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Post by Snow White on Nov 21, 2017 1:28:29 GMT
If I don't fully know something, I don't resort to spread tabloid crap or lies like you do. I would rather investigate than keeping rumors or preconceived nonsense. Just because you believe in something, it doesn't make it automatically truthful. Michael had female child friends and not just the sisters.
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Post by Thriller on Nov 21, 2017 3:19:38 GMT
Really? We don't count members of the Jackson family or sisters of Michael's boy pals. Michael may be innocent, but he always seemed to have special boy pals - Emmanuel Lewis, Jimmy Safechuck, Wade Robson, Gavin Arvision, Jordie Chandler, Omar Bhatti, Corey Haim, Macauley Culkin and the like and he lost interest when they became adults. I am also not spreading this nonsense, it is fact, Michael wrote notes to Jordie saying that there were no hoes or bitches ever in their club. Sisters and girls were welcome but often slept in guest suites rather than Michael's bedroom complex (Which was the size of a house in itself). I don't care what none of you say,this kid shit is not normal for a grown ass man. And don't start that "Oh he was robbed of his childhood, he is trying to recapture it" - well if thats the case, his childhood recaptured lasted at least from 1984 to 2005 - that is 21 years of extra childhood. Plus also Bowie seemed to be above media scrutiny as he was open and accessible and also encourage his fans to express opinions. Bowie also never started beefs with his record companies and ran up bills for silly things like studio perfume and buying 20 cherubs and not paying for them. People were not suing him left right and centre. Not to say he was immune, he got hammered over the so called Nazi salute at Victoria station in 1976, and then the stories of him and Mick Jagger having sex and Angie caught them, but things like Bisexuality went down better in the UK, where there is less empahis on hate churches like the USA and people are MUCH MUCH MUCH more open minded than Americans. There's no proof for that. Jordan nor other members of the Chandler family ever said this. Victor Gutierrez is the source for it and his reliability is zilch. The media claimed MJ lost interest in children once they reached puberty. It was yet more media nonsense. Emmanuel Lewis on set for The Way You Make Me Feel video. Emmanuel would have been 16 at the time. Jimmy Safechuck - Was on the set of the HIStory teaser. Safechuck would have been 16. Wade Robson - Wade held a barbecue for his family and MJ and MJ's children in 2008. Wade was 26. Gavin Arvizo - Why is he listed? Nobody knows if MJ and he would of maintained contact. Jordan Chandler - Same as above. Omer Bhatti - They had such little contact when Omer became an adult that he was seated in the front row at MJ's memorial. Omer with MJ's children in 2006 when Omer would of been 17-18. Corey Feldman - The friendship ended in 2001 when MJ had heard Corey was going to criticise him in his book. So Corey would have been 29-30 years old when the friendship ended. Macaulay Culkin - Macaulay stopped visiting Neverland in his teens as he never found himself going to Los Angeles. However, he did return to the ranch when he was 17. He is also Paris' Godfather. Another two off of the top of my mind are the Cascio brothers. Frank even became MJ's manager at one point. --- Also, girls did sleep in his bedroom. The prosecution and media didn't want to mention girls though. Macaulay Culkin's sister slept in MJ's bedroom, as did MJ's niece Brandi, his hairdresser's daughter, Chantal Robson did for a night but believed MJ should have his privacy, but clearly she was allowed to be in his room. Nicole Richie also slept in his bedroom. Another girl here also:
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Post by respect77 on Nov 21, 2017 4:42:12 GMT
I am also not spreading this nonsense, it is fact, Michael wrote notes to Jordie saying that there were no hoes or bitches ever in their club. For anyone, but especially for someone who is calling himself a fan, it is embarrassing to call and spread around Victor Gutierrez's crap as "a fact". No one ever presented such a note, it is a Victor Gutierrez myth. And once again, the hater myth of MJ only hanging with boys. For your information: he hung with a lot of girls. You claim those were just sisters of the boys - again a hater myth. You might have missed the current Jane Doe allegations where it was the girl of a family he hung out with, despite of her having two brothers. And Jane Doe has more notes written to her by MJ than any of his male accusers. Not that it makes her allegations more credible, because every note he has ever written to a child is about an innocent friendship. (And she withdraw her allegations since.) The point is simply just because the media acted like female friends did not exist in MJ's life it doesn't make it so. And that he lost interest in the kids when they became adults is yet another hater myth like Thriller addressed it above. And Corey Haim was never close to MJ. I don't even think they ever met or if they did it was just once. It was Corey Feldman who MJ hung out with, not Haim. Some other female friends: Etc. etc.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 5:28:31 GMT
You people really stop at nothing do you. Time to take the rose tinted glasses off I think. I though we banned the blind rosa fans like you guys and allowed realistic debate. No point arguing with deluded dolly birds who think Michael Jackson was God and sat on shining pillar and simonizing his halo all day long I don't think Michael was a paedophile and never have, he was far too loving and naive to be one, most paedophiles are sly and manipulative, Michael was almost pure in childish Disney type way. But I feel he was asexual borderlining into homosexual and he was attracted to men and youths, there was hettie porno everywhere so no one would get suspicious and this was worse to be judged gay in his background of machine gun - mackin da hoes, mouth shut, legs open type sexism of his brother and father, where women were seen as vessels to pump out babies and do as they were told. All of his brothers marriages had problems and Jermaine, Tito and Jackie along with Randy were known to smack their women around like Joe did with everyone. Michael never inherited this violent streak and was disgusted by it.
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Post by milo on Nov 21, 2017 5:50:31 GMT
I can’t believe we are still having to debunk this myth of Michael not befriending girls, on a MJ’s fan forum nonetheless. We have Marielle Tourelle, Amanda Porter, Sky Ferreira, Amy Agajanian and many other girls telling their stories of their friendship with Michael when they were kids. Lala Romero: http://instagram.com/p/BYZ_XxsDUE8
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Post by milo on Nov 21, 2017 6:01:00 GMT
You people really stop at nothing do you. Time to take the rose tinted glasses off I think. I though we banned the blind rosa fans like you guys and allowed realistic debate. No point arguing with deluded dolly birds who think Michael Jackson was God and sat on shining pillar and simonizing his halo all day long I don't think Michael was a paedophile and never have, he was far too loving and naive to be one, most paedophiles are sly and manipulative, Michael was almost pure in childish Disney type way. But I feel he was asexual borderlining into homosexual and he was attracted to men and youths, there was hettie porno everywhere so no one would get suspicious and this was worse to be judged gay in his background of machine gun - mackin da hoes, mouth shut, legs open type sexism of his brother and father, where women were seen as vessels to pump out babies and do as they were told. All of his brothers marriages had problems and Jermaine, Tito and Jackie along with Randy were known to smack their women around like Joe did with everyone. Michael never inherited this violent streak and was disgusted by it. Ironic that you’re accusing people who are contradicting your false, slanderous and inflammatory claims with verified evidence of being delusional. How can someone have a "realistic debate" with you when you clearly don’t care about the reality of MJ’s life but only your sick and twisted sexual fantasies. You don’t care about facts, you’re simply projecting your disturbing mindset onto Michael. But by your behavior on this forum, I presume your next step is to play the victim and claim you’re being bullied.
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Post by respect77 on Nov 21, 2017 6:01:02 GMT
You people really stop at nothing do you. Time to take the rose tinted glasses off I think. I though we banned the blind rosa fans like you guys and allowed realistic debate. No point arguing with deluded dolly birds who think Michael Jackson was God and sat on shining pillar and simonizing his halo all day long Pointing out untrue nonsense in your comments is not "rose tinted glasses". If something is not true then it is not true and no amount of ad hominem attacks like "you guys have rose tinted glasses" will make a lie a fact. And not this unoriginal and boring "you think MJ was a God" nonsense. It's always the sign of someone being caught in nonsense and lies, and unable to respond to facts and arguments in a proper way. Your feelings are not facts. You feeling something doesn't make something a fact either. It is funny coming from you, talking about someone else's supposed sexism...
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Post by Snow White on Nov 21, 2017 6:01:59 GMT
You just love to write a pile of horseshit when there's evidence that actually debunks it but you wonder why people don't like you and criticize what you write.
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Post by respect77 on Nov 21, 2017 6:13:01 GMT
You don’t care about facts, you’re simply projecting your disturbing mindset onto Michael. IMO it's exactly that.
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Post by HIStoric on Nov 21, 2017 6:59:01 GMT
You people really stop at nothing do you. Time to take the rose tinted glasses off I think. I though we banned the blind rosa fans like you guys and allowed realistic debate. Hardly "rose tinted" if they're providing actual written and photographic evidence dude 🙄
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 9:29:54 GMT
So what! I am gay and I am not ashamed of it. I am not being bullied, you guys do not agree with me fine and I repsect your views and your right to hold them, but I will alwas have mine. They are feelings not facts. The only person who knows the truth is dead and that is our Michael Jackson.
Believe me, I would love to be proved wrong.
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Post by respect77 on Nov 21, 2017 10:39:03 GMT
No one is attacking you because you are gay. You are being criticzed for the debunked tabloid bullcrap that you keep spreading about MJ and then call it a "fact". You always say inflammatory, offensive BS then when people call you out you claim you are being bullied and act as if you are the victim. And it's not just MJ topics. It's the same whenever you make racist or sexist comments. Or when someone has the nerve to disagree with you about which Janet Jackson song they like.
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Post by HIStoric on Nov 21, 2017 12:03:33 GMT
Believe me, I would love to be proved wrong. Scroll up.
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Post by suzie on Nov 21, 2017 14:22:43 GMT
You people really stop at nothing do you. Time to take the rose tinted glasses off I think. I though we banned the blind rosa fans like you guys and allowed realistic debate. No point arguing with deluded dolly birds who think Michael Jackson was God and sat on shining pillar and simonizing his halo all day long I don't think Michael was a paedophile and never have, he was far too loving and naive to be one, most paedophiles are sly and manipulative, Michael was almost pure in childish Disney type way. But I feel he was asexual borderlining into homosexual and he was attracted to men and youths, there was hettie porno everywhere so no one would get suspicious and this was worse to be judged gay in his background of machine gun - mackin da hoes, mouth shut, legs open type sexism of his brother and father, where women were seen as vessels to pump out babies and do as they were told. All of his brothers marriages had problems and Jermaine, Tito and Jackie along with Randy were known to smack their women around like Joe did with everyone. Michael never inherited this violent streak and was disgusted by it. So because you can't get people to accept some shit you dig up from the tabs as truth, their deluded? LOL take a very long look at the man in the mirror
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Post by rhilo on Nov 21, 2017 16:05:01 GMT
TF am I reading here? Are some people in doubt of Michael's innocence? But still continuing to be a fan and post on a fan forum? mm kay 😒
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