The Moral Support Thread

Mass hysteria. I'm so sorry this is happening in your country.

SNL apparently made a joke about Michael during its "Weekend Update" segment last night. Don't know how many people still watch SNL, but I worry that the backlash is far from over.

I'm glad to know I'm not alone in how I feel about the whole situation

This past couple of weeks, I've been so disappointed in news outlets that I otherwise respected due to them jumping on the bandwagon. To see how the WILLFUL ignoring of facts and long established documents makes me feel we've living in Bizarro World

This whole "it's time to walk away from/it's hard to accept mj as/what should we do with MJ's music narrative going on is actually the most frustrating pandering thing I've ever seen.

So now I feel worse than before. I know I shouldn’t let the opinions of others get my goat, but a therapist at a local group I attend on a weekly basis said some truly abhorrent things about MJ today. He prefaced his opinion by saying he always thought MJ was guilty, but after watching both parts of the 4-hour movie and the Oprah interview, he said MJ was a “bad, bad man” who should “miserably rot in hell”. He said that there was no way Wade and James were lying and that the film was very well made, and that they were very convincing (along with the recommendation to watch the film if still dubitable about MJ’s “guilt”). He said that there was no way they would “spill their guts on TV” for money (as though the Me Too movement doesn’t champion all accusers and doesn’t quite literally elevate them to fame, without trying to sound like a victim blamer...). I have a strong feeling my brother is going to echo what this man said of MJ after seeing LN...

He thinks (the therapist) Michael was guilty due to “settling the first case” to “make it go away”. I explained to him over and over how it was only to settle the civil case (which would have exposed the defense strategy of MJ’s legal team - he fired back by saying it wouldn’t matter if MJ was innocent) and how the criminal investigation didn’t cease, but he kept on retorting by saying what I said didn’t make sense and that no innocent man would pay 20 million dollars to make a case “go away”, nor would an innocent man share a bed with a child with whom the star has no relation. Yawn. I must not have explained why MJ paid any money in the first case well, because he kept on reiterating the same BS. I tried to explain how sharing a bed does not equate to sex, and he laughed upon that statement. He bought the notion that Wade and James weren’t compensated for the film at all, and was rather incredulous about the chances of an appeal later this year. I also explained how the FBI investigated him for well over ten years and found nothing, and he shrugged that off as well. And I explained how Michael didn’t “pick the families”, the families “picked him”. He shook his head.

He also thought the film needed to be as graphic as it is for the accusers to “heal”, to “tell their whole story”. He said the chances of false accusations of child molestation are astronomically low (which may be true, but accusations of pedophilia aren’t), and that he’s interviewed dozens of kids who were truly molested. He likened the case of MJ settling to Kobe Bryant’s accuser settling for 8 million dollars or so, noting that the sheer incentive for financial compensation with respect to claims as grotesque as molestation is no more valid in that case than in MJ’s. He admitted at the end that it could be possible for someone to make up allegations such as these for the sake of money, but that they’d have to be pretty convoluted in the head and very psychotic. Doesn’t that just describe Wade Robson, at least to anyone who knows the truth about Wade Robson? The therapist also said that Wade only lied under oath, on the stand, in 2005. And that the dates provided in the movie corroborated them (quite the opposite). Pfft.

Needless to say, I won’t be returning to that group. I find it flabbergasting how easily people are buying into this biased propaganda. Dan Reed literally tries to normalize a prurient relationship between a man and a boy in the movie and in interviews - just like Victor Gutierrez. Am I wrong to want to defend MJ? Should I just let this go and accept that his reputation and legacy are permanently tarnished and that this is the public image of MJ that will indefinitely exist?  It grieves me to ask these questions. I’m not trying to entice anyone into giving up. I just don’t see any hope that this will ever be resolved.

The hardest to deal with are the abuse survivors who believe Wade/James because they relate to them. When someone is projecting their own experiences onto them, they take it as a personal attack not to believe them. My now-ex-FB friend basically said that she'd be scared to know me as a person because I don't believe Wade/James, as if that meant I wouldn't believe her if she told me she was raped/abused.

Which is what they prey on. The vulnerability of real abuse victims. They also used child abuse literature to build their story, Wade went to group sessions with abuse victims, so they are well prepared. Besides what they are doing to MJ this is another reason why it's extremely diabolical.

Reminds me of Tania Head, but she wasn't this evil because her lie of being a 9/11 survivor didn't involve slander. But she too was this poster child of 9/11 survivors because her story was so inspirational and had all the elements that real 9/11 survivors could relate to. She was made the leader of the 9/11 survivor group, she was hailed by politicians and the media for her bravery etc. And she was all fake.

As for Oprah, she believed the Satanic Ritual Abuse moral panic, so I wouldn't expect her to have any critical thinking.