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Post by TonyR on Oct 5, 2019 18:11:15 GMT
Sorry for taking this thread off topic. Obviously we'd all rather be discussing Michael's legacy being torn apart Matty - being Jewish obviously a lot of what Triumph says offends me, but then being human most of what comes out of his keyboard offends me, but almost in a humorous way as he seems to be against everyone in the world so I don't really take it personally. I just want it called out when seen. Not necessarily by you but others (which many have done here, thanks). It's not normal to be so full of hatred & vitriol against other people. Phrases like big-lipped, -Stein, sperm bucket, cheesecake eating housewives is not okay, as funny as they sometimes are. I'm no snowflake by any means as anyone who knows me (in real life or online) will testify. I'm very much with Ricky Gervais who says 'Just because you're offended, it doesn't mean you're right'. But that doesn't include racism & misogyny. It should be called out when it's repeated behaviour. Kick me, Kike me and all that.
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Post by MattyJam on Oct 6, 2019 8:41:18 GMT
Free speech is often misunderstood tbh. You can say what you want but don't act like being banned from a site owned by someone else for being racist is somehow being suppressed. All I'll say on the matter is that saying "I don't want to suppress free speech" when it comes to people being racist and other stuff like that is creating a safe space for people that think that talk like that is legitimate and actually has a place. Fair point. But at the same time, just because someone shouts "racist" , it doesn't automatically mean they're right! Sure, Triumph has some strange ideas, and from what I can tell in this thread, he is definitely guilty of racial stereotyping, but that's on him. Triumph is a difficult person to moderate as he seems to always skirt on the edge of what is deemed socially acceptable behaviour, but as I see it, he hasn't in this thread said anything which I deem to be worthy of any moderating on my part. Him pointing out that a lot of the snakes in MJs life were Jewish is not racist in and of itself. The fact that he chooses to be selective in highlighting the Jewish people, but not the many non-Jewish folks who were equally as shady in MJs inner circle is definitely problematic and not a good look, but again, I don't think it is out and out racism. I do not wish to create a safe space for racial hatred and I don't believe that is what I'm doing. Triumph has been reprimanded in the past and will be again if required. But free speech exists for everyone, including people with opinions you find offensive. I'm not in the business of shutting down peoples opinions just because I find them abhorrent. Some people think it's abhorrent that we defend Michael Jackson and brand his accusers liars. It doesn't mean these people are right and it doesn't give them the right to silence our opinion either.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2019 13:47:31 GMT
Free speech is often misunderstood tbh. You can say what you want but don't act like being banned from a site owned by someone else for being racist is somehow being suppressed. All I'll say on the matter is that saying "I don't want to suppress free speech" when it comes to people being racist and other stuff like that is creating a safe space for people that think that talk like that is legitimate and actually has a place. Fair point. But at the same time, just because someone shouts "racist" , it doesn't automatically mean they're right! Sure, Triumph has some strange ideas, and from what I can tell in this thread, he is definitely guilty of racial stereotyping, but that's on him. Triumph is a difficult person to moderate as he seems to always skirt on the edge of what is deemed socially acceptable behaviour, but as I see it, he hasn't in this thread said anything which I deem to be worthy of any moderating on my part. Him pointing out that a lot of the snakes in MJs life were Jewish is not racist in and of itself. The fact that he chooses to be selective in highlighting the Jewish people, but not the many non-Jewish folks who were equally as shady in MJs inner circle is definitely problematic and not a good look, but again, I don't think it is out and out racism. I do not wish to create a safe space for racial hatred and I don't believe that is what I'm doing. Triumph has been reprimanded in the past and will be again if required. But free speech exists for everyone, including people with opinions you find offensive. I'm not in the business of shutting down peoples opinions just because I find them abhorrent. Some people think it's abhorrent that we defend Michael Jackson and brand his accusers liars. It doesn't mean these people are right and it doesn't give them the right to silence our opinion either. Well said Mein Fuhrer
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Post by respect77 on Oct 7, 2019 6:25:49 GMT
LMAO, it didn't last long.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 7:46:05 GMT
LMAO, it didn't last long. This actually made me smile.
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Post by respect77 on Oct 8, 2019 4:40:48 GMT
LOL, haters are pressed.
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Post by Snow White on Oct 8, 2019 4:51:36 GMT
The obsessed sickos are pressed the doc proves Michael's innocence. People in their right mind would be relieved no child was ever harmed but not the guilty cult. They wish the alleged abuses took place.
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Post by WildStyle on Oct 8, 2019 4:56:52 GMT
Half of them are probably NAMBLA members.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 11:44:25 GMT
LMAO, it didn't last long. Looks like it's in this ridiculously over priced new box set too!
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Post by Russg on Oct 8, 2019 12:52:11 GMT
Debbie Rowe - (Not of Jewish descent, but adopted and raised by a Jewish couple and a practicing Jew - Rothstein real name) Marc Schaffel - Very dodgy manager and once made gay porn rip off of a James Bond movie and then tried to marry the above woman. Weren't Debbie and Schaffel banging at one point? I'm sure Debbies's huge pig nostrils (visible via satellite) have ample space for Schaffel's tiny dick. Can you imagine the sight of Schaffel nutting in her bareback?? Vom.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 12:58:34 GMT
Debbie Rowe - (Not of Jewish descent, but adopted and raised by a Jewish couple and a practicing Jew - Rothstein real name) Marc Schaffel - Very dodgy manager and once made gay porn rip off of a James Bond movie and then tried to marry the above woman. Weren't Debbie and Schaffel banging at one point? I'm sure Debbies's huge pig nostrils (visible via satellite) have ample space for Schaffel's tiny dick. Can you imagine the sight of Schaffel nutting in her bareback?? Vom. This reminds me, please write the next chapter of your fan fic....
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Post by TonyR on Oct 8, 2019 18:49:38 GMT
Debbie Rowe - (Not of Jewish descent, but adopted and raised by a Jewish couple and a practicing Jew - Rothstein real name) Marc Schaffel - Very dodgy manager and once made gay porn rip off of a James Bond movie and then tried to marry the above woman. Weren't Debbie and Schaffel banging at one point? I'm sure Debbies's huge pig nostrils (visible via satellite) have ample space for Schaffel's tiny dick. Can you imagine the sight of Schaffel nutting in her bareback?? Vom. Oscar Wilde is alive and well folks.
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Post by MattyJam on Oct 8, 2019 20:53:39 GMT
Weren't Debbie and Schaffel banging at one point? I'm sure Debbies's huge pig nostrils (visible via satellite) have ample space for Schaffel's tiny dick. Can you imagine the sight of Schaffel nutting in her bareback?? Vom. Oscar Wilde is alive and well folks. He paints quite the picture, doesn't he?
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Post by WildStyle on Oct 9, 2019 0:51:56 GMT
I'm going to be that guy. You're talking about the mother of Prince and Paris. Have some respect.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2019 2:16:07 GMT
Half of them are probably NAMBLA members. You mean the North American Marlon Brando Lookalike Association led by Dr Mephisto?
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