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Post by MattyJam on Jan 27, 2019 22:58:52 GMT
Are you telling me that youโre cheating on my board with MJJC?? I mean not as quite as here like, but ya know....๐ Ouch. That was uncalled for. ๐คจ
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Post by aazzaabb on Jan 27, 2019 23:03:36 GMT
I'm nowhere near as knowledgeable and/or articulate as respect is but Gaz drove many of us apart and disrespected people out of petty reasons and temper tantrums. What's the point of going back there? I bet she feels similarly, I just feel sorry for the fans who are genuinlge interested in the cases, they lost the most. As for Matty agreeing with Tony Kremlin was being antisemitic, that's unfortunate. Too bad you didn't understand he was talking about the reporters who were posting negatively about Michael because of that fragmentary, not all the Jewish people. I think misunderstandings are inevitable at the moment as fan's are a little on edge right now. I think Matty was just a bit irked by Kremlin's comment which was a little bit bitchy to be fair also. Fan's become tired and emotional during times of injustice. As you and I both know. ๐
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Post by aazzaabb on Jan 27, 2019 23:12:11 GMT
I mean not as quite as here like, but ya know....๐ Ouch. That was uncalled for. ๐คจ I had to go too far didn't I?!! I had no regard for anyone's feelings, I was trying to be a smart ass and a show off but it back fired! I'm that guy in a bar who makes a bad joke and people leave and the bar closes early and everybody goes home! I fucked up and am deeply ashamed of this below the belt remark. My appologies to you and everyone here that I've let down.
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Post by aazzaabb on Jan 27, 2019 23:19:30 GMT
I've noticed a lot of guests on here at the moment. Please sign up guys. Would love some new members on here. I'm thinking of starting my own Little Cliquey Group.๐
Seriously though, if your an MJ fan reading this, sign the heck up.
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Post by MichaelD on Jan 27, 2019 23:56:03 GMT
Iโd say to send her the link to this site, but MJJC has the url to this site censored. Use bit.ly or that Google URL shorten tool to get around it. I think that worked for me ages ago. I tried it. My post was deleted within an hour, lol.
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Post by Snow White on Jan 27, 2019 23:59:10 GMT
And sending PMs is not a good idea either, they're read.
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Post by kremlinshadow on Jan 28, 2019 0:15:31 GMT
So this is where the little clique hang out then? Wasn't this board originally created to avoid such behaviours as on MJJC? I'm sorry you feel this way. Many of us on here have known eachother a long time and forged friendships/in-jokes etc. I do want this board to be all inclusive and I think it's unfair to call it cliquey. Seems more a case of you throwing toys out of the pram just because TonyR called you out on being anti-semetic. Yep that'll be it, you've got me there, big raving nazi over here. Joining dots is not anti-semetic, TonyR is quite obviously one of the drama queens of the board and was called out on his ''DRAMATIC'' (Capitals, in inverted commas) accusation and he shut his trap forthwith. The post sat there 4 hours and nobody but him found offence and he was corrected and backed down. In all seriousness though I graduated from a pram to a push-chair so I really have to correct you on that one, and it's so much easier to throw my toys further from. And in extreme seriousness my 'clique' comment had nothing to do with TonyR and me, it was his and someone's attitude to someone being upset and over 'drama', nothing at all to do with my interactions but it was something that reminded me of Gaz and clique over at MJJC.
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Post by kremlinshadow on Jan 28, 2019 0:17:56 GMT
I'm thinking of starting my own Little Cliquey Group.๐ My point proven MattyJam.
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Post by aazzaabb on Jan 28, 2019 1:05:37 GMT
I'm thinking of starting my own Little Cliquey Group.๐ My point proven MattyJam. I'm not sure what your getting at Kremlin? My comment above was a joke to lighten the mood. Surely that is quite clear. Are some of us part of a clique on here? I don't know, possibly? I'm a friend of Tony's for about 12 years now and although I know Matty for probably 5, 6 or 7 years we've only really become friends in the past maybe 2 year's. Possibly 3 as the years are flying by as I'm getting older. I know Innuendo a few years also. We're both from southern Ireland so I get his sense of humour. I consider everyone else I engage with on here as friends of equal standing. I possibly consider some people friends more so than they consider me a friend. I mean if you have a group of people who spend a vast amount of time chatting then a core group begins to form, but it's certainly not exclusive to only those people. There have been days and weeks on here when only these people and a few others have posted so until the board grows and more fans join in then it becomes less of a core group. Anyways, appologies to you and anyone else who feels excluded. Maybe put yourself out there a bit more, engage in a friendly manner and don't always take comments too seriously. Nobody here bites.
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Post by MattyJam on Jan 28, 2019 1:10:39 GMT
I'm sorry you feel this way. Many of us on here have known eachother a long time and forged friendships/in-jokes etc. I do want this board to be all inclusive and I think it's unfair to call it cliquey. Seems more a case of you throwing toys out of the pram just because TonyR called you out on being anti-semetic. Yep that'll be it, you've got me there, big raving nazi over here. Joining dots is not anti-semetic, TonyR is quite obviously one of the drama queens of the board and was called out on his ''DRAMATIC'' (Capitals, in inverted commas) accusation and he shut his trap forthwith. The post sat there 4 hours and nobody but him found offence and he was corrected and backed down. In all seriousness though I graduated from a pram to a push-chair so I really have to correct you on that one, and it's so much easier to throw my toys further from. And in extreme seriousness my 'clique' comment had nothing to do with TonyR and me, it was his and someone's attitude to someone being upset and over 'drama', nothing at all to do with my interactions but it was something that reminded me of Gaz and clique over at MJJC. To be fair, I wasnโt a part of the conversation and was only alerted to the offending remark after the fact. By itself it did look a bit anti-semetic, but I neither had the time or inclination to read it in context. Letโs move on. I think members need a thread like this to vent and I donโt want it to be derailed any further. Thanks.
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Post by Michaels Lover on Jan 28, 2019 1:38:23 GMT
I feel much better today than I did yesterday. But still sad though, and I still feel I need to talk to someone about it, like my mom and/or my therapist. I've been planning it out in my head, how I want to say it and explain it (assuming that they don't know anything about the documentary). But to be fair, I WAS super sad yesterday, and today I've felt much happier and I was so excited to watch MJ as like before this whole thing. It felt so good. My mom asked me today, on Skype, how I was doing, and I just said that I was sad. Didn't feel like writing a whole lot about it on there, I'd rather talk to her about in person when I see her tomorrow. I talk to or see my mom almost every day, but she always asks me how I'm doing when I feel sad without having said anything about it to her! I didn't even see her today, just talked to her on Skype, and it's like she knew!
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Post by aazzaabb on Jan 28, 2019 1:52:10 GMT
I feel much better today than I did yesterday. But still sad though, and I still feel I need to talk to someone about it, like my mom and/or my therapist. I've been planning it out in my head, how I want to say it and explain it (assuming that they don't know anything about the documentary). But to be fair, I WAS super sad yesterday, and today I've felt much happier and I was so excited to watch MJ as like before this whole thing. It felt so good. My mom asked me today, on Skype, how I was doing, and I just said that I was sad. Didn't feel like writing a whole lot about it on there, I'd rather talk to her about in person when I see her tomorrow. I talk to or see my mom almost every day, but she always asks me how I'm doing when I feel sad without having said anything about it to her! I didn't even see her today, just talked to her on Skype, and it's like she knew! It's good to talk. It will be ok and there will be light at the end of this dark tunnel. Sending you some love and positivity๐ You know when you filled that external hard drive with J5/MJ footage for me a few years ago? It made that year for me! I saw so much rear J5 footage that it blew my mind and lifted my soul. My Mother and one of my brothers watched a lot of it with me and young Michael in J5 blew them away. They were in stunned silence at how good he was. So thank you so much for doing that. Now, Did I ever tell you that I really like Dangerous? ๐
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Post by Michaels Lover on Jan 28, 2019 1:54:44 GMT
The hard thing for me is I'm reluctant to post much about Michael's innocence on my personal FB timeline as I don't want to trigger a good friend of mine who's an abuse survivor herself and pretty big into the whole "believe all victims, no matter what" movement. She's the kind of person who will call you out if she's offended by something, she's pretty SJW-ish. Luckily I haven't seen her post anything specifically about Michael, but she's posted a lot about R Kelly and believing alleged victims in general, so I'd be honestly shocked if she wouldn't take Wade and Safechuck's side. I want to support Michael, but I also don't wanna be startin' somethin'(see what I did there...) when I'm already in a rough patch, recovering from a heated debate with some friends over a completely different political issue and struggling with depression. I think that you should post about it on your FB if you want. After all, MJ's never been anything but innocent. So what do you have to loose? If your friend says anything about it, explain to her how it is and if necessary, show her respect77's documentary
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Post by Michaels Lover on Jan 28, 2019 2:07:29 GMT
I feel much better today than I did yesterday. But still sad though, and I still feel I need to talk to someone about it, like my mom and/or my therapist. I've been planning it out in my head, how I want to say it and explain it (assuming that they don't know anything about the documentary). But to be fair, I WAS super sad yesterday, and today I've felt much happier and I was so excited to watch MJ as like before this whole thing. It felt so good. My mom asked me today, on Skype, how I was doing, and I just said that I was sad. Didn't feel like writing a whole lot about it on there, I'd rather talk to her about in person when I see her tomorrow. I talk to or see my mom almost every day, but she always asks me how I'm doing when I feel sad without having said anything about it to her! I didn't even see her today, just talked to her on Skype, and it's like she knew! It's good to talk. It will be ok and there will be light at the end of this dark tunnel. Sending you some love and positivity๐ You know when you filled that external hard drive with J5/MJ footage for me a few years ago? It made that year for me! I saw so much rear J5 footage that it blew my mind and lifted my soul. My Mother and one of my brothers watched a lot of it with me and young Michael in J5 blew them away. They were in stunned silence at how good he was. So thank you so much for doing that. Now, Did I ever tell you that I really like Dangerous? ๐ aaww thanks. I'm so happy that it means so much to you and that you watched it with your family, really makes me happy!! I don't recall you ever telling me how much you like Dangerous?
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Post by kremlinshadow on Jan 28, 2019 10:30:54 GMT
My point proven MattyJam. Maybe put yourself out there a bit more, engage in a friendly manner and don't always take comments too seriously. Nobody here bites. I appreciate your reply, but I'm not here to make friends personally but to engage in conversation regarding MJ. But recently noticed a cliquey element towards others, not myself, where someone makes a comment and members of said clique all jump at the one person, replying in a condescending manner. I'm not concerned about myself, I don't feel left out or a need to join a clique. I'm perfectly capable of defending myself and putting my point across, and me pointing out to you, ridiculing my statement of a clique is exactly my point in hand.
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