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Post by elusivemoonwalker on Oct 21, 2020 19:27:07 GMT
You know we shouldnt be surprised but it never ceases to amaze me how the media are so desperate to attack mj. Now we have the damage control articles about reeds sub.. inorder to divert from todays ruling. Really what is the obsession. Did they really make so much money off L.N .it certainly got no viewers but was sold to enough countries.they have this complete obsession with trying to attack mj. I refuse to believe they dont think they could make money and get big ratings by airing something like square one. But they are obsessed with vilafying him.why.race? A hatred cause he refused to conform to what they expected of him.to cover all the real abusers in the media.what? Because the facts are out there if they were intrested in reading them. Cause even though the ruling is great its just so tiring when we are constantly having to deal with these arseholes
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Post by elusivemoonwalker on Oct 21, 2020 20:10:11 GMT
So sh1tchuck case was thrown out based on the duty of care?. Him been or not been hired by the companies didn't even come into the ruling? So if thats correct? Then theres only one way robsons case is going aswell as it makes no difference that he was hired as the companies didn't have a duty of care to him?
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Post by respect77 on Oct 21, 2020 20:57:32 GMT
So sh1tchuck case was thrown out based on the duty of care?. Him been or not been hired by the companies didn't even come into the ruling? So if thats correct? Then theres only one way robsons case is going aswell as it makes no difference that he was hired as the companies didn't have a duty of care to him? Yes, I think based on the Safechuck ruling Robson's case too should be dismissed.
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Post by elusivemoonwalker on Oct 21, 2020 21:01:01 GMT
Thanks respect. So in reality this new law hasnt really changed anything interms of the rulings? Its just dragged it out again
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Post by respect77 on Oct 22, 2020 4:16:44 GMT
Safechuck's Instagram is back so I guess it was really that fans reported him. And quickly he posted a photo of his son for emotional effect. LOL. He hasn't posted since July before this.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2020 6:28:20 GMT
So sh1tchuck case was thrown out based on the duty of care?. Him been or not been hired by the companies didn't even come into the ruling? So if thats correct? Then theres only one way robsons case is going aswell as it makes no difference that he was hired as the companies didn't have a duty of care to him? Yes, I think based on the Safechuck ruling Robson's case too should be dismissed. I honestly think it's only a matter of time before a "well respected" journalist picks up on the inconsistencies at play here. I don't think that the fact that Reed is trying to film a follow up will sit well with everyone in the "I believe them" camp. We saw with the MJ documentary on that UK Channel (cant remember which one) after LN, and people just weren't interested. LN was a perfect storm, perfect timing etc. Those articles I read yesterday were damage control for Dan Reed, NOT the "victims" which to me, spoke volumes. Sooner or later this will become more about protecting Reed's artistic and professional integrity. Why would he fight having to testify? If he is so confident in his friends, would he not be happy to assist with their cases? There are so many variables now for someone to latch onto and just go "... Wait a second, I thought...." and for the whole circus to become more and more exposed. Reed might also have finally realised that Finaldi fits the character of the kind of lawyer that "respected" journalists like himself shouldn't really be associated with. The guy is an ambulance chaser, and on top of that he has done nothing but show himself up as completely incompetent for the kind of task he has at hand. It's also now 100% apparent that LN was a vehicle to sway public opinion, with the hope of swaying legal. The accusers suffered a massive defeat Tuesday, but Finaldi could fall back on a lie BECAUSE this was how it came across in LN. It doesn't matter if it's true or not. It doesn't matter that legal doesn't line up with TV. When the next thing for Finaldi to complain about comes about, he will sit back and reference something that was part of the LN plot, and save face in the media by pushing the agenda that what the public knows after having seen LN is what they are fighting for in the court - when we all know this is complete bollocks. Judging by how the accusers legal challenges have gone to date, I would actually love to see the lawyers of the Estate get one on one with all involved. Cameras rolling.
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Post by respect77 on Oct 22, 2020 10:29:47 GMT
"Sooner or later this will become more about protecting Reed's artistic and professional integrity."
I think LN2 is about that. If Dan Reed was truly an unbiased documentary maker he would be able to let go. Instead this became personal and obsessive for him and Channel 4. A truly unbiased documentary maker wouldn't take it on himself to try to explain away Safechuck's "inconsistencies" (ie. lies). He would just say that's up to James to explain and would keep his distance. That's how you protect your integrity as a documentary maker, not by getting this much personally involved in the whole thing, and becoming almost vindictive because some people don't think you did a great and fair job.
It's like with Dimond and Sneddon and all those people. After they fail in trying to destroy MJ, in a twisted way they become vindictive and more hell bent on destroying him. Which ironically shows that they didn't succeed in destroying him.
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Post by elusivemoonwalker on Oct 22, 2020 12:00:56 GMT
Mike certainly does something to people🤪🤑
Its all or nothing for him now. Hes gone to far. Whats he gonna do say whoops i was duped by those two. Not gonna happen.he will fight until the ship goes down and blame anyone but himself. He better hope robsons case is thrown out before the estate gets their hands on his footage etc.he might see himself in a doc he wasnt expecting!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2020 12:19:16 GMT
"Sooner or later this will become more about protecting Reed's artistic and professional integrity." I think LN2 is about that. If Dan Reed was truly an unbiased documentary maker he would be able to let go. Instead this became personal and obsessive for him and Channel 4. A truly unbiased documentary maker wouldn't take it on himself to try to explain away Safechuck's "inconsistencies" (ie. lies). He would just say that's up to James to explain and would keep his distance. That's how you protect your integrity as a documentary maker, not by getting this much personally involved in the whole thing, and becoming almost vindictive because some people don't think you did a great and fair job. It's like with Dimond and Sneddon and all those people. After they fail in trying to destroy MJ, in a twisted way they become vindictive and more hell bent on destroying him. Which ironically shows that they didn't succeed in destroying him. Also - "This isn't about Michael Jackson".
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Post by elusivemoonwalker on Oct 23, 2020 7:12:45 GMT
Is there anywhere seperate from reading the whole ruling where i can see the quotes from the judge where he calls out the inconsistencies ,false testimony and intent to extort of sh1tchuck
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Post by ghost on Oct 23, 2020 7:18:10 GMT
Mike certainly does something to people🤪🤑 Its all or nothing for him now. Hes gone to far. Whats he gonna do say whoops i was duped by those two. Not gonna happen.he will fight until the ship goes down and blame anyone but himself. He better hope robsons case is thrown out before the estate gets their hands on his footage etc.he might see himself in a doc he wasnt expecting! What footage are you referring to?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2020 7:24:15 GMT
Mike certainly does something to people🤪🤑 Its all or nothing for him now. Hes gone to far. Whats he gonna do say whoops i was duped by those two. Not gonna happen.he will fight until the ship goes down and blame anyone but himself. He better hope robsons case is thrown out before the estate gets their hands on his footage etc.he might see himself in a doc he wasnt expecting! What footage are you referring to? He said he had to do re-shoots because Wade was "robotic" or something similar. I mean, that's a pretty huge fucking red flag to me regarding a "factual" documentary! That's admitting it was a performance!
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Post by respect77 on Oct 23, 2020 7:59:36 GMT
Is there anywhere seperate from reading the whole ruling where i can see the quotes from the judge where he calls out the inconsistencies ,false testimony and intent to extort of sh1tchuck This is the ruling. t.co/PdgRn7umdK?amp=1It's a demurrer ruling, it's not going to call out inconsistency, false testimony and extortion. Demurrer is not about the truthfulness of the allegations (in fact, on demurrer the allegations have to be treated as fact), it's about the application of law.
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Post by elusivemoonwalker on Oct 23, 2020 14:23:21 GMT
Thanks respect
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2020 14:15:42 GMT
Nice little piece.
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