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Post by butterflies2 on Aug 24, 2023 0:24:25 GMT
Pick your favourite. This means you like all the tracks and accompanying visuals.
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Post by respect77 on Aug 24, 2023 12:20:56 GMT
What makes an album a "visual album" rather than "an album with videos"?
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Post by aazzaabb on Aug 24, 2023 12:54:35 GMT
What makes an album a "visual album" rather than "an album with videos"? The Beyoncé albums come with a visual disc also. So you get the CD and a DVD. I think her last few were sort of long form films with the tracks tied in to them.
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Post by aazzaabb on Aug 24, 2023 13:17:23 GMT
I watched the Lemonade one probably seen a few others but can’t remember them. From what I understand Beyoncé & JayZ poached this idea from Kanye when he made his My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy film and Kanye was influenced by MJ.
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Post by respect77 on Aug 24, 2023 13:29:40 GMT
What makes an album a "visual album" rather than "an album with videos"? The Beyoncé albums come with a visual disc also. So you get the CD and a DVD. I think her last few were sort of long form films with the tracks tied in to them. I'm trying to figure it out, so I watched the videos of Beyonce and Limonade. They are visually very similar, so you can say there is a visual coherence there (cinematography) between the videos that maybe makes them "visual album" rather than standalone short films. I didn't really discover the long form film in them, though, unless you meant another album.
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Post by respect77 on Aug 24, 2023 13:31:53 GMT
I watched the Lemonade one probably seen a few others but can’t remember them. From what I understand Beyoncé & JayZ poached this idea from Kanye when he made his My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy film and Kanye was influenced by MJ. Beyonce cited MJ as her influence:
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Post by aazzaabb on Aug 24, 2023 13:35:32 GMT
I watched the Lemonade one probably seen a few others but can’t remember them. From what I understand Beyoncé & JayZ poached this idea from Kanye when he made his My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy film and Kanye was influenced by MJ. Beyonce cited MJ as her influence:
Well yes, they pretty much used Kanye and then he fell out with them. At least that’s my understanding of it.
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Post by aazzaabb on Aug 24, 2023 13:52:04 GMT
I don’t want to derail or turn this into an anti Beyoncé thing but Kanye produced beats for JayZ and tracks for her and discussed with her what he wanted to do with his albums, 2910’s MDTF being his first -if I remember correctly?- visual album and then all of a sudden Beyoncé is doing the same thing, and of course then she’s saying the inspiration was MJ. Hmm I don’t know. Questionable.
For the sake of the thread I’ll vote Lemonade. I will say I loved the aesthetics, colours and visuals. I’ll have to rewatch it and the others.
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Post by aazzaabb on Aug 24, 2023 14:46:09 GMT
The Beyoncé albums come with a visual disc also. So you get the CD and a DVD. I think her last few were sort of long form films with the tracks tied in to them. I'm trying to figure it out, so I watched the videos of Beyonce and Limonade. They are visually very similar, so you can say there is a visual coherence there (cinematography) between the videos that maybe makes them "visual album" rather than standalone short films. I didn't really discover the long form film in them, though, unless you meant another album. I can’t remember -so I have to be careful- but what I mean is the long form film is basically those videos presented as one piece. I can’t remember if the videos on the disc are all separate or if it’s one continuous film? 🤔 My wife has all of these albums so I’d have to ask her. Janelle Monae did it also with her Dirty Computer album a few years ago. Again, I really liked it visually but it’s just bandwagon jumping at that point. Although hers was one sort of cohesive film. I’ve always classed MJ’s Bad as a visual album. It’s more satisfying. Full length Bad short film, full length TWYMMF, and all the other short films with it. Sure it’s not one cohesive film but it’s a whole universe instead. There’s even the different cut of Dirty Diana and they could have edited the Captain EO short film into a proper video for APOM. I love the live video but MJ also looks wicked in the EO film. Make a video for JGF from the studio footage and also the same with IJCSLY and that’s the best visual album by anyone ever anywhere ever, forever and ever.
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Post by butterflies2 on Aug 24, 2023 17:38:21 GMT
I also agree Bad is a visual album
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Post by respect77 on Aug 25, 2023 3:53:09 GMT
Not to derail, but, yeah, another reason why the Bad era was so fantastic is the stream of absolutely top notch videos.
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