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Post by Russg on Feb 13, 2022 11:16:25 GMT
Over the last few years VINYL has been selling and increasing helped by things like Record Store day, and this year Apil 2022 with Taylor Swift at the helm of Record Store day, it might be the most lucrative yet. But last year CD sales rose and many attached this reason to Taylor and Adele and also BTS having records, though I think it is more than just that. Its the emerging YouTube channels that are talking up classic stuff to a new audience, older music is also outselling NEW by alot. YouTube channels such as Professor Of Rock has really impacted older artists but also bringing attention to older artists new releases. Other channels that do similar things many of them focusing on Rock and Metal and progressive rock have brought some sales to that physical product. Though streaming is still the main thing consumers are getting, one opinion has been that people are getting HIP that streaming is really hurting the artists (took them long enough to catch on) it does seem that the tide is getting a little rough for streaming, and maybe leading to rethink payouts which we all know is going to be passed on to the consumer and higher subscription fees. pitchfork.com/news/cd-sales-have-increased-for-the-first-time-in-17-years/
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Post by MattyJam on Feb 13, 2022 18:31:26 GMT
Sold em all and ain't looked back.
Just brought my first two vinyls. It wasn't the plan when I sold my CDs and embraced streaming, but it just didn't feel right not owning a physical copy of my favourite albums.
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Post by aazzaabb on Feb 23, 2022 15:09:04 GMT
I’ve come to the conclusion that the CD is my favourite physical format. Good quality CD’s sound great in my opinion. Their far more economical than vinyl. I love vinyl but I’m never going to pay £300 for a vinyl box set that weighs a ton and takes up entire walls when I can get the CD boxset for £80 and easily store it anywhere.
I also actually prefer the size of the CD way more. The booklets are great and their just far more accessible, affordable and usually you get everything in the CD boxset plus more as apposed to the vinyl box sets. In most cases.
You can buy a decent Sony/Panasonic/LG CD player and speakers for around £120 quid and honestly the sound is fantastic. You can then pick up some great sounding CD’s for £1 or £2 second hand, refurbished or about £5 brand new.
With records a decent set up is gonna set you back £300, £400, £500….to begin with. Alternatively a Crosley record player costs between £80 and £90 and you’re going to have to pay £20, £30 and upwards just for the basic albums with no extras. Don’t get me wrong, I love records but I just don’t feel I’m getting bang for my buck. So one vinyl versus x amount of CD’s? I know which option I’ll be taking thank you very much.
I also have 3 Amazon Alexa Dots that we sprung for on sale during Amazon Day for £25 each and are in various rooms, and an Alexa Hub which we paid £60 for again on Amazon Day sales which is in our living room and honestly? I absolutely love them! The Hub especially; the sound is absolutely fantastic. Their hooked up to our Spotify and it’s just heaven to pull random songs out of thin air and command “Alexa play Prince 1999!” Or “Alexa play Michael Jackson Dangerous” and have the first song that pops into your head playing instantly while you’re getting dressed or making a coffee. What more does one actually need in this day and age.
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Post by TonyR on Feb 23, 2022 16:58:08 GMT
I’ve come to the conclusion that the CD is my favourite physical format. Good quality CD’s sound great in my opinion. Their far more economical than vinyl. I love vinyl but I’m never going to pay £300 for a vinyl box set that weighs a ton and takes up entire walls when I can get the CD boxset for £80 and easily store it anywhere. I also actually prefer the size of the CD way more. The booklets are great and their just far more accessible, affordable and usually you get everything in the CD boxset plus more as apposed to the vinyl box sets. In most cases. You can buy a decent Sony/Panasonic/LG CD player and speakers for around £120 quid and honestly the sound is fantastic. You can then pick up some great sounding CD’s for £1 or £2 second hand, refurbished or about £5 brand new. With records a decent set up is gonna set you back £300, £400, £500….to begin with. Alternatively a Crosley record player costs between £80 and £90 and you’re going to have to pay £20, £30 and upwards just for the basic albums with no extras. Don’t get me wrong, I love records but I just don’t feel I’m getting bang for my buck. So one vinyl versus x amount of CD’s? I know which option I’ll be taking thank you very much. I also have 3 Amazon Alexa Dots that we sprung for on sale during Amazon Day for £25 each and are in various rooms, and an Alexa Hub which we paid £60 for again on Amazon Day sales which is in our living room and honestly? I absolutely love them! The Hub especially; the sound is absolutely fantastic. Their hooked up to our Spotify and it’s just heaven to pull random songs out of thin air and command “Alexa play Prince 1999!” Or “Alexa play Michael Jackson Dangerous” and have the first song that pops into your head playing instantly while you’re getting dressed or making a coffee. What more does one actually need in this day and age. The man talks sense.
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Post by MattyJam on Feb 23, 2022 17:14:09 GMT
I’ve come to the conclusion that the CD is my favourite physical format. Good quality CD’s sound great in my opinion. Their far more economical than vinyl. I love vinyl but I’m never going to pay £300 for a vinyl box set that weighs a ton and takes up entire walls when I can get the CD boxset for £80 and easily store it anywhere. I also actually prefer the size of the CD way more. The booklets are great and their just far more accessible, affordable and usually you get everything in the CD boxset plus more as apposed to the vinyl box sets. In most cases. You can buy a decent Sony/Panasonic/LG CD player and speakers for around £120 quid and honestly the sound is fantastic. You can then pick up some great sounding CD’s for £1 or £2 second hand, refurbished or about £5 brand new. With records a decent set up is gonna set you back £300, £400, £500….to begin with. Alternatively a Crosley record player costs between £80 and £90 and you’re going to have to pay £20, £30 and upwards just for the basic albums with no extras. Don’t get me wrong, I love records but I just don’t feel I’m getting bang for my buck. So one vinyl versus x amount of CD’s? I know which option I’ll be taking thank you very much. I also have 3 Amazon Alexa Dots that we sprung for on sale during Amazon Day for £25 each and are in various rooms, and an Alexa Hub which we paid £60 for again on Amazon Day sales which is in our living room and honestly? I absolutely love them! The Hub especially; the sound is absolutely fantastic. Their hooked up to our Spotify and it’s just heaven to pull random songs out of thin air and command “Alexa play Prince 1999!” Or “Alexa play Michael Jackson Dangerous” and have the first song that pops into your head playing instantly while you’re getting dressed or making a coffee. What more does one actually need in this day and age. Now you tell me! And after I've sold all my CDs as well... Tbh, whilst CDs were my preferred format, streaming has just rendered them pointless. I'm only buying vinyls now because it doesn't sit right with the rabid fanboy in me to not own any physical MJ or Prince music. All I kept was The Ultimate Collection and thats because it's not on streaming platforms and not available on vinyl. I'm getting Invincible and Thriller vinyls for my birthday next month along with my first ever turntable. I'm finally gonna be a hipster. Do I get to wear my scarf all year round now?
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Post by aazzaabb on Feb 23, 2022 17:59:09 GMT
I’ve come to the conclusion that the CD is my favourite physical format. Good quality CD’s sound great in my opinion. Their far more economical than vinyl. I love vinyl but I’m never going to pay £300 for a vinyl box set that weighs a ton and takes up entire walls when I can get the CD boxset for £80 and easily store it anywhere. I also actually prefer the size of the CD way more. The booklets are great and their just far more accessible, affordable and usually you get everything in the CD boxset plus more as apposed to the vinyl box sets. In most cases. You can buy a decent Sony/Panasonic/LG CD player and speakers for around £120 quid and honestly the sound is fantastic. You can then pick up some great sounding CD’s for £1 or £2 second hand, refurbished or about £5 brand new. With records a decent set up is gonna set you back £300, £400, £500….to begin with. Alternatively a Crosley record player costs between £80 and £90 and you’re going to have to pay £20, £30 and upwards just for the basic albums with no extras. Don’t get me wrong, I love records but I just don’t feel I’m getting bang for my buck. So one vinyl versus x amount of CD’s? I know which option I’ll be taking thank you very much. I also have 3 Amazon Alexa Dots that we sprung for on sale during Amazon Day for £25 each and are in various rooms, and an Alexa Hub which we paid £60 for again on Amazon Day sales which is in our living room and honestly? I absolutely love them! The Hub especially; the sound is absolutely fantastic. Their hooked up to our Spotify and it’s just heaven to pull random songs out of thin air and command “Alexa play Prince 1999!” Or “Alexa play Michael Jackson Dangerous” and have the first song that pops into your head playing instantly while you’re getting dressed or making a coffee. What more does one actually need in this day and age. Now you tell me! And after I've sold all my CDs as well... Tbh, whilst CDs were my preferred format, streaming has just rendered them pointless. I'm only buying vinyls now because it doesn't sit right with the rabid fanboy in me to not own any physical MJ or Prince music. All I kept was The Ultimate Collection and thats because it's not on streaming platforms and not available on vinyl. I'm getting Invincible and Thriller vinyls for my birthday next month along with my first ever turntable. I'm finally gonna be a hipster. Do I get to wear my scarf all year round now? Don’t get me wrong, it’s not like I spend my days and nights listening to CD’s, but there’s still a certain amount of likeablity to be had. A certain amount of fun, joy, je ne sais quoi! For instance, the originally issued mix of the Bad album on CD can be found secondhand for £1 and there’s a significant enough difference between the 87 and 2001 mixes to class it as a must-have. And apart from the different mix, the CD itself sounds wonderful. The Deluxe CD version of Thriller 25 doesn’t need to be played to be enjoyed. As a piece of memorabilia it’s just very nice to look at and hold. Same goes for the 2001 Special Editions. Their just nice pieces of physical ephemera. And the currency in which CD’s change hands for makes them a win win. You can buy the CD and afford not to play it. Obviously I do like vinyls as well; I have quite a few. But if say, one has OCD and enjoys the feeling of being a completist, then one has to remortgage the house to do so in terms of vinyl. The CD has allowed me to be a part of the physical celebrations of Prince’s 1999, Sign “O” The Times, SGT Pepper, White Album etc. Vinyl didn’t afford me that opportunity. I was priced out of the market, especially with the Sign “O” box. You can’t own the original versions of the Xscape tracks on vinyl, only on CD. There’s a ton of MJ tracks actually that are only available on CD. His Spotify is very poor. Things like Michael’s Bad25 Deluxe Edition is beautiful to have on CD box set. Again, one doesn’t need to necessarily play it. It’s got two lovely little books and a foldout poster. And it has the Wembley CD! Only place that has it! A job lot of MJ albums can be had for about £15 on eBay.
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Post by aazzaabb on Feb 23, 2022 18:12:41 GMT
I’ve come to the conclusion that the CD is my favourite physical format. Good quality CD’s sound great in my opinion. Their far more economical than vinyl. I love vinyl but I’m never going to pay £300 for a vinyl box set that weighs a ton and takes up entire walls when I can get the CD boxset for £80 and easily store it anywhere. I also actually prefer the size of the CD way more. The booklets are great and their just far more accessible, affordable and usually you get everything in the CD boxset plus more as apposed to the vinyl box sets. In most cases. You can buy a decent Sony/Panasonic/LG CD player and speakers for around £120 quid and honestly the sound is fantastic. You can then pick up some great sounding CD’s for £1 or £2 second hand, refurbished or about £5 brand new. With records a decent set up is gonna set you back £300, £400, £500….to begin with. Alternatively a Crosley record player costs between £80 and £90 and you’re going to have to pay £20, £30 and upwards just for the basic albums with no extras. Don’t get me wrong, I love records but I just don’t feel I’m getting bang for my buck. So one vinyl versus x amount of CD’s? I know which option I’ll be taking thank you very much. I also have 3 Amazon Alexa Dots that we sprung for on sale during Amazon Day for £25 each and are in various rooms, and an Alexa Hub which we paid £60 for again on Amazon Day sales which is in our living room and honestly? I absolutely love them! The Hub especially; the sound is absolutely fantastic. Their hooked up to our Spotify and it’s just heaven to pull random songs out of thin air and command “Alexa play Prince 1999!” Or “Alexa play Michael Jackson Dangerous” and have the first song that pops into your head playing instantly while you’re getting dressed or making a coffee. What more does one actually need in this day and age. The man talks sense. And just remember, with aazzaabb, a bit more sense, means saving A LOT MORE PENCE!!
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Post by MattyJam on Feb 23, 2022 18:33:39 GMT
Now you tell me! And after I've sold all my CDs as well... Tbh, whilst CDs were my preferred format, streaming has just rendered them pointless. I'm only buying vinyls now because it doesn't sit right with the rabid fanboy in me to not own any physical MJ or Prince music. All I kept was The Ultimate Collection and thats because it's not on streaming platforms and not available on vinyl. I'm getting Invincible and Thriller vinyls for my birthday next month along with my first ever turntable. I'm finally gonna be a hipster. Do I get to wear my scarf all year round now? Don’t get me wrong, it’s not like I spend my days and nights listening to CD’s, but there’s still a certain amount of likeablity to be had. A certain amount of fun, joy, je ne sais quoi! For instance, the originally issued mix of the Bad album on CD can be found secondhand for £1 and there’s a significant enough difference between the 87 and 2001 mixes to class it as a must-have. And apart from the different mix, the CD itself sounds wonderful. The Deluxe CD version of Thriller 25 doesn’t need to be played to be enjoyed. As a piece of memorabilia it’s just very nice to look at and hold. Same goes for the 2001 Special Editions. Their just nice pieces of physical ephemera. And the currency in which CD’s change hands for makes them a win win. You can buy the CD and afford not to play it. Obviously I do like vinyls as well; I have quite a few. But if say, one has OCD and enjoys the feeling of being a completist, then one has to remortgage the house to do so in terms of vinyl. The CD has allowed me to be a part of the physical celebrations of Prince’s 1999, Sign “O” The Times, SGT Pepper, White Album etc. Vinyl didn’t afford me that opportunity. I was priced out of the market, especially with the Sign “O” box. You can’t own the original versions of the Xscape tracks on vinyl, only on CD. There’s a ton of MJ tracks actually that are only available on CD. His Spotify is very poor. Things like Michael’s Bad25 Deluxe Edition is beautiful to have on CD box set. Again, one doesn’t need to necessarily play it. It’s got two lovely little books and a foldout poster. And it has the Wembley CD! Only place that has it! A job lot of MJ albums can be had for about £15 on eBay. Oh yeah, I kept my Bad 25 set too, for obvious reasons. I gotta admit, even though they were just sitting in a box gathering dust, it did sting a little getting rid of my original HIStory CD that I purchased when I was 10 and was the first CD I ever owned. But I was determined to make a clean break. If I had my way, I'd go back in time and make it so that streaming was never invented. Go back to the 90s/early 00s when CD was king. But it is what it is and I see streaming like house insurance; it just makes good sense and is a necessary evil.
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Post by aazzaabb on Feb 23, 2022 23:48:04 GMT
Don’t get me wrong, it’s not like I spend my days and nights listening to CD’s, but there’s still a certain amount of likeablity to be had. A certain amount of fun, joy, je ne sais quoi! For instance, the originally issued mix of the Bad album on CD can be found secondhand for £1 and there’s a significant enough difference between the 87 and 2001 mixes to class it as a must-have. And apart from the different mix, the CD itself sounds wonderful. The Deluxe CD version of Thriller 25 doesn’t need to be played to be enjoyed. As a piece of memorabilia it’s just very nice to look at and hold. Same goes for the 2001 Special Editions. Their just nice pieces of physical ephemera. And the currency in which CD’s change hands for makes them a win win. You can buy the CD and afford not to play it. Obviously I do like vinyls as well; I have quite a few. But if say, one has OCD and enjoys the feeling of being a completist, then one has to remortgage the house to do so in terms of vinyl. The CD has allowed me to be a part of the physical celebrations of Prince’s 1999, Sign “O” The Times, SGT Pepper, White Album etc. Vinyl didn’t afford me that opportunity. I was priced out of the market, especially with the Sign “O” box. You can’t own the original versions of the Xscape tracks on vinyl, only on CD. There’s a ton of MJ tracks actually that are only available on CD. His Spotify is very poor. Things like Michael’s Bad25 Deluxe Edition is beautiful to have on CD box set. Again, one doesn’t need to necessarily play it. It’s got two lovely little books and a foldout poster. And it has the Wembley CD! Only place that has it! A job lot of MJ albums can be had for about £15 on eBay. Oh yeah, I kept my Bad 25 set too, for obvious reasons. I gotta admit, even though they were just sitting in a box gathering dust, it did sting a little getting rid of my original HIStory CD that I purchased when I was 10 and was the first CD I ever owned. But I was determined to make a clean break. If I had my way, I'd go back in time and make it so that streaming was never invented. Go back to the 90s/early 00s when CD was king. But it is what it is and I see streaming like house insurance; it just makes good sense and is a necessary evil. Ah man! Could you not have kept it for your son? Perhaps I’m being a little too sentimental but I couldn’t part with my MJ CD’s. Perhaps one day I will or I’ll have to for one reason or another but again, the HIStory album on CD has that book. And the MJ statue is etched on the discs. I’ve always thought MJ albums sounded magnificent on CD. I agree with you about the streaming thing also. When I said a few years ago that “the album isn’t what it used to be” this is sort of what I was getting at. Great albums are still made -somewhere in universe- but we don’t live and breath them as much or in the same way anymore. Maybe I’m wrong? They just don’t seem to be event's like they used to be. Although to be fair I’ve experienced a few in recent times that have been event’s I guess. We live in an age where convenience is king I guess. I’d love to be able to dedicate entire evenings and nights sitting in a nice room listening to vinyl records but at the moment it’s not possible. Ideally in russtcb’s basement.
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Post by HIStoric on Feb 24, 2022 1:34:50 GMT
Even though I've been fully streaming for a good 5-6 years now, I still keep a very small core catalogue of CDs. The majority of this is compromised of my MJ/Beatles albums, along with a few other albums that I love. I've siphoned down my CD collection a lot over the last few years because I haven't touched them in years and they just take up space I could use for something else, so I felt keeping a small core collection of the stuff I really like is a good midway point. They're at the point now where they don't take up too much space, so I'm happy. I do likewise with vinyl and I have two albums I love displayed on my shelf. Got me MJ's Bad and Mac Miller's Circles sitting next to each other, both covers are very minimal and white so they go nicely. In the middle on the shelf above is my huge bookset of Paul McCartney's The Lyrics. Being black and white, it goes nicely I reckon.
I think the appeal I would get from physical releases now-a-days is how they would look on my shelf as a visual display piece. Not in terms of 'heres a whole vinyl collection', but more 'here's one or two albums that are not just important to me, but also have a beautiful cover.' At the same time, I get pragmatic in a financial sense and go "well the part of these collections I will use the most is the music itself, and I already have that on Spotify" so I can't justify spending a good hundie or two on something that'll just sit there. At $240NZD ($160USD), I haven't bought any of those lovely remixed Beatles boxsets for example.
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Feb 24, 2022 22:27:06 GMT
I only really buy physical of stuff I really care about now. Everything else is fine on Spotify. That's not to say I don't have a lot of physical stuff but most stuff I'd say I'm fine using Spotify to access it now.
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Post by Russg on Feb 25, 2022 18:53:07 GMT
I only really buy physical of stuff I really care about now. Everything else is fine on Spotify. That's not to say I don't have a lot of physical stuff but most stuff I'd say I'm fine using Spotify to access it now. What would you do if you were a casual Neil Young fan? Some artists you want to listen to but are not particularly invested enough to drop a small fortune on to buy their entire back catalogue. Thankfully for me, I'd rather hack my ears off than listen to Neil Young's dire threat to the peacefulness of any given elevator ride, but still... if I were a casual fan, I'd just find myself not listening to that artists music, as I don't own a CD player, nor do I download anymore since streaming.
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Post by HIStoric on Feb 25, 2022 22:54:48 GMT
I only really buy physical of stuff I really care about now. Everything else is fine on Spotify. That's not to say I don't have a lot of physical stuff but most stuff I'd say I'm fine using Spotify to access it now. What would you do if you were a casual Neil Young fan? Some artists you want to listen to but are not particularly invested enough to drop a small fortune on to buy their entire back catalogue. Thankfully for me, I'd rather hack my ears off than listen to Neil Young's dire threat to the peacefulness of any given elevator ride, but still... if I were a casual fan, I'd just find myself not listening to that artists music, as I don't own a CD player, nor do I download anymore since streaming. For me anyway, I only like/know a few of his songs so his removal hasn't really impacted me much, aside from his disappearance off one or two of my playlists. Right now if I ever want to listen to those songs, I'll use Apple Music (I got a free trial with some AirPods I got a while back so why not).
But otherwise I'd just get his music in MP3 format one way or another then add it manually to my Spotify.
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Post by nesboy43 on Feb 25, 2022 23:01:06 GMT
I ripped all my CDs a few years back in lossless and am selling most of mine currently (keeping all MJ and beatles as well as a few other important ones to me).
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