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Post by MattyJam on Feb 2, 2019 18:51:02 GMT
Been appreciating Tabloid Junkie a lot lately. Isn’t it funny how there is such a divide between the albums the fanbase consider his best work and what the industry/critics choose to recognise? The HIStory album is simply too real for them to handle, which is why it is ignored. They don’t want to acknowledge that it is the most powerful, honest and autobiographical work of his career, because that would ultimately mean they were buying into his defense, which is essentially what three quarters of the album is. Wasn't it you who said that the HIStory album convinced you of his innocence after the 1993 case? Or something to that effect. That it is so emotionally raw, so real, so angry, so genuine. I agree with that point.
Yep, and I still think it makes for a powerful defense. I know it wouldn't stand up in a court of law or anything and I would never say this with a straight face to a hater, but I do think there's something to be said for the sincerity found in his music. Nobody is THAT angry unless they are falsely accused. Not just the album, but even his interviews at the time, particularly the Diane Sawyer one. I think it was LMP who said she didn't even need to ask if he was innocent, because he was like a dog with a bone. The Sawyer interview is the one and only time in his career where I felt like MJ did a really good job of defending himself and getting his point across. He never acted like a man who had gotten away with something, his outrage was palpable and I felt it ring true on an instinctive level. The fact that the evidence gathered in the subsequent years points strongly towards foul-play by the Chandlers/Arvizos/Wade just reinforces that I was right to trust my instincts with MJ. Sometimes in life, you just feel something in your gut, and it isn't tangible or logical, but often it can be trusted. Isn't that ultimately what Jury's do when they make their decision in the end? You go with your gut, unless the facts tell a different story. I think this is why so many fans have stuck by MJ through all of this, because his sincerity is utterly believable, unlike that of his accusers. |
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Post by aazzaabb on Feb 2, 2019 22:53:14 GMT
Been appreciating Tabloid Junkie a lot lately. Isn’t it funny how there is such a divide between the albums the fanbase consider his best work and what the industry/critics choose to recognise? The HIStory album is simply too real for them to handle, which is why it is ignored. They don’t want to acknowledge that it is the most powerful, honest and autobiographical work of his career, because that would ultimately mean they were buying into his defense, which is essentially what three quarters of the album is. Can I get an Amen over here for this comment about the HIStory album? We need to start a campaign to get the HIStory album back into the charts. It is the perfect statement for the current shit storm. |
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Post by respect77 on Feb 3, 2019 8:06:27 GMT
Wasn't it you who said that the HIStory album convinced you of his innocence after the 1993 case? Or something to that effect. That it is so emotionally raw, so real, so angry, so genuine. I agree with that point.
Yep, and I still think it makes for a powerful defense. I know it wouldn't stand up in a court of law or anything and I would never say this with a straight face to a hater, but I do think there's something to be said for the sincerity found in his music.
And here too.
Does this sound like a guy who considered sexual abuse "love"?
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Post by aazzaabb on Feb 3, 2019 12:00:58 GMT
Yep, and I still think it makes for a powerful defense. I know it wouldn't stand up in a court of law or anything and I would never say this with a straight face to a hater, but I do think there's something to be said for the sincerity found in his music. And here too. Does this sound like a guy who considered sexual abuse "love"?
In light of what’s been coming out about Hollywood recently, you have to wonder why exactly the “She’s only 15” lyrics were removed. Easy to say “because of the past allegations against MJ” but the entire song is an expose on Hollywood and that line really drives the message home. |
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Post by russtcb on Feb 3, 2019 16:15:13 GMT
Jam
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Post by aazzaabb on Feb 4, 2019 23:30:29 GMT
Tabloid Junkie. Mind blowingly good!
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Post by Thriller on Feb 6, 2019 0:03:14 GMT
Another Part Of Me. Although in the playlist I made sure to add Money and Scream. Two songs that are still relevant today... in one respect unfortunately so.
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Post by russtcb on Feb 6, 2019 13:59:18 GMT
Can You Feel It
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Post by MattyJam on Feb 6, 2019 19:42:20 GMT
Russ, did you ever check out the "Michael" album? |
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Post by russtcb on Feb 6, 2019 20:16:25 GMT
Russ, did you ever check out the "Michael" album? I never have gotten around to it. |
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Post by MattyJam on Feb 6, 2019 20:21:50 GMT
Russ, did you ever check out the "Michael" album? I never have gotten around to it. Can't believe you've never heard gems like Behind The Mask, Much Too Soon and Hollywood Tonight. You really need to listen to those songs, they're excellent. |
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Post by TonyR on Feb 6, 2019 21:05:06 GMT
Give In To Me
Whenever I hear this I think it may be his greatest moment.
And maybe his best secret (even though it got to #2 in U.K.)
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Post by MattyJam on Feb 6, 2019 21:16:33 GMT
Give In To Me Whenever I hear this I think it may be his greatest moment. And maybe his best secret (even though it got to #2 in U.K.) Aside from BorW and Heal The World, the Dangerous singles are largely forgotten about, aren't they? Even though songs like GITM and Remember The Time were top 5 hits at the time in the UK. I don't think the Dangerous singles did that well Stateside though, which maybe has something to do with why they are somewhat overlooked. |
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Post by TonyR on Feb 6, 2019 22:23:40 GMT
Give In To Me Whenever I hear this I think it may be his greatest moment. And maybe his best secret (even though it got to #2 in U.K.) Aside from BorW and Heal The World, the Dangerous singles are largely forgotten about, aren't they? Even though songs like GITM and Remember The Time were top 5 hits at the time in the UK. I don't think the Dangerous singles did that well Stateside though, which maybe has something to do with why they are somewhat overlooked. I think RTT gets its share. But there were 9 singles, I guess it’s hard to remember them all. Also doesn’t help when his own GH collection (Number Ones) had one song from that album. And he only did 4 songs on the tour to promote it. And he barely sung any song on TV appearances aside BoW or HTW. |
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Post by Vega on Feb 6, 2019 22:53:18 GMT
Give In To Me Whenever I hear this I think it may be his greatest moment. And maybe his best secret (even though it got to #2 in U.K.) Aside from BorW and Heal The World, the Dangerous singles are largely forgotten about, aren't they? Even though songs like GITM and Remember The Time were top 5 hits at the time in the UK. I don't think the Dangerous singles did that well Stateside though, which maybe has something to do with why they are somewhat overlooked. I wouldn't say Heal the World is that well remembered. Remember the Time and In The Closet get decent recognition. Will You Be There also because of the Free Willy connection. Bit too saccharine for my tastes though. |
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