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Post by amaya on Sept 9, 2022 4:03:58 GMT
Being American I never got into the Royal Family, but it's still sad to hear. She lived a hell of a life. RIP to her and condolences to the family and the people of the UK.
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Post by pg13 on Sept 9, 2022 6:00:02 GMT
I dont think that makes you a tosser, but then I'm not exactly sure what a "tosser" is. Is that Brit slang? It's sad when anyone dies, but she was 96 and lived a life of luxury. It's not exactly a tragedy like Diana, who, to be perfectly honest, was much more likeable than the Queen. The Queen is living proof that if you just stick around long enough, people will love you. She never actually came across as a particularly warm or caring person and by all accounts, routinely and willingly neglected her own children for the Crown. People talk about the sacrifices she made as if it's to be commended, but is putting your children second to your job really all that admirable? The British royals seem like one of the most over-indulged, dysfunctional families in the world. I really don't get you Brits and your adoration of this crap. It's pretty easy to call people who don't agree with your idolisation of a Monarch a tosser. It's pretty common and also happened when Phillip died. If you're not crying over it or saying they were a great person, wishing them massive respects and RIP then you should just shut up I guess. No, if you're being an arse about it that's when you'll either be told or expected to be quiet. No-one actually expects every single person to grieve or anything, but a bit of respect wouldn't go amiss. You could at least wait until after the State Funeral. If an arch Nationalist like Nicola Sturgeon can be respectful at thus time , then there's no reason why anyone else can't. A chip owner in Muir Of Ord, Scottish Highlands was an absolute disgrace last night. Her shop was forced to close by the police after a crowd of angry locals gathered. Some eggs were thrown. www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/highlands-islands/4771786/muir-of-ord-chip-shop-queen-death/You should be able to read that free at least once. There's some twitter videos in there.
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Post by TonyR on Sept 9, 2022 6:23:21 GMT
I dont think that makes you a tosser, but then I'm not exactly sure what a "tosser" is. Is that Brit slang? It's sad when anyone dies, but she was 96 and lived a life of luxury. It's not exactly a tragedy like Diana, who, to be perfectly honest, was much more likeable than the Queen. The Queen is living proof that if you just stick around long enough, people will love you. She never actually came across as a particularly warm or caring person and by all accounts, routinely and willingly neglected her own children for the Crown. People talk about the sacrifices she made as if it's to be commended, but is putting your children second to your job really all that admirable? The British royals seem like one of the most over-indulged, dysfunctional families in the world. I really don't get you Brits and your adoration of this crap. It's pretty easy to call people who don't agree with your idolisation of a Monarch a tosser. It's pretty common and also happened when Phillip died. If you're not crying over it or saying they were a great person, wishing them massive respects and RIP then you should just shut up I guess. If you actually read my post, which may be too much to ask, I said 'if you're celebrating this, then you're a tosser'. Not if you're indifferent or a republican etc... I was referring to those people who think a mother and grandmother's death is a good thing.
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Post by pg13 on Sept 9, 2022 7:41:00 GMT
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Sept 9, 2022 10:12:00 GMT
It's pretty easy to call people who don't agree with your idolisation of a Monarch a tosser. It's pretty common and also happened when Phillip died. If you're not crying over it or saying they were a great person, wishing them massive respects and RIP then you should just shut up I guess. No, if you're being an arse about it that's when you'll either be told or expected to be quiet. No-one actually expects every single person to grieve or anything, but a bit of respect wouldn't go amiss. You could at least wait until after the State Funeral. If an arch Nationalist like Nicola Sturgeon can be respectful at thus time , then there's no reason why anyone else can't. A chip owner in Muir Of Ord, Scottish Highlands was an absolute disgrace last night. Her shop was forced to close by the police after a crowd of angry locals gathered. Some eggs were thrown. www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/highlands-islands/4771786/muir-of-ord-chip-shop-queen-death/You should be able to read that free at least once. There's some twitter videos in there. Nah I do think it's quite important that the bad things she did and contributed to are pointed out and made well known amongst all the underserved adoration and praise, I wouldn't consider that celebrating her death at all.
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Sept 9, 2022 10:13:42 GMT
It's pretty easy to call people who don't agree with your idolisation of a Monarch a tosser. It's pretty common and also happened when Phillip died. If you're not crying over it or saying they were a great person, wishing them massive respects and RIP then you should just shut up I guess. If you actually read my post, which may be too much to ask, I said 'if you're celebrating this, then you're a tosser'. Not if you're indifferent or a republican etc... I was referring to those people who think a mother and grandmother's death is a good thing. I read your post thanks. If you don't understand why certain groups of people would be happy about this then I think you probably don't know enough about what she's done, contributed to or her family history. It's quite rich to tell those groups of people how they are supposed to feel in all honesty.
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Post by DirtyD on Sept 9, 2022 10:27:39 GMT
No, if you're being an arse about it that's when you'll either be told or expected to be quiet. No-one actually expects every single person to grieve or anything, but a bit of respect wouldn't go amiss. You could at least wait until after the State Funeral. If an arch Nationalist like Nicola Sturgeon can be respectful at thus time , then there's no reason why anyone else can't. A chip owner in Muir Of Ord, Scottish Highlands was an absolute disgrace last night. Her shop was forced to close by the police after a crowd of angry locals gathered. Some eggs were thrown. www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/highlands-islands/4771786/muir-of-ord-chip-shop-queen-death/You should be able to read that free at least once. There's some twitter videos in there. Nah I do think it's quite important that the bad things she did and contributed to are pointed out and made well known amongst all the underserved adoration and praise, I wouldn't consider that celebrating her death at all. I wouldn’t go as far as calling all the adoration she’s getting “undeserved” as she clearly means a lot to a lot of people, despite what she may or may have not done.
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Post by pg13 on Sept 9, 2022 10:32:31 GMT
No, if you're being an arse about it that's when you'll either be told or expected to be quiet. No-one actually expects every single person to grieve or anything, but a bit of respect wouldn't go amiss. You could at least wait until after the State Funeral. If an arch Nationalist like Nicola Sturgeon can be respectful at thus time , then there's no reason why anyone else can't. A chip owner in Muir Of Ord, Scottish Highlands was an absolute disgrace last night. Her shop was forced to close by the police after a crowd of angry locals gathered. Some eggs were thrown. www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/highlands-islands/4771786/muir-of-ord-chip-shop-queen-death/You should be able to read that free at least once. There's some twitter videos in there. Nah I do think it's quite important that the bad things she did and contributed to are pointed out and made well known amongst all the underserved adoration and praise, I wouldn't consider that celebrating her death at all. On the contrary, the chip shop owner near me DID literally celebrate the Queen's death yesterday evening. The locals were so furious the peelers had to be called out to force her to close it. It's looking like she'll be out of business soon. What bad things are you talking about? Even the Separatist Nationalist First Minister Of Scotland can respectfully mark the passing of the Queen. People like me had to sit through an eulogising of a Provisional Sinn Féin and Provisional IRA mass murderer. An individual from the same organisation that murdered her relative, Lord Mountbatten off the coast of the Republic of Ireland. So, you could easily have chosen to ignore it since you said "I'm not bothered". 🙄 You could learn a thing or two.
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Sept 9, 2022 10:39:32 GMT
Nah I do think it's quite important that the bad things she did and contributed to are pointed out and made well known amongst all the underserved adoration and praise, I wouldn't consider that celebrating her death at all. I wouldn’t go as far as calling all the adoration she’s getting “undeserved” as she clearly means a lot to a lot of people, despite what she may or may have not done. Being adored does not mean one is deserving of the adoration they receive.
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Post by pg13 on Sept 9, 2022 10:41:56 GMT
If you actually read my post, which may be too much to ask, I said 'if you're celebrating this, then you're a tosser'. Not if you're indifferent or a republican etc... I was referring to those people who think a mother and grandmother's death is a good thing. I read your post thanks. If you don't understand why certain groups of people would be happy about this then I think you probably don't know enough about what she's done, contributed to or her family history. It's quite rich to tell those groups of people how they are supposed to feel in all honesty. Even Republicans have enough decorum to know now isn’t the time for this crap as well. I linked to an article by Brendan O'Neill for this reason. Again, you could learn a thing or two here.....
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Post by pg13 on Sept 9, 2022 10:42:30 GMT
I wouldn’t go as far as calling all the adoration she’s getting “undeserved” as she clearly means a lot to a lot of people, despite what she may or may have not done. Being adored does not mean one is deserving of the adoration they receive. Circular reasoning. 🙄
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2022 12:35:31 GMT
I'm a Republican (not THAT kind), but I have cop on.
It's a seismic event for our friends here in the UK and Commonwealth areas. Her legacy will be debated for the rest of time like all others, a few days decorum isn't hard.
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Post by respect77 on Sept 9, 2022 16:04:44 GMT
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Post by respect77 on Sept 9, 2022 16:26:14 GMT
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Post by Russg on Sept 9, 2022 20:31:56 GMT
Wow... I never knew that was the Queen on HIStory.
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