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Post by pg13 on Jan 30, 2019 15:52:34 GMT
Jane Doe? LOL. But probably just made it up. This guy is as much of a liar as Wade and James are. Like he perpetuates the lie that Wade and James haven't talked to each other and had no way of aligning their stories. Yet, Wade himself admitted in his deposition that they have talked. Do you have a link to where Reed says they hadn't spoken to each other and one where Wade said they did? Very useful info to share around.
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Post by russtcb on Jan 30, 2019 16:01:27 GMT
That was such a nice read. Thank you for sharing!
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Post by respect77 on Jan 30, 2019 16:03:16 GMT
Jane Doe? LOL. But probably just made it up. This guy is as much of a liar as Wade and James are. Like he perpetuates the lie that Wade and James haven't talked to each other and had no way of aligning their stories. Yet, Wade himself admitted in his deposition that they have talked. Do you have a link to where Reed says they hadn't spoken to each other and one where Wade said they did? Very useful info to share around.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 16:23:08 GMT
I know he said they'd never met before
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Post by elusivemoonwalker on Jan 30, 2019 16:39:01 GMT
They had the same lawyer for years. They went fishing for safechuck after robson stated this crap yeah of course they never talked. Fecking idiot.
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Post by pg13 on Jan 30, 2019 16:52:55 GMT
Do you have a link to where Reed says they hadn't spoken to each other and one where Wade said they did? Very useful info to share around. Thanks for that! Putting it with this from Dan Reed's Rolling Stone interview: Of course, no one has to physically meet in order to get any story straight.
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Post by respect77 on Jan 30, 2019 16:55:55 GMT
I know he said they'd never met before Yes, Reed claimed that.
And the media is eating it all up and think it is the big evidence that it is true. It is madness, absolute madness! This is from the reporter in the HuffPost interview.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 17:00:49 GMT
They had the same lawyer for years. They went fishing for safechuck after robson stated this crap yeah of course they never talked. Fecking idiot. Bonus points for "fecking"
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Post by respect77 on Jan 30, 2019 17:32:44 GMT
Especially this part is great:
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Post by MattyJam on Jan 30, 2019 18:33:51 GMT
Who's to say this documentary will defame his legacy? The media have been attempting to do this for nearly three decades now. They didn't manage it then and they won't manage it now.
Fortunately for Michael, his fans are too large in numbers and too knowledgeable about the cases to be easily swayed by fraudsters and self-appointed victims like Wade and James. This is a very inconvenient flaw in the plan of the media to bury MJ once and for all. The fans know more than the media, we are the silenced majority, trying to educate people, and what do the media have? Regurgitated tabloid myths from ex-employees looking for a payday and supposed victims who attempted to get a billion dollar settlement from his estate and have continuously changed their stories and been caught out in their lies.
I think people are more savvy than we give them credit for, and in this era of "fake news", I think people are more distrusting than ever of the media.
A colleague of mine bought up MJ to me today and I was squirming thinking that I was about to have to go on the defensive and have an awkward exchange. To my surprise, she said she'd watched a documentary about him a few nights ago (she couldn't remember the name of it) and she said she felt like it was obvious that his accusers were only after money and that he was an easy target because of how damaged he was from his childhood.
I was so shocked and it reminded me that it's not just "crazy MJ fans" who are capable of rational thought and not swallowing the medias warped agenda.
Who cares what tabloid hacks write about MJ or what social justice warriors who have no life of their own spew on Twitter? Are these people going to change the mind of millions of loyal MJ fans all over the world who still love his music and wholeheartedly believe in his innocence? Of course not. And THAT is why MJs legacy will never be in jeopardy.
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Post by Liberian Girl on Jan 30, 2019 19:00:41 GMT
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Post by respect77 on Jan 30, 2019 19:05:45 GMT
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Post by aazzaabb on Jan 30, 2019 19:09:43 GMT
Who's to say this documentary will defame his legacy? The media have been attempting to do this for nearly three decades now. They didn't manage it then and they won't manage it now. Fortunately for Michael, his fans are too large in numbers and too knowledgeable about the cases to be easily swayed by fraudsters and self-appointed victims like Wade and James. This is a very inconvenient flaw in the plan of the media to bury MJ once and for all. The fans know more than the media, we are the silenced majority, trying to educate people, and what do the media have? Regurgitated tabloid myths from ex-employees looking for a payday and supposed victims who attempted to get a billion dollar settlement from his estate and have continuously changed their stories and been caught out in their lies. I think people are more savvy than we give them credit for, and in this era of "fake news", I think people are more distrusting than ever of the media. A colleague of mine bought up MJ to me today and I was squirming thinking that I was about to have to go on the defensive and have an awkward exchange. To my surprise, she said she'd watched a documentary about him a few nights ago (she couldn't remember the name of it) and she said she felt like it was obvious that his accusers were only after money and that he was an easy target because of how damaged he was from his childhood. I was so shocked and it reminded me that it's not just "crazy MJ fans" who are capable of rational thought and not swallowing the medias warped agenda. Who cares what tabloid hacks write about MJ or what social justice warriors who have no life of their own spew on Twitter? Are these people going to change the mind of millions of loyal MJ fans all over the world who still love his music and wholeheartedly believe in his innocence? Of course not. And THAT is why MJs legacy will never be in jeopardy. We live to fight another day! This has somewhat uplifted me because I watched the GMTV MJ take-down pieces this morning and was furious! I've been working all day feeling disheartened and low. I felt for Jermaine this morning. I mean I really felt for him. None of the Jackson family have ever been great public speaker's and not very confident individuals. It's so easy to make it look as though their in some sort of denial. I wish MJ's estate would end this. How can issuing statements be enough anymore? They have the wealth and the power and the means to do something colossal. How long now before more "victims" come forward. How can they sit back and do nothing?
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Post by aazzaabb on Jan 30, 2019 19:22:03 GMT
I've been preparing my defence argument in my head all day for an inevitable MJ face-off with a college or random stranger and have caught myself mouthing to myself in silence more than a few times. If anyone saw me I would look like some nut job.😂
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Post by Cloudbuster on Jan 30, 2019 19:27:34 GMT
Who's to say this documentary will defame his legacy? The media have been attempting to do this for nearly three decades now. They didn't manage it then and they won't manage it now. Fortunately for Michael, his fans are too large in numbers and too knowledgeable about the cases to be easily swayed by fraudsters and self-appointed victims like Wade and James. This is a very inconvenient flaw in the plan of the media to bury MJ once and for all. The fans know more than the media, we are the silenced majority, trying to educate people, and what do the media have? Regurgitated tabloid myths from ex-employees looking for a payday and supposed victims who attempted to get a billion dollar settlement from his estate and have continuously changed their stories and been caught out in their lies. I think people are more savvy than we give them credit for, and in this era of "fake news", I think people are more distrusting than ever of the media. A colleague of mine bought up MJ to me today and I was squirming thinking that I was about to have to go on the defensive and have an awkward exchange. To my surprise, she said she'd watched a documentary about him a few nights ago (she couldn't remember the name of it) and she said she felt like it was obvious that his accusers were only after money and that he was an easy target because of how damaged he was from his childhood. I was so shocked and it reminded me that it's not just "crazy MJ fans" who are capable of rational thought and not swallowing the medias warped agenda. Who cares what tabloid hacks write about MJ or what social justice warriors who have no life of their own spew on Twitter? Are these people going to change the mind of millions of loyal MJ fans all over the world who still love his music and wholeheartedly believe in his innocence? Of course not. And THAT is why MJs legacy will never be in jeopardy. The concerted effort to destroy Michael appears to have properly started with the success of Thriller. A black man - the world's biggest star. The knives were then drawn. "Boy" should have known his place. I'm reminded of this quote by James Baldwin: “The Michael Jackson cacophony is fascinating in that it is not about Jackson at all. I hope he has the good sense to know it and the good fortune to snatch his life out of the jaws of a carnivorous success. He will not swiftly be forgiven for having turned so many tables, for he damn sure grabbed the brass ring, and the man who broke the bank at Monte Carlo has nothing on Michael. All that noise is about America, as the dishonest custodian of black life and wealth; the blacks, especially males, in America; and the burning, buried American guilt; and sex and sexual roles and sexual panic; money, success and despair…” To this day the general consensus among "serious" music critics remains that MJ was a two-album wonder, his post-Thriller work undervalued and dismissed. Curious, isn't it, that his most political, daring and interesting work is continuously cast aside. Again from Baldwin: “Freaks are called freaks and are treated as they are treated–in the main, abominably–because they are human beings who cause to echo, deep within us, our most profound terrors and desires.” The accusations of child molestation were a godsend to his numerous detractors. They now had a seemingly valid excuse to tear him apart. Still, no one will ever convince me that there isn't a racial element to the ongoing destruction of Michael Jackson. It's. Fucking. Obvious.
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