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Post by pg13 on Oct 6, 2022 7:33:55 GMT
Also, what is the purpose in relation to Nelson George?
Remember, Nottage and Wheeldon were kept on the MJ Musical, so I'd say it's really unlikely George would be booted.
If its to complain for x time online....carry on!
Be more productive to demand MOT be released.....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2022 7:42:31 GMT
Was last week's reveal on Thursday or Friday?
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Post by respect77 on Oct 6, 2022 8:25:35 GMT
Also, what is the purpose in relation to Nelson George? Remember, Nottage and Wheeldon were kept on the MJ Musical, so I'd say it's really unlikely George would be booted. If its to complain for x time online....carry on! Be more productive to demand MOT be released..... I don't find it likely that he'll get the boot as this is probably already well into production. Still I don't think we shouldn't express our disappointment in such things. IMO the purpose of expressing our disappointment in the choice would be that the Estate would pay attention to such things in the future. Although they never do and they are generally pretty condescendingly arrogant towards fans, so maybe that's a futile hope.
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Post by respect77 on Oct 6, 2022 8:41:02 GMT
Personally, I don't agree with blacklisting people in various roles, but there are plenty in the fan community who do. So would you be okay with the Estate hiring, say, Victor Gutierrez or Diane Dimond to direct an official, Estate endorsed MJ documentary?
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Post by pg13 on Oct 6, 2022 9:35:49 GMT
Personally, I don't agree with blacklisting people in various roles, but there are plenty in the fan community who do. So would you be okay with the Estate hiring, say, Victor Gutierrez or Diane Dimond to direct an official, Estate endorsed MJ documentary? So you do like presenting hypothetical?! ๐คทโโ๏ธ And I have my limits. Your scenario is highly unlikely. I was thinking of those fan lists over the years of people we should apparently hate.
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Post by pg13 on Oct 6, 2022 9:38:10 GMT
Also, what is the purpose in relation to Nelson George? Remember, Nottage and Wheeldon were kept on the MJ Musical, so I'd say it's really unlikely George would be booted. If its to complain for x time online....carry on! Be more productive to demand MOT be released..... I don't find it likely that he'll get the boot as this is probably already well into production. Still I don't think we shouldn't express our disappointment in such things. IMO the purpose of expressing our disappointment in the choice would be that the Estate would pay attention to such things in the future. Although they never do and they are generally pretty condescendingly arrogant towards fans, so maybe that's a futile hope. Unlikely the Estate and Sony are reading this small forum. But as I suspected.....bang the keyboards away! It'll not change a thing now or in future. More productive to demand the release of MOT! More interesting too.
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Post by respect77 on Oct 6, 2022 9:48:47 GMT
So would you be okay with the Estate hiring, say, Victor Gutierrez or Diane Dimond to direct an official, Estate endorsed MJ documentary? So you do like presenting hypothetical?! ๐คทโโ๏ธ And I have my limits. Your scenario is highly unlikely. I was thinking of those fan lists over the years of people we should apparently hate. I'm glad you clarified you have your limits too because that's the point I wanted to make. It's actually very rare that someone is totally against blacklisting people. It's not "anything goes" for most of us. The difference between individuals is usually only where that limit is. So for some of us it is that if a journalist wrote several articles over the years and decades where he said disparaging things about MJ, including that he was an abuser, maybe that person shouldn't be the director of an Estate endorsed documentary about MJ's crown jewel album. Maybe there would be people more deserving of this project. I don't think this is an invalid point of view.
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Post by pg13 on Oct 6, 2022 9:55:34 GMT
So you do like presenting hypothetical?! ๐คทโโ๏ธ And I have my limits. Your scenario is highly unlikely. I was thinking of those fan lists over the years of people we should apparently hate. I'm glad you clarified you have your limits too because that's the point I wanted to make. It's actually very rare that someone is totally against blacklisting people. It's not "anything goes" for most of us. The difference between individuals is usually only where that limit is. So for some of us it is that if a journalist wrote several articles over the years and decades where he said disparaging things about MJ, including that he was an abuser, maybe that person shouldn't be the director of an Estate endorsed documentary about MJ's crown jewel album. Maybe there would be people more deserving of this project. I don't think this is an invalid point of view. Sure, sure. I think it's rather more likely the Estate and Sony didn't know about these views by NG. After all, the views of Nottage and Wheeldon weren't known until after LN when they were already hired. What's clear to me from the released Estate and Sony statements is this documentary is intended to highlight, help and sustain Michael's legacy. Rather than denigrate Michael's involvement or anything like that. So, I hope it turns out well and becomes a success. Ironically, it'll make NG views age even worse and help towards consigning it to history.
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Post by HIStoric on Oct 6, 2022 11:09:09 GMT
Weโre roughly a month and a half to the release of this finally. Hopefully the Estate announces some extra goodies that should come along with this campaign (HD video re-uploads anyone??)
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Post by pg13 on Oct 6, 2022 11:16:16 GMT
Weโre roughly a month and a half to the release of this finally. Hopefully the Estate announces some extra goodies that should come along with this campaign (HD video re-uploads anyone??) Think bigger than that.....we need MOT and we need it NOW! It hasn't had a new general release for almost 40 years now.
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Post by HIStoric on Oct 6, 2022 11:17:58 GMT
Weโre roughly a month and a half to the release of this finally. Hopefully the Estate announces some extra goodies that should come along with this campaign (HD video re-uploads anyone??) Think bigger than that.....we need MOT and we need it NOW! It hasn't had a new general release for almost 40 years now. Oh yes! The Making Of definitely needs a new transfer/restoration too.
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Post by pg13 on Oct 6, 2022 11:22:20 GMT
Think bigger than that.....we need MOT and we need it NOW! It hasn't had a new general release for almost 40 years now. Oh yes! The Making Of definitely needs a new transfer/restoration too. I genuinely don't give a monkeys about anything to do with Thriller 40 except for THIS!
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Post by respect77 on Oct 6, 2022 16:13:00 GMT
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Oct 6, 2022 16:15:55 GMT
Very cool that they are including a totally unheard track. Looking forward to hearing it.
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Post by mjkingofpopforever on Oct 6, 2022 16:25:56 GMT
wow fantastic now all wishes regarding the bonus CD from the estate have been fulfilled a brand new song even for hardcore fans i am happy and looking forward to this bonus CD great ๐
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