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Post by Liberian Girl on Oct 11, 2017 16:47:01 GMT
Since it has been revealed in the media that Hollywood film company owner Harvey Weinstein has repeatedly, over the years, sexually harassed and abused several actresses, there have been a few big responses online from people in the public eye.
One article caught my attention: one by Piers Morgan. Now, I want to add here first and foremost that I don't like Piers, I've always found him to come across as quite arrogant, rude and up his "own behind" to be honest. But he wrote an article for the Daily Mail online and I wondered what you all made of this opinion on the Weinstein article...it certainly made me think about some of the double standards in Hollywood.
Piers wrote:
Harvey has lost his marriage and his career. It's a staggering fall from grace, even by the brutal standards of Hollywood.
Yet it's a fall that deserves not a scintilla of sympathy, given the scale of his appalling behaviour...now we've seen another side exposed, one that's made very grim reading: that of a ruthless, selfish, bullying, misogynist prone to harassing women into trading sexual favours for movie roles. But this scandal goes much further and murkier than just Harvey Weinstein.
[This abuse story] goes right to the heart of Hollywood's sickening deceit and hypocrisy. Take his great friend Meryl Streep, for example; the woman who called Weinstein 'God' at an awards ceremony. Streep, eventually, after four days of silence, described the abuse revelations as 'disgraceful' and said they 'appalled those of us whose work he championed.'
Fine words, but how exactly do they sit with Streep's public displays of support for another notorious Hollywood sex abuser – Roman Polanski?
In 2003, Polanski won Best Director at the Oscars for The Pianist.
When Harrison Ford announced his name, the audience – comprising all the great and good of the movie business - burst into prolonged loud clapping and cheering.
Leading the applause was Meryl Streep, who sprang to her feet to give Polanski a standing ovation. In March, 1977, the director was arrested and charged in Los Angeles with five offenses against Samantha Gailey, a 13-year-old girl: rape by use of drugs, perversion, sodomy, lewd and lascivious act upon a child under 14, and furnishing a controlled substance to a minor.
Polanski, then 43, did a deal with prosecutors in which he pled guilty to a charge of engaging in unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor.
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So, you get the general point he is making. These claims against Weinstein reveal a really dark side of Hollywood. So many have come forward, uniting with other actors, stating they were either harassed or sexually abused. So many are now standing against him (and rightfully so, of course!) however there seems to be a double standard because the same Hollywood community have defended, applauded and worked with Roman Polanski.
So, I'd like to know your opinions on this. It feels wrong to me that the entire world of actors are throwing their arms up about this and washing their hands of Weinstein, yet the same community outwardly love and respect Polanski who has ADMITTED having sex with a child. I feel both of these men are awful criminals, and the entire community should have been up in arms against both men. Why does it seem there are double standards?
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Post by respect77 on Oct 11, 2017 18:27:19 GMT
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Post by Russg on Oct 12, 2017 4:34:01 GMT
With the rate at which so many women are coming forward, it will be not so much a case of who he harassed as it is a case of who he hasn't pawed himself over. Ugh!
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Post by respect77 on Oct 12, 2017 5:27:40 GMT
For the sake of fairness re. the article I posted. Snow White on MJJC said Lori "Lightning" Mattix is of questionable credibility and she never showed proof she even knew David Bowie. She does have pics with Jimmy Page, but not with Bowie. She may be lying or exaggerating about her "adventures". Back to the Weinstein case and the hypocricy it highlights: edition.cnn.com/2017/10/11/entertainment/ben-affleck-apology/index.html
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Post by mjjfan810 on Oct 12, 2017 7:17:21 GMT
The casting couch...been around for years and should have been stopped a long time ago.
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Post by Russg on Oct 12, 2017 7:19:43 GMT
Not implying anything apart from ... that looks sketchy as
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Post by respect77 on Oct 12, 2017 19:28:28 GMT
Wow, shit really hit the fan in Hollywood with this. Now all kind of allegations are flying around about people. This actress accuses George Clooney.
Of course, it is difficult to tell if these allegations are true or someone just has sour grapes for a failed career and sees this scandal as an opportunity to blame it on someone else.
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Post by TonyR on Oct 12, 2017 21:40:09 GMT
The problem with these scandals is that it brings a lot of false accusations out as well as a lot of people who just dress up a guy trying it in with them as being a sexual predator.
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Post by MattyJam on Oct 13, 2017 7:55:38 GMT
I can't help but feel as if Weinstein is being used as the fall guy for a problem that is far bigger and far more sinister than anyone in the industry would openly and publicly admit.
I'm not saying these accusations against Weinstein are false (there are too many accusers, multiple A-list actresses who have nothing to gain from accusing him). But I do think now that he's been hung out to dry, the media and the Hollywood Mafia are using him as a scapegoat, subtly patronising the public by suggesting that this kind of behaviour won't go unpunished and that sexual harassment of adults is the big, bad secret that Hollywood has been hiding all these years, when anyone with half a brain cell knows that Harvey Weinstein's sexual escapades are merely the tip of a very murky iceberg that goes all the way to the top.
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Post by respect77 on Oct 13, 2017 19:04:40 GMT
I can't help but feel as if Weinstein is being used as the fall guy for a problem that is far bigger and far more sinister than anyone in the industry would openly and publicly admit. I'm not saying these accusations against Weinstein are false (there are too many accusers, multiple A-list actresses who have nothing to gain from accusing him). But I do think now that he's been hung out to dry, the media and the Hollywood Mafia are using him as a scapegoat, subtly patronising the public by suggesting that this kind of behaviour won't go unpunished and that sexual harassment of adults is the big, bad secret that Hollywood has been hiding all these years, when anyone with half a brain cell knows that Harvey Weinstein's sexual escapades are merely the tip of a very murky iceberg that goes all the way to the top. I don't know if that's what you are alluding to, but in his book and various interviews Corey Feldman talked about the child sexual abuse that is prelevant in Hollywood. In fact, when he was interviewed by the police for MJ's 1993 case he told them a name. Only it wasn't MJ's name, so they ignored that information. They just tried to get him say MJ molested him. It pisses me off how all these years they have been on a witch hunt against MJ when the real perverts are out there.
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Post by MattyJam on Oct 14, 2017 9:03:12 GMT
I can't help but feel as if Weinstein is being used as the fall guy for a problem that is far bigger and far more sinister than anyone in the industry would openly and publicly admit. I'm not saying these accusations against Weinstein are false (there are too many accusers, multiple A-list actresses who have nothing to gain from accusing him). But I do think now that he's been hung out to dry, the media and the Hollywood Mafia are using him as a scapegoat, subtly patronising the public by suggesting that this kind of behaviour won't go unpunished and that sexual harassment of adults is the big, bad secret that Hollywood has been hiding all these years, when anyone with half a brain cell knows that Harvey Weinstein's sexual escapades are merely the tip of a very murky iceberg that goes all the way to the top. I don't know if that's what you are alluding to, but in his book and various interviews Corey Feldman talked about the child sexual abuse that is prelevant in Hollywood. In fact, when he was interviewed by the police for MJ's 1993 case he told them a name. Only it wasn't MJ's name, so they ignored that information. They just tried to get him say MJ molested him. It pisses me off how all these years they have been on a witch hunt against MJ when the real perverts are out there. That was exactly what I was alluding to. Maybe I'm paranoid, but whenever the media seem to focus all their attention on vilifying and demonising one individual to such an hysterical level, I can't help but wonder if there's some kind of concerted effort trying to deflect public suspicion from more important public figures who may have committed similar, or perhaps even more heinous crimes.
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Oct 14, 2017 20:50:01 GMT
I definitely think that there's a lot more of this going on than we could ever believe. And I think when someone is accused or is found out to have taken part in some act, there is definitely an effort to protect others who have done the same.
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Post by dancingmjsdream on Oct 14, 2017 20:54:44 GMT
I can't help but feel as if Weinstein is being used as the fall guy for a problem that is far bigger and far more sinister than anyone in the industry would openly and publicly admit. I'm not saying these accusations against Weinstein are false (there are too many accusers, multiple A-list actresses who have nothing to gain from accusing him). But I do think now that he's been hung out to dry, the media and the Hollywood Mafia are using him as a scapegoat, subtly patronising the public by suggesting that this kind of behaviour won't go unpunished and that sexual harassment of adults is the big, bad secret that Hollywood has been hiding all these years, when anyone with half a brain cell knows that Harvey Weinstein's sexual escapades are merely the tip of a very murky iceberg that goes all the way to the top. I don't know if that's what you are alluding to, but in his book and various interviews Corey Feldman talked about the child sexual abuse that is prelevant in Hollywood. In fact, when he was interviewed by the police for MJ's 1993 case he told them a name. Only it wasn't MJ's name, so they ignored that information. They just tried to get him say MJ molested him. It pisses me off how all these years they have been on a witch hunt against MJ when the real perverts are out there. Wait... Corey told them A NAME, and they ignored it?! What the hell.... how desperate were they that they didn't bother to investigate unless it was MJ... did Corey tell that story or where do you get that information from?
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Post by TonyR on Oct 14, 2017 21:34:44 GMT
I don't know if that's what you are alluding to, but in his book and various interviews Corey Feldman talked about the child sexual abuse that is prelevant in Hollywood. In fact, when he was interviewed by the police for MJ's 1993 case he told them a name. Only it wasn't MJ's name, so they ignored that information. They just tried to get him say MJ molested him. It pisses me off how all these years they have been on a witch hunt against MJ when the real perverts are out there. Wait... Corey told them A NAME, and they ignored it?! What the hell.... how desperate were they that they didn't bother to investigate unless it was MJ... did Corey tell that story or where do you get that information from? I thought he didn't give a name, he just said it wasn't Michael.
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Post by dancingmjsdream on Oct 14, 2017 21:46:42 GMT
Wait... Corey told them A NAME, and they ignored it?! What the hell.... how desperate were they that they didn't bother to investigate unless it was MJ... did Corey tell that story or where do you get that information from? I thought he didn't give a name, he just said it wasn't Michael. I hope so 😔
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