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Post by respect77 on Oct 9, 2019 2:59:02 GMT
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Post by jaywonder on Oct 9, 2019 4:23:21 GMT
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Post by respect77 on Oct 10, 2019 3:07:15 GMT
This shows how unhinged haters are. Read the whole thread. They are threatening to report this fan to her employer to make her lose her job. For defending MJ.
I know they did this to a person on VMJ as well and in her case she actually had to defend herself in front of a committee at her workplace.
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Post by respect77 on Oct 10, 2019 3:22:22 GMT
So Louis Theroux is getting his info from VG's book. Explains a lot. This with his association with Savile isn't a good look for him. Thread:
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Post by Snow White on Oct 10, 2019 4:57:53 GMT
This shows how unhinged haters are. Read the whole thread. They are threatening to report this fan to her employer to make her lose her job. For defending MJ. I know they did this to a person on VMJ as well and in her case she actually had to defend herself in front of a committee at her workplace. Glad I've blocked their asses and that I haven't put much of my real life information online. Good to know they failed miserably on making Jennifer loose her job though. MJ sure attracted the most hideous and psychotic haters. They deserve to be jailed at least. As for Theroux, I don't know how he hasn't lost his career and reputation for his association with Saville Alone, he's the least indicated to condemn and pedal guilty agendas
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Post by respect77 on Oct 11, 2019 6:07:30 GMT
He's such a caricature of abuse victims. Trying to capitalize on Mental Health Day. With a sweaty photo of him in the gym. Hashtagging CSA organizations and mental health day. He could not be more fake.
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Post by Liberian Girl on Oct 11, 2019 7:11:20 GMT
No wonder Louis Theroux is using terms like "romance with boys" when you consider he's been using pro-paedophile books as reference. He's probably brainwashed himself, the kind of ridiculous sources he uses!
After everything with Theroux, I find it hard to like him or support his shows now. A while back, I still had some respect for him, I used to absolutely love his documentaries, but I don't think I can watch him like I used to. If he can make such awful conclusions on the MJ case, when the truth is available for any one with a brain to see, then how can we trust his other investigation skills for his shows?
This all plays back to the Jimmy Saville saga...seems to have messed Louis Theroux's confidence up that he actually used to like (and was associated with) Jimmy. He seems so desperate to show the world he hates what happened that he'll literally crucify anyone if it makes him look good. Let's face it, he probably enjoys the support from the #MeToo cult too.
No, I can't support him now. He's proven unreliable, he's proven the truth doesn't matter to him. He just wants to pander to the media and please MJs critics. F**** him.
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Post by SoCav on Oct 11, 2019 9:18:56 GMT
This all plays back to the Jimmy Saville saga...seems to have messed Louis Theroux's confidence up that he actually used to like (and was associated with) Jimmy. He seems so desperate to show the world he hates what happened that he'll literally crucify anyone if it makes him look good. Let's face it, he probably enjoys the support from the #MeToo cult too. No, I can't support him now. He's proven unreliable, he's proven the truth doesn't matter to him. He just wants to pander to the media and please MJs critics. F**** him. I'm sure that may have made things worse, but his description of what turned into his Louis, Martin and Michael special, is of course about events that occurred way before the Saville revelations came crashing down on him. Of course he may recall and describe some of those events now from his present-day perspective, but it's nevertheless very revealing. For example, it's clear that he already entered that project at the time with a massive bias against MJ, based on preposterous research. Reading Gutierrez's book and taking it as gospel is lazy and absurd. It's obvious that he did not stumble upon Terry George either, he was clearly looking to confirm his beliefs about MJ. Right after the paragraph that was screenshotted above, he writes: "Firmly of the view that Jackson had predatory sexual interests, I hoped one of the boys – some of whom were now men – might agree to talk to us."I also used to like Theroux quite a bit, and I still think many of his documentaries are good, particularly when it's about people that are not too controversial. He's clearly a talented filmmaker. At the same time, you notice fairly quickly that his nerdy, naive, disarming persona is just that, an act. That's why he employs it in particular when he interviews controversial people - it's just a tactic to get them to open up to him. It's already debatable whether that type of dishonesty is really all that ethical. But in addition to that, it turns out he's also a very lazy researcher, and extremely biased. An awful combination. I used to think that of the three candidates that were in the running to interview MJ in 2002, Theroux would still have been a better option than Bashir (with David Frost being by far the best). I thought that although he would have looked for controversy, at least he'd have been a bit fairer, and would have humanized MJ a bit more. But clearly, I was wrong - he would have been awful too. Uri Geller could not have been more right when he called Louis a 'snake' (though the pot/kettle irony is strong there, of course).
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Post by MattyJam on Oct 11, 2019 9:54:29 GMT
Louis is probably pressed that he missed out on two major MJ-related documentaries, to Martin Bashir and Dan Reed. He was desperate in MJs lifetime to meet him and interview him (chasing MJs van in London like some fan... can you get anymore desperate for a professional journalist?). And lets face it, it would've transformed Louis's career from regional to international, as it did Bashir. And now in death, Leaving Neverland is probably viewed by Louis as "the one that got away." He's entirely self-serving. He's thinking of how to advance his career, and he's failed to do it and been pipped to the post twice now. It's the only reason I can think of why Louis is so invested in MJ. Either that, or given his sinister choice of literature....
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Post by Cloudbuster on Oct 11, 2019 9:55:28 GMT
He's such a caricature of abuse victims. Trying to capitalize on Mental Health Day. With a sweaty photo of him in the gym. Hashtagging CSA organizations and mental health day. He could not be more fake. Has anyone asked him about the $24 million yet?
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Post by Russg on Oct 11, 2019 12:48:14 GMT
I'm going to be that guy. You're talking about the mother of Prince and Paris. Have some respect. Why? She ain't my mother! Not even MJ went there. I guess small, chunky women with half filled water balloons is quite a come down from Elvis's daughter! I don't blame MJ. I wouldn't suck on Debbie's saggy grandma titties if you paid me.
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Post by elusivemoonwalker on Oct 11, 2019 14:43:45 GMT
Louis is probably pressed that he missed out on two major MJ-related documentaries, to Martin Bashir and Dan Reed. He was desperate in MJs lifetime to meet him and interview him (chasing MJs van in London like some fan... can you get anymore desperate for a professional journalist?). And lets face it, it would've transformed Louis's career from regional to international, as it did Bashir. And now in death, Leaving Neverland is probably viewed by Louis as "the one that got away." He's entirely self-serving. He's thinking of how to advance his career, and he's failed to do it and been pipped to the post twice now. It's the only reason I can think of why Louis is so invested in MJ. Either that, or given his sinister choice of literature.... So true.hes been desperate for mj to bump up his career. They way hes acting now shows how desperate he is. Agree re the way he acted in london in june 2002. He was prob pissed his docu got totally over shadowed by bashir as it aired not long before. Goerge was easy to find hes a media whore who is desperate to become anything more than a z list local celeb. Throwing stones eh!? Nothing would surprise me. Glad ive always thought hes was an annoying pr!@#. tacky low end journo who did tacky docus where hes about as sincere as (you fill in the blanks) low end compaired to his bro and father
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Post by Russg on Oct 11, 2019 20:21:02 GMT
So I've been going back and fourth with a hater on another message board I visit, and he's said something which I don't know how to reply to and would appreciate some help.
I'm not really familiar with court transcripts, which this guy is using against MJ in his argument. I don't want to reply and look uneducated.
Here's what he said:
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Post by jaywonder on Oct 11, 2019 20:26:12 GMT
So I've been going back and fourth with a hater on another message board I visit, and he's said something which I don't know how to reply to and would appreciate some help. I'm not really familiar with court transcripts, which this guy is using against MJ in his argument. I don't want to reply and look uneducated. Here's what he said: Yeah I just saw your back and forth on prince. org and responded to them as well. It reminded me why I only go on there once or twice every few months and why I grew to really hate that site for awhile
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Post by respect77 on Oct 11, 2019 20:29:13 GMT
So I've been going back and fourth with a hater on another message board I visit, and he's said something which I don't know how to reply to and would appreciate some help. I'm not really familiar with court transcripts, which this guy is using against MJ in his argument. I don't want to reply and look uneducated. Here's what he said:
It's clearly an MJFacts hater. I think it is a waste of time to go back and forth with such people (especially when you are not familiar with court documents).
"Michael slept 30 nights in a row with Jordan Chandler in the boy's bed. Besides that month, the two shared a bedroom on dozens of nights."
Not true. The 30 nights was an altogether estimate by June. When asked what was the longest in a row, she answered one or two weeks. The 30 nights was never in a row, and most of it happened before they even claim the abuse started. He can go on about Brett Barnes all he wants but Barnes said nothing ever happened and if that is true that shows that MJ spending time with children in his room was not sexual. A lot of what he is rambling on about is just conjecture.
From June's 2005 testimony:
Question: And do you recall on how many occasions Mr. Jackson spent the night at your residence?
June Chandler: I would say more than 30 times.
Question: And were some of those occasions on consecutive days or nights?
June Chandler: Yes.
Question: And how long consecutively do you think that that occurred?
June Chandler: Oh. It could be a week or two at a time.
According to Jordan's allegations, his alleged abuse started in a Monaco hotel room when they went to an award ceremony with Jackson. But according to June's testimony, after Monaco Jackson only spent about a week or two in her home. Apparently the rest of the 30 days fell before the Monaco trip, ie. before Jordan's alleged abuse started.
Question: After you got back from Monaco, did Michael Jackson spend nights at your home?
June Chandler: Yes.
Question: Were the 30 nights you’ve described after you got back from Monaco?
June Chandler: No.
Question: How many nights after you got back from Monaco do you think Michael Jackson stayed at your home?
June Chandler: Oh, perhaps a week or two.
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