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Post by Snow White on Jan 20, 2019 3:56:28 GMT
I hope it reaches as far wide as possible, I think it's the most effective way by fans to put the truth at people's disposal to expose Robson as the money-grabbing liar he is if the media are unwilling to be truthful. The general public are not reading MJ truth threads on twitter, unfortunately. When was the video uploaded? 2 days ago? It already has more than 20k views, I don't think all those visits come from MJ fans.
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Post by Vega on Jan 20, 2019 7:53:16 GMT
The general public are not reading MJ truth threads on twitter, unfortunately. When was the video uploaded? 2 days ago? It already has more than 20k views, I don't think all those visits come from MJ fans. Eh, most of those views are from people already in the MJ sphere whether fans or haters. It's not reaching the general public, but that's definitely not to take anything away from it's greatness. Nothing can take the place of a well funded, vetted documentary breaking down MJ's innocence. Ideally directed by a big name like Spike Lee or someone with clout in the community.
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Post by respect77 on Jan 20, 2019 8:58:20 GMT
When was the video uploaded? 2 days ago? It already has more than 20k views, I don't think all those visits come from MJ fans. Eh, most of those views are from people already in the MJ sphere whether fans or haters. It's not reaching the general public, but that's definitely not to take anything away from it's greatness. Nothing can take the place of a well funded, vetted documentary breaking down MJ's innocence. Ideally directed by a big name like Spike Lee or someone with clout in the community. But you know that will never happen. It's much easier to sell any trash about MJ than a well researched documentaries. Just look at how this played out! We have two losers with serious credibility issues and they are getting their four hours "documentary" on "respectable" HBO, no less! It's just that easy to get media exposure when you want to sell crap about MJ. The truth on the other hand... we are almost 30 years after the Chandlers and I am yet to read an honest, well-researched breakdown of that case. The media just still throws about fallacies like the settlement proves guilt (the media never talks about the legal context of this settlement that would show that contention is just not true) or that Jordan correctly described MJ's penis (not true) or that he had child porn (not true) or that the FBI had evidence of him paying off 20 boys (not true). I mean the other day I had someone the "child porn" story from 2016 thrown at me, citing The Independent. People think it is credible info because it is in "respectable" papers such as the Independent. They don't realize that their "respectable" paper used Radar Online as a source... And everything is like this when it comes to MJ. "Respectable" papers become tabloids when it comes to him. The Independent, the Telepgraph, the Guardian are just absolutely full of venom and malice when it comes to him. I have seen plenty of articles in those papers talking about him in a totally disrespectful, dehumanizing way, full of hate and venom. It's not just tabloids. That's why I am not phased these days by the mainstream media's crying about the dangers of fake news on social media. As if they haven't been complicit in spreading fake news themselves. Gimme a break. For some reason the media seems to have a vested interest in creating this image of a monster about MJ. I don't know why that is. But we have seen people, including Mesereau talk about how incredibly difficult it is to put out exonerating info about him in the media. They wanted even Mez to turn on him. That's how they would have published a book by him. I don't think there has been any other celebrity treated this unfairly by the media. I don't know why, but it's madness at this point. I always say MJ became this huge not because of the media, but despite of them. Maybe that's why they hate him.
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Jan 20, 2019 14:10:35 GMT
The general public are not reading MJ truth threads on twitter, unfortunately. When was the video uploaded? 2 days ago? It already has more than 20k views, I don't think all those visits come from MJ fans. Yeah, most of the people who watched that were already interested in MJ enough to actually sit through the video. The documentary will be watched by a lot more people and they will be much more gullible.
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Jan 20, 2019 16:20:46 GMT
Very cool tweet sundance
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 17:15:40 GMT
They got the responses they want I see
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Post by kaeleah on Jan 20, 2019 23:04:47 GMT
The thing that gets to me is why is it 4 hours long? Very long movies always scream self-indulgence. How in the world are they gonna stretch out these false allegations to justify the Gone With The Wind/Titanic runtime?!
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Jan 20, 2019 23:11:25 GMT
The thing that gets to me is why is it 4 hours long? Very long movies always scream self-indulgence. How in the world are they gonna stretch out these false allegations to justify the Gone With The Wind/Titanic runtime?! They're gonna talk about all of the allegations. So expect two hours of fbi files and child porn bullshit.
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Jan 20, 2019 23:57:13 GMT
I've seen people saying that hundreds of votes keep getting deleted from that petition and that someone is doing it on purpose so it doesn't reach it's next goal. Lol.
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Post by Vega on Jan 21, 2019 0:34:11 GMT
The thing that gets to me is why is it 4 hours long? Very long movies always scream self-indulgence. How in the world are they gonna stretch out these false allegations to justify the Gone With The Wind/Titanic runtime?! Surviving R Kelly was 5 hours broken into 48-53 minute increments, for what it's worth.
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Post by aazzaabb on Jan 21, 2019 0:49:52 GMT
I've seen people saying that hundreds of votes keep getting deleted from that petition and that someone is doing it on purpose so it doesn't reach it's next goal. Lol. See this is what I can’t stand. This personal vendetta to tear down MJ. I don’t think the media will give a damn about the fact that Wade and Safechuck are liers. The truth has never bothered them before and it won’t now. I’d love to be wrong but I have no faith in the tabloid press.
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Post by aazzaabb on Jan 21, 2019 1:02:43 GMT
Eh, most of those views are from people already in the MJ sphere whether fans or haters. It's not reaching the general public, but that's definitely not to take anything away from it's greatness. Nothing can take the place of a well funded, vetted documentary breaking down MJ's innocence. Ideally directed by a big name like Spike Lee or someone with clout in the community. But you know that will never happen. It's much easier to sell any trash about MJ than a well researched documentaries. Just look at how this played out! We have two losers with serious credibility issues and they are getting their four hours "documentary" on "respectable" HBO, no less! It's just that easy to get media exposure when you want to sell crap about MJ. The truth on the other hand... we are almost 30 years after the Chandlers and I am yet to read an honest, well-researched breakdown of that case. The media just still throws about fallacies like the settlement proves guilt (the media never talks about the legal context of this settlement that would show that contention is just not true) or that Jordan correctly described MJ's penis (not true) or that he had child porn (not true) or that the FBI had evidence of him paying off 20 boys (not true). I mean the other day I had someone the "child porn" story from 2016 thrown at me, citing The Independent. People think it is credible info because it is in "respectable" papers such as the Independent. They don't realize that their "respectable" paper used Radar Online as a source... And everything is like this when it comes to MJ. "Respectable" papers become tabloids when it comes to him. The Independent, the Telepgraph, the Guardian are just absolutely full of venom and malice when it comes to him. I have seen plenty of articles in those papers talking about him in a totally disrespectful, dehumanizing way, full of hate and venom. It's not just tabloids. That's why I am not phased these days by the mainstream media's crying about the dangers of fake news on social media. As if they haven't been complicit in spreading fake news themselves. Gimme a break. For some reason the media seems to have a vested interest in creating this image of a monster about MJ. I don't know why that is. But we have seen people, including Mesereau talk about how incredibly difficult it is to put out exonerating info about him in the media. They wanted even Mez to turn on him. That's how they would have published a book by him. I don't think there has been any other celebrity treated this unfairly by the media. I don't know why, but it's madness at this point. I always say MJ became this huge not because of the media, but despite of them. Maybe that's why they hate him. I wonder if we will live to see MJ’s name fully cleared of all of these years of allegations and nonsense thrown at him? I really wish the Chandler kid -now a grown man- would speak out. It would be such a help and it was his fathers doing after all. Can you believe one mans greed for money ruined an artist the size of MJ‘s life?! I really feel these original allegations in 93 is why he ended up dead in 09.
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Post by Snow White on Jan 21, 2019 1:05:35 GMT
I've seen people saying that hundreds of votes keep getting deleted from that petition and that someone is doing it on purpose so it doesn't reach it's next goal. Lol. I read some signatures are not counted because users put invalid e-mail addresses or use bots to sign. I'm not certain if this is the case though.
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Post by respect77 on Jan 21, 2019 4:37:35 GMT
I wonder if we will live to see MJ’s name fully cleared of all of these years of allegations and nonsense thrown at him? I really wish the Chandler kid -now a grown man- would speak out. It would be such a help and it was his fathers doing after all. Can you believe one mans greed for money ruined an artist the size of MJ‘s life?! I really feel these original allegations in 93 is why he ended up dead in 09. I am losing hope, to be honest. I even naively hoped after his death that Jordan would come out one day and tell the truth. Instead we have two other money-grabbers jumping on the bandwagon. What is being done to Michael makes me lose hope in humankind. The evil & greed (Robson and Safechuck, and parts of the media who deliberately make up false, slanderous articles), the laziness and stupidity (other parts of the media, who just copy&paste crap from the "evil media" without vetting the information and a large portion of the public which just eats up anything uncritically that is fed to them). I also start to believe there is a vested intertest in the desctruction of MJ's legacy. I know that sounds conspiracy-like, but how else do we explain the media's incredibly unfair treatment to this man? Like truth doesn't even matter. They create a complete alternative "reality" around him. With child porn, 20 paid off kids and things like that. And people keep citing these provably false things as fact because their media told them so. People are incredibly easy to manipulate. The question is, though, why the media is so hell-bent on creating this alternative "reality" around MJ? I have never seen any other celeberity being treated THIS unfairly. MJ isn't even human to them. He is fair game to slander with no evidence, to lie about with no evidence. And not just tabloids. And not just because he is dead. It's been going on since forever. Maureen Orth could go to a "respectable" magazine like Vanity Fair and write an article about MJ, littered with Victor Gutierrez's fantasies and claims of MJ killing cows on the Swiss border in a voodoo sacrifice ritual and bathing in their blood. That was in a Vanity Fucking Fair article! And people believed it. And people didn't bat an eyelid about how this crap belongs to the National Enquirer at best. Just anything goes when it comes to this man. It's maddening. I just wish one day some media analyist with guts will expose this whole thing and what was done Michael Jackson at the hands of the media. He is a victim of a modern day witch hunt. And yes, I think at this point Jordan coming out would be the only thing that could make people stop and think "Wait a minute. So maybe these allegations are false after all." He could make people doubt all the other accusers as well, especially because they all so build on his story. Safechuck even uses crap from his story verbatim, like the claim that MJ called semen "duck butter". If Jordan came out to tell the truth that would immediately collapse Safechuck's and Robson's cases as well. But the chance of Jordan telling the truth is very slim. He is Evan and June's son. Why would he have a conscience? At this point I feel it will just remain the little "secret" of a select few (those who are actually willing to research and study these cases, court docs etc.) that this man was totally innocent, while the rest of the world will continue to live in this "matrix" that the media has created for them with child porn, 20 paid off victims and false accusers.
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Post by kremlinshadow on Jan 21, 2019 5:13:27 GMT
I've seen people saying that hundreds of votes keep getting deleted from that petition and that someone is doing it on purpose so it doesn't reach it's next goal. Lol. See this is what I can’t stand. This personal vendetta to tear down MJ. I don’t think the media will give a damn about the fact that Wade and Safechuck are liers. The truth has never bothered them before and it won’t now. I’d love to be wrong but I have no faith in the tabloid press. It's a ready made page-filler, they wont give a care for anyone involved.
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