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Post by Vega on Jan 21, 2019 5:34:52 GMT
I wonder if we will live to see MJ’s name fully cleared of all of these years of allegations and nonsense thrown at him? I really wish the Chandler kid -now a grown man- would speak out. It would be such a help and it was his fathers doing after all. Can you believe one mans greed for money ruined an artist the size of MJ‘s life?! I really feel these original allegations in 93 is why he ended up dead in 09. I am losing hope, to be honest. I even naively hoped after his death that Jordan would come out one day and tell the truth. Instead we have two other money-grabbers jumping on the bandwagon. What is being done to Michael makes me lose hope in humankind. The evil & greed (Robson and Safechuck, and parts of the media who deliberately make up false, slanderous articles), the laziness and stupidity (other parts of the media, who just copy&paste crap from the "evil media" without vetting the information and a large portion of the public which just eats up anything uncritically that is fed to them). I also start to believe there is a vested intertest in the desctruction of MJ's legacy. I know that sounds conspiracy-like, but how else do we explain the media's incredibly unfair treatment to this man? Like truth doesn't even matter. They create a complete alternative "reality" around him. With child porn, 20 paid off kids and things like that. And people keep citing these provably false things as fact because their media told them so. People are incredibly easy to manipulate. The question is, though, why the media is so hell-bent on creating this alternative "reality" around MJ? I have never seen any other celeberity being treated THIS unfairly. MJ isn't even human to them. He is fair game to slander with no evidence, to lie about with no evidence. And not just tabloids. And not just because he is dead. It's been going on since forever. Maureen Orth could go to a "respectable" magazine like Vanity Fair and write an article about MJ, littered with Victor Gutierrez's fantasies and claims of MJ killing cows on the Swiss border in a voodoo sacrifice ritual and bathing in their blood. That was in a Vanity Fucking Fair article! And people believed it. And people didn't bat an eyelid about how this crap belongs to the National Enquirer at best. Just anything goes when it comes to this man. It's maddening. I just wish one day some media analyist with guts will expose this whole thing and what was done Michael Jackson at the hands of the media. He is a victim of a modern day witch hunt. And yes, I think at this point Jordan coming out would be the only thing that could make people stop and think "Wait a minute. So maybe these allegations are false after all." He could make people doubt all the other accusers as well, especially because they all so build on his story. Safechuck even uses crap from his story verbatim, like the claim that MJ called semen "duck butter". If Jordan came out to tell the truth that would immediately collapse Safechuck's and Robson's cases as well. But the chance of Jordan telling the truth is very slim. He is Evan and June's son. Why would he have a conscience? At this point I feel it will just remain the little "secret" of a select few (those who are actually willing to research and study these cases, court docs etc.) that this man was totally innocent, while the rest of the world will continue to live in this "matrix" that the media has created for them with child porn, 20 paid off victims and false accusers. I think it's a bit harsh to slam a kid who was forced to cope with a radically changed existence as a result of his father being a slimeball. You know that people are dying to talk to him, and I'm sure the people behind Leaving Neverland were banging down doors to talk to him - but he's made himself scarce and he sees no reason to change that. It would be great if he could set the record straight, but I doubt he wants to expose himself to the boundless scrutiny he would undoubtedly receive.
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Post by respect77 on Jan 21, 2019 5:54:26 GMT
He's a 37-year-old man, not a kid.
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Post by kremlinshadow on Jan 21, 2019 11:54:01 GMT
He's a 37-year-old man, not a kid. I Think we're dealing with something a whole lot bigger than Jordy Chandler here. I think he (MJ) probably rubbed someone up the wrong way within the Hollywood network of paedophiles while trying to save children from these vile perpetrators , Corey Feldman kind of hit on it in recent interviews where he stated that police were not interested in the real names of people. I was reading about this on many sites last night going from a story about the Robson/Safechuck documentary, and it goes from up high through media and politicians and law enforcement and if anyone gets in their way they are basically disposed of in one way or another. I don't know how reliable this site is for unbiased journalism but it's an interesting/disturbing read none the less. Investigator Uncovers International Pedophile Ring, Protected by Police and Intelligence Agencies
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 12:14:14 GMT
Anyone seen that new article on The Scum?
They plan on appealing/re launching their cases.
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Post by respect77 on Jan 21, 2019 12:18:31 GMT
Anyone seen that new article on The Scum? They plan on appealing/re launching their cases. The case is still under appeal.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 12:19:43 GMT
Anyone seen that new article on The Scum? They plan on appealing/re launching their cases. The case is still under appeal. Ah. I just read Robson never knew the MJ estate existed leading to his delayed reporting? Am.....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 12:49:31 GMT
Ok, so in those testimony scripts, would Robson and the other guy have needed to put forth ALL their evidence backing their claims, or would some be held back for a court case?
Basically what I'm asking is, can we be presented with some "surprises" after this airs, or would anything need to have been shared during these hearings?
To be honest, that Sun article journalist didn't even seen convinced or swayed with what he/she was writing. Just another days work.
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Post by respect77 on Jan 21, 2019 12:52:03 GMT
The case is still under appeal. Ah. I just read Robson never knew the MJ estate existed leading to his delayed reporting? Am..... Yeah. To clarify the last sentence: they never appealed the Probate Court ruling. They did appeal the civil lawsuit ruling regarding the companies and that appeal process is what is still going on.
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Jan 21, 2019 13:03:31 GMT
Seeing as Wade's family are in the doc I'm assuming they're gonna throw MJ under the bus as well.
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Post by respect77 on Jan 21, 2019 13:37:43 GMT
Seeing as Wade's family are in the doc I'm assuming they're gonna throw MJ under the bus as well. Yes, they support Wade. To be fair, I think Wade is lying to them as well, though I wonder if Joy really believes it or deep down she knows her son is lying and she just goes along with it.
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Jan 21, 2019 19:41:37 GMT
Seeing as Wade's family are in the doc I'm assuming they're gonna throw MJ under the bus as well. Yes, they support Wade. To be fair, I think Wade is lying to them as well, though I wonder if Joy really believes it or deep down she knows her son is lying and she just goes along with it. I mean it's obvious he's lying. It's kind of a joke that he's getting anywhere with this at all so I assume she's just not willing to accept he's lying.
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Jan 21, 2019 22:16:58 GMT
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Post by Snow White on Jan 21, 2019 22:49:59 GMT
Yes, they support Wade. To be fair, I think Wade is lying to them as well, though I wonder if Joy really believes it or deep down she knows her son is lying and she just goes along with it. I mean it's obvious he's lying. It's kind of a joke that he's getting anywhere with this at all so I assume she's just not willing to accept he's lying. Deep down she knows he's lying. I mean, she exposed her son's lies when Joy was deposed in 2016 but I guess she wouldn't dare to tell him or it's more comfortable to her to go along with him.
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Post by respect77 on Jan 22, 2019 4:22:45 GMT
When asked in her deposition if she read Wade's lawsuit, Joy answered no, because it wasn't her business. That stroke me as an odd answer, considering that Wade claims he's been regularly sexually abused under her watch. How would you not feel it's your business, as a mother?
What I think is Joy deliberately avoids it, because deep down she suspects it could shake her faith in her son's honesty. Let's be real, Wade's complain contains a lot of allegations that Joy just KNOWS to be untrue.
She probably wants to be in blissful ignorance about her son's dishonesty and in denial about the possibility of her son (and not Michael) being the monster here. Also she probably figured not believing him would make her lose him.
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Post by respect77 on Jan 22, 2019 4:34:00 GMT
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