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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2020 14:18:24 GMT
@innuendo141 Just saw he also released a new EP on Spotify which you might like. Has a remastered track and some bonus goodies.
Already love Young Boy! Cheers
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Post by aazzaabb on Jul 5, 2020 12:12:19 GMT
I still haven’t sat down and begun my McCartney thing just yet because I can’t quite focus with things going on around me and work but it’s definitely forthcoming. I’ve got another week of work ahead of me and then a few weeks holiday which is probably the time I’ll begin the McCartney thing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 12:32:10 GMT
I still haven’t sat down and begun my McCartney thing just yet because I can’t quite focus with things going on around me and work but it’s definitely forthcoming. I’ve got another week of work ahead of me and then a few weeks holiday which is probably the time I’ll begin the McCartney thing. God speed. My Prince-athon has definitely been intense. Had to take a week off but looking forward to getting back in. Enjoy Wings!
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Post by aazzaabb on Jul 5, 2020 22:23:39 GMT
This was fantastic when I watched it a few years ago and after watching it I immediately bought the superb Egypt Station!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2020 17:41:09 GMT
HIStoric What do you think of Flowers in the Dirt?
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Post by HIStoric on Aug 15, 2020 1:48:34 GMT
HIStoric What do you think of Flowers in the Dirt? Should give it another whirl, it's been a good couple years now since I gave it a proper play or two with it's Archive Collection treatment. A handful of tracks stand out to me! My Brave Face, Motor of Love, Rough Ride, Distractions... The two songs I like most is 'We Got Married' - which is a sick song to drive to on a sunny weekend afternoon and has a fantastic extended instrumental section in the middle. The other one is this bonus track called Ou est le Soleil?. I don't think many people consider it one of their favourites on the album, and I don't blame them, I've just always found that beat infectious so it's one of my most played.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2020 8:41:39 GMT
HIStoric What do you think of Flowers in the Dirt? Should give it another whirl, it's been a good couple years now since I gave it a proper play or two with it's Archive Collection treatment. A handful of tracks stand out to me! My Brave Face, Motor of Love, Rough Ride, Distractions... The two songs I like most is 'We Got Married' - which is a sick song to drive to on a sunny weekend afternoon and has a fantastic extended instrumental section in the middle. The other one is this bonus track called Ou est le Soleil?. I don't think many people consider it one of their favourites on the album, and I don't blame them, I've just always found that beat infectious so it's one of my most played.
I was going to listen last night but I got too tired its on my list. Of Macas 80s stuff I dont think Ive ever listened to this in full. Im a fan of Tug of War and Pipes of Peace so wonder what an 89 sounding Maca is like.
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Post by aazzaabb on Aug 15, 2020 8:50:17 GMT
I picked up the latest edition of GQ which has Macca on the cover. Not particularly a magazine I ever bought but last months Billie Eilish feature was superb and this Macca one looks to be the same; nice article, interview and some lovely photos. You can probably get all of this free somewhere online but I like paper. Big paper fan here. 😎
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Post by HIStoric on Aug 15, 2020 9:08:35 GMT
I picked up the latest edition of GQ which has Macca on the cover. Not particularly a magazine I ever bought but last months Billie Eilish feature was superb and this Macca one looks to be the same; nice article, interview and some lovely photos. You can probably get all of this free somewhere online but I like paper. Big paper fan here. 😎 Yeah! It's a good article, and Macca's looking great! www.gq-magazine.co.uk/culture/article/paul-mccartney-interview
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Post by aazzaabb on Aug 15, 2020 9:18:46 GMT
I picked up the latest edition of GQ which has Macca on the cover. Not particularly a magazine I ever bought but last months Billie Eilish feature was superb and this Macca one looks to be the same; nice article, interview and some lovely photos. You can probably get all of this free somewhere online but I like paper. Big paper fan here. 😎 Yeah! It's a good article, and Macca's looking great! www.gq-magazine.co.uk/culture/article/paul-mccartney-interviewThat link won’t work for me. Says it won’t connect to the server. Probably because I’m in the UK. Looking forward to reading it though.
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Post by pg13 on Oct 12, 2020 9:59:19 GMT
Ok fair enough! However, I hope you are aware that John Lennon was actually possibly the biggest prick on the planet. He used beat his first wife, and emotionally abused his son Julian for pretty much most of his life. John had the "cooler" songs, I genuinely agree, but John Lennon as a man was a horrible piece of shit who sang songs like All You Need Is Love and Imagine but knocked 7 shades of shit out of Cynthia. Love his music, and he wrote my favourite Beatles tune (Strawberry Fields) but the guy actually was an horrific wanker for most of his life. Not much between him and Chris Brown.Yeah, John could be quite a complete wanker when he was younger and he was an abysmal father to Julian, but there is a stark difference between him and Chris Brown. John Lennon made a long term effect to change himself and for the better. Chris Brown hasn't.
Alongside severely beating Rihanna in an extended and extremely violent altercation, he has continued to remain a violent individual. In 2011 for example when asked about restraining orders against Rihanna, he got violent in his dressing room, throwing objects around - including a chair at the window (which thankfully didn't go through because this was right above Times Square), taking his shirt off he continued to get into many aggressive, loud confrontations with producers, security and crew members at the studio before finally leaving. Hell, just a few weeks ago he was literally arrested again for felony assault. It's been nearly 10 years since he beat Rihanna to a pulp, and we can see he still isn't that better of a man.
John Lennon is also well known for having hit his girlfriend (later wife), an act he should rightfully be criticized for. Alongside this he was also quite aggressive in his youth too - getting into physical altercations with both men and women fairly often. There is this common misconception however that he regularly bet Cynthia on the regular, which simply isn't true. Here's what really happened: In the late 1950s, John and his girlfriend - later wife - Cynthia were in a serious argument at a party that culminated in John slapping her, which caused her head to hit a pipe that was right behind her. John was immediately remorseful, Cynthia wasn't having it and she broke up with him for 3 months. John kept calling her up to apologise and only after those 3 months did they start talking again, which led to further romance and eventual marriage. After that incident at the party, John never ever hit her again. Not once. Cynthia herself has confirmed this on many occasions - hell here's a link to them all discussing it on separate occasions. John never ever hit Yoko either, and despite being asked about it Yoko always denied. While both acts are abhorrent, the attack on Rihanna was far, far, far worse as you can read in detail here.
John's violent tendencies culminated a couple years later at the age of 23, when at Paul's 21st, John beat the shit out of someone who accused him of having a homosexual affair with their openly-gay manager, subsequently sending him to a hospital. This was around the time The Beatles were starting to get big in Britain, and obviously this wasn't a good look for him. John soon apologized to the man (who accepted) and following this, John severely curbed his alcoholic intake. Not that he stopped drinking entirely, but he drunk much less that he never got violent again, until 11 years later when shortly after his break up with Yoko, he, Ringo, Harry Nilsson, Keith Moon, and others were kicked out of a bar for being drunk and loud. Some paparazzi outside tried to take photos of them, causing John to swing at them and miss. That was the last time John got physical with someone.
Throughout the 1960s and 1970s, John made a real effort to improve himself as a person. Alongside curbing the alcohol to stop his violent tendencies, he then further began using his influential position to not only spread words of peace and love, but raise awareness to inequality and specifically how women were treated as inferior to men - something quite uncommon in those days especially from male artists. "Woman is the Nigger of the World" is just one song that comes to mind. A song with a very controversial title, it raises many good points about the hypocrisies men show towards women; how many cultures over the world continued to treat them as inferior (the title comparing this to how white people treated black people). John never shied away from his violent past and was in fact very honest about it - literally the only reason we know about these incidents is because he openly admitted them in many interviews, and in his work too - see 'Getting Better'. Further so, he put his entire music career on hold to become a house-husband for his family, apparently even quitting drugs in the late 1970s to further be a better influence.
Let us make no mistake, I'm not saying he became this perfect man who did no wrong (just ask Julian). John Lennon was an extremely flawed person who made a great deal of wrong choices, choices that he can and should rightfully be criticised for, but he also went to real efforts to change himself for the better. Because of this, while I hate the acts he committed, I have to admire him for making that change. He's someone that shows that no matter how flawed you are or have been, with proper dedication you can change yourself as a person - and going back to the subject of Chris Brown, I think it'd do a lot of good for him to take a page out of John's book to see how he dealt with it.
The narrative here is incomplete - John Lennon the terrorist supporter/sympathiser. Innuendo said there wasn't much difference between Lennon and Chris Brown. As far as I'm aware, Chris Brown never supported Al Quaida which is the equivalent to Lennon's support of the Provos. Nothing at all peaceful or loving in any individual supporting the Provos who were the single biggest takers of life anywhere on the island of Ireland and the most dangerous terrorist organisation of their time. As for Russ..... Hes a complete self-righteous F*CKTARD who sold his soul to the devil and will pay the ultimate price in hell! Wouldn't piss on him if he were on fire. :mad: At least Macca never supported a terrorist organisation! Lennon's support for the Provos is typically ignored by Beatles and, especially Lennon fans. He was pretty misguided on that one.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2020 10:09:22 GMT
Yeah, John could be quite a complete wanker when he was younger and he was an abysmal father to Julian, but there is a stark difference between him and Chris Brown. John Lennon made a long term effect to change himself and for the better. Chris Brown hasn't.
Alongside severely beating Rihanna in an extended and extremely violent altercation, he has continued to remain a violent individual. In 2011 for example when asked about restraining orders against Rihanna, he got violent in his dressing room, throwing objects around - including a chair at the window (which thankfully didn't go through because this was right above Times Square), taking his shirt off he continued to get into many aggressive, loud confrontations with producers, security and crew members at the studio before finally leaving. Hell, just a few weeks ago he was literally arrested again for felony assault. It's been nearly 10 years since he beat Rihanna to a pulp, and we can see he still isn't that better of a man.
John Lennon is also well known for having hit his girlfriend (later wife), an act he should rightfully be criticized for. Alongside this he was also quite aggressive in his youth too - getting into physical altercations with both men and women fairly often. There is this common misconception however that he regularly bet Cynthia on the regular, which simply isn't true. Here's what really happened: In the late 1950s, John and his girlfriend - later wife - Cynthia were in a serious argument at a party that culminated in John slapping her, which caused her head to hit a pipe that was right behind her. John was immediately remorseful, Cynthia wasn't having it and she broke up with him for 3 months. John kept calling her up to apologise and only after those 3 months did they start talking again, which led to further romance and eventual marriage. After that incident at the party, John never ever hit her again. Not once. Cynthia herself has confirmed this on many occasions - hell here's a link to them all discussing it on separate occasions. John never ever hit Yoko either, and despite being asked about it Yoko always denied. While both acts are abhorrent, the attack on Rihanna was far, far, far worse as you can read in detail here.
John's violent tendencies culminated a couple years later at the age of 23, when at Paul's 21st, John beat the shit out of someone who accused him of having a homosexual affair with their openly-gay manager, subsequently sending him to a hospital. This was around the time The Beatles were starting to get big in Britain, and obviously this wasn't a good look for him. John soon apologized to the man (who accepted) and following this, John severely curbed his alcoholic intake. Not that he stopped drinking entirely, but he drunk much less that he never got violent again, until 11 years later when shortly after his break up with Yoko, he, Ringo, Harry Nilsson, Keith Moon, and others were kicked out of a bar for being drunk and loud. Some paparazzi outside tried to take photos of them, causing John to swing at them and miss. That was the last time John got physical with someone.
Throughout the 1960s and 1970s, John made a real effort to improve himself as a person. Alongside curbing the alcohol to stop his violent tendencies, he then further began using his influential position to not only spread words of peace and love, but raise awareness to inequality and specifically how women were treated as inferior to men - something quite uncommon in those days especially from male artists. "Woman is the Nigger of the World" is just one song that comes to mind. A song with a very controversial title, it raises many good points about the hypocrisies men show towards women; how many cultures over the world continued to treat them as inferior (the title comparing this to how white people treated black people). John never shied away from his violent past and was in fact very honest about it - literally the only reason we know about these incidents is because he openly admitted them in many interviews, and in his work too - see 'Getting Better'. Further so, he put his entire music career on hold to become a house-husband for his family, apparently even quitting drugs in the late 1970s to further be a better influence.
Let us make no mistake, I'm not saying he became this perfect man who did no wrong (just ask Julian). John Lennon was an extremely flawed person who made a great deal of wrong choices, choices that he can and should rightfully be criticised for, but he also went to real efforts to change himself for the better. Because of this, while I hate the acts he committed, I have to admire him for making that change. He's someone that shows that no matter how flawed you are or have been, with proper dedication you can change yourself as a person - and going back to the subject of Chris Brown, I think it'd do a lot of good for him to take a page out of John's book to see how he dealt with it.
Hes a complete self-righteous F*CKTARD who sold his soul to the devil and will pay the ultimate price in hell! Wouldn't piss on him if he were on fire. :mad: At least Macca never supported a terrorist organisation! Lennon's support for the Provos is typically ignored by Beatles and, especially Lennon fans. He was pretty misguided on that one. A response to a comment over 2 years old to bring up the Lennon/IRA connection in a Paul McCartney thread!?
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Post by pg13 on Oct 12, 2020 10:14:54 GMT
At least Macca never supported a terrorist organisation! Lennon's support for the Provos is typically ignored by Beatles and, especially Lennon fans. He was pretty misguided on that one. A response to a comment over 2 years old to bring up the Lennon/IRA connection in a Paul McCartney thread!? There's no time limit on discussions. And I'd have done so at the time if i was here then. It's patently ridiculous to excise this one from the conversation which is public. Even worse to see comments from Russ that Macca will be in hell and he had nothing on Lennon's fuckery. Lennon was all over this thread as it was and this is no different! And no time limit on truth either.
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Post by HIStoric on Oct 12, 2020 12:35:32 GMT
The narrative here is incomplete - John Lennon the terrorist supporter/sympathiser. Innuendo said there wasn't much difference between Lennon and Chris Brown. As far as I'm aware, Chris Brown never supported Al Quaida which is the equivalent to Lennon's support of the Provos. Nothing at all peaceful or loving in any individual supporting the Provos who were the single biggest takers of life anywhere on the island of Ireland and the most dangerous terrorist organisation of their time. Lennon's support for the Provos is typically ignored by Beatles and, especially Lennon fans. He was pretty misguided on that one. I can't speak of other fans, but I've generally not paid much attention to it because a) I haven't seen anyone outside of you bring it up and b) despite being in the Commonwealth, I know very little about the whole Britain vs. Ireland ordeal - so that will limit how much I can speak on the topic. But I've been reading up a bit on this tonight spurred by you.
I'm of the understanding that both Lennon and McCartney supported the general independence of Ireland, certainly sympathizing given Liverpool's strong immigrant population and that both of them had Irish ancestors. McCartney's support came after Bloody Sunday it seemed (spurring him to write 'Give Ireland Back to the Irish'), whereas Lennon's begun a year or two before. In August 1971, he attended a peaceful protest in London that attempted to pressure the British government into removing their troops from Ireland (the photo of him protesting - which I think I've seen you post before - is from that day). The next month he publicly spoke about his struggle between his pacifism and the violence of the Irish's struggle: "I understand why they’re doing it, and if it’s a choice between the IRA or the British army, I’m with the IRA. But if it’s a choice between violence and non-violence, I’m with non-violence. So it’s a very delicate line… Our backing of the Irish people is done, really, through the Irish Civil Rights, which is not the IRA. Although I condemn violence, if two people are fighting, I’m probably gonna be on one side or the other, even though I’m against violence.". Not sure if he was more 'provisional' or 'official' though. When it comes to supporting the IRA financially, there were unconfirmed reports that he donated to them before they split, although Yoko denied this. They did later donate royalties from their two songs 'Sunday Bloody Sunday' and 'Luck of the Irish' to the civil rights movement in Ireland, with Yoko saying it was "intended for "children, orphans and women in need."
I'm struggling to find much information that he continued to show his support for the IRA itself after 1972, when he wrote a song in response to Bloody Sunday and the IRA's violent attacks really took off. I did see some talks from people outside of Lennon's camp, like discussions of a concert, but nothing actually confirmed (or let alone happened) from what I could see. Anyhow, my opinion personally on this is that I'm fine with him peacefully protesting the British troops in Ireland, but any support for the IRA was indeed pretty misguided on his behalf. Paul clearly was unhappy with what Britain were doing there but didn't go so far as to show the IRA support - in fact he took his song out of a future compilation (2001's Wingspan) to make sure it didn't come across as him supporting the IRA.
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Post by HIStoric on Oct 12, 2020 12:42:51 GMT
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