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Post by Snow White on Oct 22, 2021 23:09:57 GMT
My heart goes out for her loved ones but especially her son who will grow without his mother.
Alec must be shattered to pieces. I wouldn't know how to live with Halyna's death even if it was an accident/negligence if I were in his shoes.
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Post by HIStoric on Oct 24, 2021 0:56:59 GMT
Click through on the tweet to read a long, but incredibly fascinating Twitter thread by a film armourer. He also goes on the lengths of safety he goes to, the different types of guns they will use on a film set, set protocols for safety, how they deal with fight scenes, guns that appear to be pointed at cameras, what have you. I didn't know they went to this much effort on a proper set, but it's insane (and I mean that in a very good way).
He doesn't expand on what might've happened on the set of Rust (because it wasn't his set, nor can he confirm any of the rumours he has heard) but it'll be really interesting to see how everything went down. I was reading just last night that apparently a lot of union crew members walked out in protest over various other issues (before this incident), and that there had also been some gun issues already on that set.
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Post by TonyR on Nov 18, 2021 9:30:46 GMT
Everybody litigation. I would not have the audacity to file a lawsuit unless I was personally injured by something like this. I'd be embarrassed on behalf of the actual victims. Gloria Allred is a leech, a proper old school ambulance chaser of a lawyer. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59328040A lawsuit against Alec Baldwin alleges that a film script did not require him to fire a gun when he fatally shot cinematographer Halyna Hutchins. Script supervisor Mamie Mitchell - who called police after the shooting on the New Mexico film set - filed the suit. Her lawyer accused the actor of "playing Russian roulette" when he fired the gun without checking it. Mr Baldwin and the film's producers, who were also named in the lawsuit, have not yet commented. The Hollywood actor has previously shared comments from a crew member rejecting suggestions that the film set was unsafe. Authorities are still investigating the 21 October shooting that took place on the set of the Western film Rust. No criminal charges have been brought against anyone. Ms Mitchell's lawsuit claims that the script called for three tight camera shots - one of Mr Baldwin's eyes, another of a bloodstain on his shoulder and a third of his torso "as he reached his hand down to the holster and removed the gun". "There was nothing in the script about the gun being discharged by defendant Baldwin or by any other person," it says. EXPLAINER: What are the rules for guns on film sets? In a news conference on Wednesday, her lawyer Gloria Allred described the behaviour of Mr Baldwin and the film's producers as "reckless", as she accused them of failing to follow safety protocols. According to court records, Mr Baldwin was handed the weapon by the film's assistant director who did not know it contained live ammunition and indicated it was unloaded by shouting "cold gun". Ms Allred said Mr Baldwin "chose to play Russian roulette when he fired a gun without checking it and without having the armourer do so in his presence". She added that a range of safety failures meant that it was "a case where injury or death was much more than just a possibility — it was a likely result". Ms Mitchell was standing less than 4ft (1.2m) away from Mr Baldwin when the weapon was discharged, according to the lawsuit. "I relive the shooting and the sound of the explosion from the gun over and over again," she told reporters. Her lawsuit is claiming assault, intentional infliction of emotional distress, and deliberate infliction of harm, and is requesting unspecified damages. It is the second to be filed over the incident, after the set's head electrician began legal action earlier this month. The film's armourer, who was responsible for the guns and ammunition on set, has said she does not know how a live round came to be in the weapon.
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Post by respect77 on Nov 18, 2021 17:23:07 GMT
Gloria Allred, the mother of all ambulance chasing lawyers is involved, of course.
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Post by TonyR on Nov 18, 2021 18:52:34 GMT
Gloria Allred, the mother of all ambulance chasing lawyers is involved, of course. Yeah, that's exactly what I called her above!
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Post by MattyJam on Nov 22, 2021 13:40:14 GMT
Got my FB account restricted for 3 days due to "hate speech" for my reply to this post:
My reply:
"Hang him."
Obviously they had a sense of humour bypass.
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Post by MattyJam on Dec 2, 2021 7:02:50 GMT
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Post by TonyR on Dec 2, 2021 10:48:04 GMT
Yeah I just read that. Surely he won't have just made that up?! I was thinking it's gone total Agatha Christie and someone else purposely shot her at the same time so it looked like it was the fake gun. But I guess they've already confirmed which gun it was?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2021 7:49:57 GMT
Can only imagine what his head is like at the minute to be fair. It's possible the gun malfunctioned yeah, especially if it was poorly designed or manufactured. It's also very possible he believes he didn't pull the trigger. It's times like this that family should protect him from exposing himself in the media and to let all investigations carry.
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Post by TonyR on Dec 3, 2021 12:54:19 GMT
Can only imagine what his head is like at the minute to be fair. It's possible the gun malfunctioned yeah, especially if it was poorly designed or manufactured. It's also very possible he believes he didn't pull the trigger. It's times like this that family should protect him from exposing himself in the media and to let all investigations carry. Yeah I would have thought the police would have told him not to speak to the media. Surely anything he says now could be used in any sort of criminal or civil case.
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Post by elusivemoonwalker on Dec 3, 2021 14:10:27 GMT
And now the armourer (sp?) Is claiming someone messed with the gun on purpose. Seriously all these people trying to cover their arse. Its embarrassing. Makes you wonder if its baldwin putting it out there as charges are coming?
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Post by MattyJam on Dec 4, 2021 7:22:06 GMT
And now the armourer (sp?) Is claiming someone messed with the gun on purpose. Seriously all these people trying to cover their arse. Its embarrassing. Makes you wonder if its baldwin putting it out there as charges are coming? Yeah, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Baldwin faces charges for this. And rightly so imo. If the local amateur dramatics actor pointed a loaded gun at someone and shot them dead but denied pulling the trigger, claiming it just went off by itself, do you think anyone would buy it? It shouldn't be a different rule for A listers. This seems like manslaughter, cut and dry, as far as I can tell. Obviously we don't have all the facts yet, but it very much looks as if Baldwin is trying to sherk his responsibility in this.
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Post by elusivemoonwalker on Dec 4, 2021 7:58:33 GMT
Its probably abit more complicated interms of others being complicit in it aswell. Hence them all making up excuses. Supposedly the one who gave baldwin the gun shouted it was empty and safe. Then you have gutierrez saying it was tampered with.someone had it before Baldwin. Its just pathetic that instead of someone holding up their hands and admitting they fecked up they are all desperately trying to cover their own assess by coming out with ridiculous excuses. All while a women is dead and a young family have lost their wife and mother
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Post by MattyJam on Dec 4, 2021 8:04:07 GMT
Its probably abit more complicated interms of others being complicit in it aswell. Hence them all making up excuses. Supposedly the one who gave baldwin the gun shouted it was empty and safe. Then you have gutierrez saying it was tampered with.someone had it before Baldwin. Its just pathetic that instead of someone holding up their hands and admitting they fecked up they are all desperately trying to cover their own assess by coming out with ridiculous excuses. All while a women is dead and a young family have lost their wife and mother I guess no-one wants to risk prison time. But it's very sad that nobody is decent enough to take accountability.
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Dec 6, 2021 13:03:01 GMT
Definitely the fault of the person who was supposed to check the gun was safe to use before being handed over. Don't see how it can be spun any other way really. If the gun had been checked properly this would never have happened.
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