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Post by Russg on Oct 11, 2019 20:33:23 GMT
So I've been going back and fourth with a hater on another message board I visit, and he's said something which I don't know how to reply to and would appreciate some help. I'm not really familiar with court transcripts, which this guy is using against MJ in his argument. I don't want to reply and look uneducated. Here's what he said:
It's clearly an MJFacts hater. I think it is a waste of time to go back and forth with such people (especially when you are not familiar with court documents).
"Michael slept 30 nights in a row with Jordan Chandler in the boy's bed. Besides that month, the two shared a bedroom on dozens of nights."
Not true. The 30 nights was an altogether estimate by June. When asked what was the longest in a row, she answered one or two weeks. The 30 nights was never in a row, and most of it happened before they even claim the abuse started. He can go on about Brett Barnes all he wants but Barnes said nothing ever happened and if that is true that shows that MJ spending time with children in his room was not sexual. A lot of what he is rambling on about is just conjecture.
From June's 2005 testimony:
Question: And do you recall on how many occasions Mr. Jackson spent the night at your residence?
June Chandler: I would say more than 30 times.
Question: And were some of those occasions on consecutive days or nights?
June Chandler: Yes.
Question: And how long consecutively do you think that that occurred?
June Chandler: Oh. It could be a week or two at a time.
According to Jordan's allegations, his alleged abuse started in a Monaco hotel room when they went to an award ceremony with Jackson. But according to June's testimony, after Monaco Jackson only spent about a week or two in her home. Apparently the rest of the 30 days fell before the Monaco trip, ie. before Jordan's alleged abuse started.
Question: After you got back from Monaco, did Michael Jackson spend nights at your home?
June Chandler: Yes.
Question: Were the 30 nights you’ve described after you got back from Monaco?
June Chandler: No.
Question: How many nights after you got back from Monaco do you think Michael Jackson stayed at your home?
June Chandler: Oh, perhaps a week or two.
Brilliant stuff. Thankyou. This is very telling: "It was said to be male DNA, which are determined by chromosomes. DNA can be saliva, hair, not just semen. Interesting how the prosecution didn't bother to introduce it. Guess it wasn't that damning." Isn't it amazing how falsehoods can be spread over the internet as if it's fact when it's complete manipulation?
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Post by respect77 on Oct 11, 2019 20:38:17 GMT
And the fact he rounds up the number of accusers to 7 is another giveaway it is an MJfacts hater. It means he includes Jacobshagen and Terry George which shows his lack of critical thinking (or deliberate manipulation): themichaeljacksonallegations.com/2019/07/01/michael-jacobshagen-and-terry-george/ As well as him going on about boys who never accused MJ (Omer, Emmanuel, Jonathan Spence, Brett etc.). That's desperate stuff to boost the number with guys who never claimed to be victims. And him using those pics to prove guilt. LMAO. Here is Emmanuel responding to MJ haters using that photo of him and Mike to manipulate the narrative: I see he only signed up to Prince.org in July too.
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Post by pg13 on Oct 11, 2019 22:26:46 GMT
So I've been going back and fourth with a hater on another message board I visit, and he's said something which I don't know how to reply to and would appreciate some help. I'm not really familiar with court transcripts, which this guy is using against MJ in his argument. I don't want to reply and look uneducated. Here's what he said: Yeah I just saw your back and forth on prince. org and responded to them as well. It reminded me why I only go on there once or twice every few months and why I grew to really hate that site for awhile Does he remind you of Guybrush?
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Post by jaywonder on Oct 11, 2019 23:05:31 GMT
Yeah I just saw your back and forth on prince. org and responded to them as well. It reminded me why I only go on there once or twice every few months and why I grew to really hate that site for awhile Does he remind you of Guybrush? Not just him but several others The people who are incredibly invested in MJ's supposed guilt all have a certain manner when they're engaged in a conversation. How they engage with you, how they twist and distort information. How they rely on certain photos then try to say fans are blind and star struck....yet they say Michael Jackson fans are crazy
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Post by MichaelD on Oct 12, 2019 0:41:24 GMT
Yup, I gotta agree with you guys - not that I'm aware of what's been written on prince org, though -, Guybrush and Dani(leevan) are very equal whilst differnt in their approach. While Guy tries to be up front, Dani sneaks in pretending to be a major (Bad era) craving fan.
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Post by pg13 on Oct 12, 2019 1:08:53 GMT
Yup, I gotta agree with you guys - not that I'm aware of what's been written on prince org, though -, Guybrush and Dani(leevan) are very equal whilst differnt in their approach. While Guy tries to be up front, Dani sneaks in pretending to be a major (Bad era) craving fan. And both ran away like wimps once I got going in dealing with them! 🤣 Guybrush tried playing the victim as a "hurt researcher" whereas Dani literally disappears once she sees you discrediting one of her buddies.
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Post by Vega on Oct 12, 2019 1:50:23 GMT
Yeah I wouldn't waste your time dealing with a dude who joined a Prince forum solely to talk about Michael Jackson.
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Post by elusivemoonwalker on Oct 12, 2019 8:22:21 GMT
Didnt he mention daniel kapon 😂
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Post by jaywonder on Oct 12, 2019 23:05:25 GMT
Yeah I wouldn't waste your time dealing with a dude who joined a Prince forum solely to talk about Michael Jackson. Yeah I went through their previous posts....they're odd Stuff like that is why that site is the shits and has been for several years.
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Post by jaywonder on Oct 12, 2019 23:12:37 GMT
Yup, I gotta agree with you guys - not that I'm aware of what's been written on prince org, though -, Guybrush and Dani(leevan) are very equal whilst differnt in their approach. While Guy tries to be up front, Dani sneaks in pretending to be a major (Bad era) craving fan. And both ran away like wimps once I got going in dealing with them! 🤣 Guybrush tried playing the victim as a "hurt researcher" whereas Dani literally disappears once she sees you discrediting one of her buddies. Remember how any time any of us would calmly shut her bullshit down, she'd accuse of us of having "seething hatred" for her LMAO
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2019 0:02:45 GMT
And both ran away like wimps once I got going in dealing with them! 🤣 Guybrush tried playing the victim as a "hurt researcher" whereas Dani literally disappears once she sees you discrediting one of her buddies. Remember how any time any of us would calmly shut her bullshit down, she'd accuse of us of having "seething hatred" for her LMAO Fascinated by these usernames 😂
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Post by respect77 on Oct 14, 2019 6:04:05 GMT
So as expected the new bill has been passed. It looks like Wade and James will be able to refile their case.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2019 6:15:42 GMT
So as expected the new bill has been passed. It looks like Wade and James will be able to refile their case. Which version will they refile? They can now go with their LN version of events, because that's the new narrative. Aside from James and Wade, I have no problem with this law at all. Just a shame that there will be a number of people that will be able to somehow abuse this.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2019 6:18:11 GMT
So as expected the new bill has been passed. It looks like Wade and James will be able to refile their case. Surely no matter what they file, there's enough evidence documented that their contradictions outweigh the facts?
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Post by elusivemoonwalker on Oct 14, 2019 8:10:56 GMT
Refile against who though? They will still have the same problem interms of sueing mjj prod etc. Or can they sue the estate? Is there any real didference other than they can try again? Or was it thrown out the last time cause it was outside of the limitations. Ive long forgotten. might all be over in another ten years then!!
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