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Post by butterflies2 on Nov 17, 2023 22:39:44 GMT
I sometimes wonder how he would have looked after the 80s had he used a black makeup artist instead of Karen Faye. I know he couldn’t help the vitiligo, but sometimes an artist of colour may understand makeup lighting from a different lens, so thought it would make an interesting discussion
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Post by NatureCriminal7896 on Nov 18, 2023 1:52:43 GMT
i'm not sure but didn't Michael had other make up artists than Karen Faye? this is a good question. i'm not a makeup artist but most of the time when a black professional comes in they do a good job. i think he would have looked different.
this isn't me taking away from Karen Faye even though at the end she turned his back and still continue to do so in her 70's. (real Karen much?) i do think his make up could have been better. you would've had to ask Michael that question. i mean he had her since 2005. so i guess he liked her work. i don't know. 😂😂😂
but to be honest Michael was getting tired wearing make up everyday. it wasn't just his face it was his body as well. it used to ruin his clothes.
imagine getting up everyday and have to cover your body with layers of make up? i think that would be tiring.
so it was Michael choice to stop the make up. of course he still wore mascara etc.
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Post by butterflies2 on Nov 18, 2023 2:08:25 GMT
I think herb ritts or kevyn aucoin(Janet’s makeup artist) may have done his makeup for the scream video. Michael wanted to hire him, but he declined.
Plus Karen was around since the mid 80s
Also, I agree it would have been frustrating ruining clothes with body makeup stains, but I meant specifically for the face.
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Post by NatureCriminal7896 on Nov 20, 2023 9:29:08 GMT
You know after looking back it could be a chance Michael probably didn't like Karen work and didn't want to hurt her feelings. ☹☹☹
you know Michael was very nice and well there were times he fired people. sometimes he did it if they turned his back on him. other times he just being a jerk wanted to do things his way and sometimes it was he didn't like the person work.
We don't know Karen personally or her intentions before she became Michael's make up artist she also had and still probably has a crush on him but he didn't like her back.
while i somewhat feel sorry for Karen that still didn't give her the right to turned her back on him and disrespect his family, kids, friends, acquaintances, and fans.
maybe this wasn't the right job or person for her.
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Post by NatureCriminal7896 on Nov 20, 2023 9:34:48 GMT
looking back at pictures of Michael i'm going to be honest and i'm not being mean but sometimes his make up was off. yes he had vitiligo but his make up could have been so much better. Michael did have another make up artist in 2006 - early 2009 name Lynda Parrish after he fired Karen in 2005. this is her. she did his make up these magazine photoshoots. alot of fans like these photoshoots. turns out in 2009 Karen came back for this is it. it been said Lynda Parrish to do his make up not Karen. i take back what i said. i think if Michael had a black professional make up artist. he probably wouldn't go to the medication so quickly. but even with that he was still tired wearing make up everyday. i'm sorry but Karen fail Michael. he needed it someone to help him but she wasn't it. this isn't me excusing her sick unacceptable behavior but if Michael had the right people alot things probably wouldn't happen.
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Post by NatureCriminal7896 on Nov 20, 2023 9:40:51 GMT
I think herb ritts or kevyn aucoin(Janet’s makeup artist) may have done his makeup for the scream video. Michael wanted to hire him, but he declined.
Plus Karen was around since the mid 80sAlso, I agree it would have been frustrating ruining clothes with body makeup stains, but I meant specifically for the face. i'm not sure if this true because others say Karen was there. but if this is true thanks for tell me i didn't know that. no Karen was around much longer since the Thriller album cover/photoshoot. this her in this video and look at Michael he looks so annoyed.
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Post by butterflies2 on Nov 22, 2023 5:54:48 GMT
I wondered if he was annoyed with her or his hair in that clip, he sounded irritable.
I think they were really good friends and had a strong bond cause she saw and supported him when he was at his most vulnerable with the skin changes
I thought his makeup looked nice and different during the 1999 mtv interview and the 2007 ebony cover, I wondered if someone else had done it
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