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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2023 23:47:33 GMT
On the other hand, a couple of years ago a very small Irish radio station got bombarded by fans because they wouldn't play him thinking it was referring to the allegations. It was a small Dublin based station that would never in a million years play MJ, but the Twitter onslaught was mortifying.
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Post by butterflies2 on Aug 19, 2023 0:50:55 GMT
I feel sick over the appeal being overturned. I’m already going through something health wise and don’t need the extra stress why can’t they just let him rest? I just cried over this, I can’t even cry for what I’m already going through. Mom just heard about it and told me, I briefly explained it and said they should let him rest and they are after money
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Post by pg13 on Aug 19, 2023 12:15:34 GMT
This shit is now on another forum I read with just 10 replies. 11 now as I posted about Robson harassing Lily.
The thread starter believes 100% Robson and Safechuck are telling the truth. 🤦♂️
I also pointed out that members of the jury didn't believe a word of what the Arvizos alleged too.
No doubt an angry DARVO filled rant from the thread starter will be waiting for me whenever I look again later.
DARVO - Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender.
Good job I don't really get emotional in ANY debate. It helps to stick to established facts AND understand several logical fallacies too.
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Post by butterflies2 on Aug 19, 2023 23:53:46 GMT
I envy you for not getting emotional cause I’m struggling that people will judge me all over again like from 20 years ago
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Post by history2010 on Aug 20, 2023 1:38:30 GMT
and aside from classmates making jokes to try and get a rise out of me, they also asked if I wanted to be molested. This happened to me in high school. I was asked to name celebrity that I would have loved to meet and I said Michael Jackson. The response was "Why? So you could get molested like the rest of the boys at Neverland?". Teenagers can be really cruel.
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Post by russtcb on Aug 20, 2023 11:05:54 GMT
I tweeted about our Stationhead party next Monday for MJs birthday cdlefbation) celebration. 2 of the replies were people going on about hum being guilty. I blocked both without replying. It may not sound like much, it that's a big step for me. Well this aged poorly. I inserted myself into an MJ guilters conversation yesterday and caused myself a ton of grief. I'm going to spend today trying my best to go back to blocking people. That's much better for my mental health.
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Post by MattyJam on Aug 20, 2023 11:10:51 GMT
I tweeted about our Stationhead party next Monday for MJs birthday cdlefbation) celebration. 2 of the replies were people going on about hum being guilty. I blocked both without replying. It may not sound like much, it that's a big step for me. Well this aged poorly. I inserted myself into an MJ guilters conversation yesterday and caused myself a ton of grief. I'm going to spend today trying my best to go back to blocking people. That's much better for my mental health. And that was your first mistake. It's so tempting on Twitter - Christ knows I've done it a number of times - sometimes it's hard to bite your tongue. But ultimately, it's never worth engaging with these people.
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Post by russtcb on Aug 20, 2023 11:57:14 GMT
Well this aged poorly. I inserted myself into an MJ guilters conversation yesterday and caused myself a ton of grief. I'm going to spend today trying my best to go back to blocking people. That's much better for my mental health. And that was your first mistake. It's so tempting on Twitter - Christ knows I've done it a number of times - sometimes it's hard to bite your tongue. But ultimately, it's never worth engaging with these people. YEP. As soon as I did it, I thought "dammit that was dumb". It is what it is though. Lesson learned (again) and I'll keep getting better at not engaging these idiots.
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Post by pg13 on Aug 20, 2023 12:25:00 GMT
This shit is now on another forum I read with just 10 replies. 11 now as I posted about Robson harassing Lily. The thread starter believes 100% Robson and Safechuck are telling the truth. 🤦♂️ I also pointed out that members of the jury didn't believe a word of what the Arvizos alleged too. No doubt an angry DARVO filled rant from the thread starter will be waiting for me whenever I look again later. DARVO - Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender. Good job I don't really get emotional in ANY debate. It helps to stick to established facts AND understand several logical fallacies too. Update - only 6 posts since I posted on it. Good sign most people don't give a shite and are over it! If a future thread picks up considerably more posts, I'll be sure to debate right back. And HARDER than they can possibly do!
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Post by pg13 on Aug 20, 2023 12:32:19 GMT
I envy you for not getting emotional cause I’m struggling that people will judge me all over again like from 20 years ago I just keep a very strict focus on the debate. It doesn't matter what I'm debating on - MJ, music classifications, politics, history, etc - I don't lose focus. Or lose the plot emotionally because that is how you lose debates. I much prefer to WIN debates and nearly always have a stack of evidence ready to pick from. It helps to write an essay to yourself and then select the best, bite sized arguments you've got. Copy and paste that wherever! Sun Tzu's Art Of War is something I read to figure out a strategy too. Don't try to defend every single point because you'll spread yourself too thinly. Focus only on the core arguments and you've more chance of winning. Usually, debates I'm in don't last too long once it becomes clearer to my opponent I'm more organised than they are. Organise, discipline, focus! Actually, Taj needs to learn that!
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Post by pg13 on Aug 20, 2023 12:33:43 GMT
And that was your first mistake. It's so tempting on Twitter - Christ knows I've done it a number of times - sometimes it's hard to bite your tongue. But ultimately, it's never worth engaging with these people. YEP. As soon as I did it, I thought "dammit that was dumb". It is what it is though. Lesson learned (again) and I'll keep getting better at not engaging these idiots. It's not a mistake. It's a learning opportunity! Lets you know where you need to sharpen your arguments. I suppose you can use ChatGPT for that! Less stressful.
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Post by pg13 on Aug 20, 2023 12:35:21 GMT
I changed my vote to YES because it turns out it does bother me more than sometimes.
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Post by butterflies2 on Aug 20, 2023 18:07:44 GMT
I was put down for having my own opinions generally speaking, so sometimes speaking up about having a mind of my own doesn’t come easily to me. I guess it’s how I’m wired, and hate it. I used to defend him all the time 2003-05 but I’m mentally exhausted from it all
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Post by kaeleah on Aug 20, 2023 19:04:53 GMT
For the sake of my own mental health, I just avoid talking about him to most people...ever since the #MeToo movement, it's been seen as a bad look to ever publically doubt an accuser of sexual abuse, no matter what...
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Post by butterflies2 on Aug 20, 2023 20:29:53 GMT
For the sake of my own mental health, I just avoid talking about him to most people...ever since the #MeToo movement, it's been seen as a bad look to ever publically doubt an accuser of sexual abuse, no matter what... I’m glad me too exists, but it doesn’t apply to mj
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