see Michael sick on stage. but shoutout to anyone who did watch the movie. you are very brave. but yeah it was an money grab and they still making money off of something Michael didn't want to do and pretty much died from. I’m not sure why you think I’m joking, or when this conversation suddenly switched from the topic of the song to the film since we’ve been discussing only the song so far. But if you want to suddenly change to the film itself, personally, I’m fine with the film and I don’t find it hard to watch. I think it did a good job for what was needed at the time. That is: to give the public some resolution about what his final show was going to be like but also to help the organisers recover some money from the project that they had invested millions into but now had to refund all concertgoers (I imagine most concertgoers opted for a refund rather than the ‘collector ticket’ package they offered). But also because it helped support the MJ Estate to pay back the literal hundreds of millions of dollars he left in debt that they now had to deal with. In fact, that was literally the biggest reason Michael was doing the shows in the first place - because of all of his debt he had accumulated. He wasn’t doing it for fun. Again, he is a business and he is there to make money. The idea to release a documentary from footage that was already commissioned by Michael was a pretty straight forward one at the time given all the circumstances. I totally understand why some fans no longer feel comfortable watching the film, knowing how unpleasant it was for Michael behind the scenes. I don’t hold it against them, it’s totally understandable. Personally, I’m not bothered. The film doesn’t focus on that aspect, so it’s not a hard watch and never has been for me. I see the film as a showcase for his genius, and to share his unforeseen final visions with the world that he never got a chance to share. i'm actually talking about both really. but i was actually talking about the song. but yeah that was another thing too. Michael pretty much was gonna do this show for two reasons. one because of course he needed the money and two was because he wanted to see that people still liked him. i actually feel bad for Mike though. yes he need the money but also he wasn't up for it. he wasn't sleeping or eating. he also was 50. he wasn't that old but his body was aging. i will say he was in good shape for his age months before he died. |
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